Why “the Carolina Way” is now a punch line (nightly update day 71).

Let’s get right to it. We have a lot of ground to cover.

The fallout from yesterday’s NCAA suspensions began with Kendric Burney’s dad giving some great quotes that really raise questions about institutional control.  You should read this article in full.

I think this passage from that piece damages UNC-CH more than any other I have read since the scandals broke:

Tyrone Burney said his son told him the trips were to have fun, not to meet with potential agents. He said his son knew about the Memorial Day trip to Miami which cost Alabama’s Marcel Dareus two games, and was attended by UNC’s Marvin Austin and Greg Little, but knew there would be agents there.

“That’s exactly the type of thing he was trying to avoid,” Burney said. “That’s the reason he did not go on the Miami trip because he heard what was going on there.”

Here we learn two very important things.  First, that there actually was a Memorial Day trip/agent party.  I had never seen it actually nailed down.  Remember Marvin’s tweets from that weekend about “Club Liv” and “getting  bottles like its a giveaway”?  He actually was in Miami.  So, that means Marvin and Greg Little were partying in South Beach on three different trips from March through May of this year!  Doesn’t that remind you of your own undergraduate experience?

Next, that quote from Mr. Burney tells us something amazing!  Kendric Burney knew beforehand that the Memorial Day weekend trip/agent party UNC-CH players attended was happening — while Butch did not???!!! How in the world is it possible for such a thing to be known by UNC-CH players such as Kendric, but not be known by Butch, the other coaches, the UNC compliance office, etc, etc.?  I can’t decide if it is more damning for UNC-CH/Butch to have known and not stopped it or for them to be ignorant about such a monumental problem going on within the program.  How off the rails was it over there?

More things we can now put together:

* We know that Marvin invited the Alabama player Dareus to go on this trip and even paid for his way to Miami and for the hotel.
* We know that Marvin did not pay for his own trip (because he said that Vontae Davis did — which Vontae has denied).
* Now we know that someone in/around the UNC football program talked in enough detail about the Miami trip that other UNC players were afraid to go — yet the coaches and compliance office supposedly had no idea about it.

* We know that the NCAA classifies Chris Hawkins as an agent — how will they classify Marvin?

* If Marvin is classified as an agent or runner (highly probable in my opinion — what else could he be?), how will that impact UNC’s penalities?  I can’t imagine that having an active agent/runner actually on your roster on scholarship (with the players knowing about it — but not the coaches) has even happened before in NCAA history.

Obviously there is a lot more to say, but the “cheating prong” also needs attention.  Today Thorpe and Baddour went on a “cheating prong” publicity tour.  Every time I hear that Baddour is going to be on the radio I am 100% sure that I will have great material to write about.  Today on the radio Baddour apparently said that someone “recommended” Hawkins.  Really?  The same Hawkins who was thrown out of the program and was arrested on cocaine trafficking charges?  That must have been one hell of a recommendation to overcome those strikes.  Who was in charge of the background check?

Anyway I am getting off topic.  Today we learned that UNC fired the tutor in the summer of 2009 and some other neat stuff in this News and Observer article:

The undergraduate tutor linked to North Carolina’s investigation of possible academic misconduct in the football program did not have her contract renewed in the summer of 2009 because “there was too much of a friendship between her and the players,’’ UNC Chancellor Holden Thorp told the university Board of Trustees this morning.
So she was fired in the summer of 2009 due to misconduct, yet there was no investigation whatsoever into possible academic misdeeds?  Apparently not.  I can hear your next questions — you are thinking “But I thought UNC self-reported the cheating scandal.  Wouldn’t they have done this self-reporting last summer when they fired the tutor and had to suspect something?”  Well, no.  Actually, UNC quote-unquote “self-reported” when the academic cheating was discovered during NCAA questioning during the agent investigation.  How did an NCAA agent discover the entire cheating prong during questioning about something totally unrelated — when UNC-CH didn’t discover anything when they fired her for misconduct?  And how does UNC now claim credit for “self-reporting” with a straight face?
 
Maybe the athletic director can shed some light on things.  Let’s see.  In the exact same article, Baddour says:

“They are to interact in the academic support center — working on time management, note taking, study skills. We’re not looking to establish any other kind of relationship [between the tutor and athletes],” Baddour said.

“ … When you’re using undergraduates to tutor and mentor, it’s important that things be done in the right context. I really can’t point to anything to say anyone thought it [the relationship between the tutor and players] was improper, you just have to work to be certain the relationships stay as a tutor and a student.”

Did he really just say “I really can’t point to anything to say anyone thought it [the relationship between the tutor and players] was improper”?  That directly contradicts what Thorpe said — that she was fired because of the “too much of a friendship” thing.  Which is it?  Also, if UNC’s  story on the tutor is going to be that she was fired because she had a quote-unquote “romantic” relationship with the player(s), which seems to be what they are hinting at, then that type of relationship must be prohibited.  OK, if it is prohibited, why so?  Obviously because that type of relationship could lead to academic cheating.  Yet they fired her for a “relationship violation” and did not investigate whether there was any academic misconduct — the exact problem the relationship rule is designed to stop?

That’s all I am going to cover tonight.  I had lots of other stuff to get to but it can wait.

General UNC Scandal

18 Responses to Why “the Carolina Way” is now a punch line (nightly update day 71).

  1. McCallum 09/23/2010 at 10:53 PM #

    Wake me up when they start killing the first born male child.

