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I’ve been holding off on doing a season retrospective / looking ahead post … I should just chop the ‘looking ahead’ part. The current state of high level college basketball generally means high roster turnover.
‘Consistency’ was going to be a major focus of the entry. Erm, oh well.
Delete it then. Because I don’t like gott doesn’t make me some troll. That’s stupid. I don’t care for his representation of ncsu or his lifestyle.
You’re free to dislike anyone who represents State and give your reasons. That said, I’m not going to cull through an IC thread for any potential nuggets about the lifestyle of a State coach. Like I said, the original post of the IC thread merely showed two photos of someone resting at an airport. I fail to see how these photos merit a call to action on a University representative.
If you have anything to back up your assertions as it pertains to these photos then let’s hear it. Otherwise, this is negative spin about someone for the sake of it with zero context or facts given.
Photos of someone resting/waiting at an airport … along with everyone else in the picture. I fail to see how this says anything at all about lifestyle or anything, really. What are you implying, OP?
This is beyond silly. As it stands, this thread is at best juvenile, middle school level paranoia and rumor mongering.
Start spitting out sourced facts for your assertions or I’m putting this IC trash where it belongs.
I just am seeing that Kyle is leaving, too. Damn. I really hate to lose him, but best of luck to him.
I think he’s got a lot of potential for the future. Plus, he seems like a great ‘team’ and ‘glue’ guy.
Lacey seems like a good dude and always comes across as really likable (to me). Good luck to him. I hope he finds a lot of success.
He did fine, to me. They did well playing him and Mark May off of each other on College GameDay Final. Of course, Reece Davis will no longer be there to stir that drink, so they may have been looking to go in a whole new direction as the shtick would be different.
The Notre Dame stuff got old, and like ncsu1987 I