    McCallum

  2. old13 09/23/2010 at 10:55 PM #

    BTW The tutor worked for Butchie’s family for TWO YEARS! Check it out (end of the article):

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5609055

  3. VaWolf82 09/23/2010 at 10:56 PM #

    Everytime I read or hear anything from someone at UNC, I’m reminded of the guy that grabbed the closest bucket of liquid to put out a fire…and the liquid turned out to be gasoline.

  4. Daily Update 09/23/2010 at 11:19 PM #

    old13: Great point. I think they even said she was close to the Davis family. Then Butch says today that all of a sudden he heard she was no longer a tutor, he figured she must have graduated, and then never thought about it again. What were the circumstances of her all of a sudden not working for the Davis family? Did she just stop showing up for work? Did they fire her? Mutually part ways?

    How can Butch claim to not know anything about what happened to her after she stopped working for him and UNC?

  5. old13 09/23/2010 at 11:19 PM #

    ^ It IS difficult to keep all those stories straight when there are so many people trying to tell the same lies, isn’t it!

  6. packalum44 09/23/2010 at 11:39 PM #

    TJ indicates she may have been having improper relations with Butch. I thought once you got a taste of Marvin’s cupcake, you’d never go back…

  7. ppack3 09/23/2010 at 11:41 PM #

    Maybe it’s a ‘minor’ detail, but if they ‘let her go’ in June, 2009, wouldn’T that put the time frame for all of these papers and cheating…pre-June 2009? Meaning these papers, or whatever was done/orchestrated was actually taking place during the 2008/2009 season, or earlier? It seems to me that these dates put a longer term spin on the longevity of the scandal.

    Also very interesting about the dismissal of the tutor without any University questioning. Do you think that Williams and Burney’s aggresive suspension lengths, which Baddour, Butch and Thorpe are outraged at, are relatively harsh because of the way this is being handled by ‘The Ewe?’ He’ll, the NCAA has probably learned more about this case through Facebook, Twitter, Internet reporting/sites and in the media than they have from the actual University. Let’s not forget about all of the interviews being done by Thorpe, Baddour and Butch, and all of the foibles that come from their misinformation and slips of the toungue.

  8. LKNpackfan 09/23/2010 at 11:43 PM #

    I thought we’d already heard, weeks ago, that the tutor in question was both Butch’s nanny and Greg Little’s girlfriend? Its speculation at this point, but the dots seem to be connecting themselves.

  9. tjfoose1 09/24/2010 at 12:01 AM #

    “TJ indicates she may have been having improper relations with Butch. I thought once you got a taste of Marvin’s cupcake, you’d never go back…”.

    No no no… I didn’t do that. Though I can’t say I have never heard such a scenario.

    As the saying goes, Hell hath no fury…

  10. tjfoose1 09/24/2010 at 12:03 AM #

    “…wouldn’t that put the time frame for all of these papers and cheating…pre-June 2009?”

    Or perhaps she was continuing the tutoring, just getting her paycheck from a different employer?

  11. MrPlywood 09/24/2010 at 1:05 AM #

    Talk about lack of institutional control – they can’t even organize a good lie. And I love the euphemism “too much of a friendship”. They have a journalism school over there, I think they can look up some appropriate adjectives to describe the real nature of the relationship(s).

  12. MrPlywood 09/24/2010 at 6:01 AM #

    from the ESPN article: “They strongly believe it should be tutor-to-student and it shouldn’t blend over to anything else. It wasn’t anything specific. It was just in their eyes, it had started to develop into more of a student relationship.”

    LMAO @ “it was just in their eyes”… good lord… They’re just making this stuff up as they go along.

  13. Plz2BStateFan 09/24/2010 at 8:23 AM #

    Dear god,

    Please let me do these images for these articles.

    Sincerely,
    Plz2BStateFan

  14. burnbarn 09/24/2010 at 8:24 AM #

    So CMFBD says they are now putting in systems to make sure nothing like this ever happens again…. shouldn’t a coach getting $2MM a year have already had that in place?
    IS UNCCheat paying a coach $2MM for just coaching on the field? I think they could get a better deal.

  15. tapinpar 09/24/2010 at 10:17 AM #

    It tells me a lot about the Burney family when daddy Tyrone says he would have “put his foot down with Kendric” had he known Hawkins was considered an agent-runner but apparently he had no problem with the fact that he had been charged with felony cocaine trafficking and misdemeanor marijuana possession… “Drug-trafficking, sure, take a few trips with the guy… wait a minute, agent, I’m putting my foot down!”

  16. coach13 09/24/2010 at 11:56 AM #

    “Stop…just stop.” That is what someone needs to be telling the UNC Brass.

    I tell you now, if the NCAA does not bury this group, I would take that as an official “it does pay to cheat” statement. Who, other than moronic UNC fans, would beleive these folks had no idea all these things are going on, and that they were/are not trying to cover it up???

  17. Prowling Woofie 09/24/2010 at 12:43 PM #

    ^ Exactly, Coach13 –

    These guys need new shovels – they’re wearing the old ones down to nubs !

  18. Wufpacker 09/25/2010 at 4:23 AM #

    First Thorp is quoted as saying she was fired because…”there was too much of a friendship between her and the players.”

    Then he says…”I really can’t point to anything to say anyone thought it [the relationship between the tutor and players] was improper.”

    Maybe GAWolf would be a good one to answer this, but in light of this backpeddling quote does this tutor now have a potential case for wrongful termination?

    Nevermind. Just went back and looked. I originally missed the part about “did not have her contract renewed.”

    Dang. Thought that might be a good way for more dirt to get uncovered.

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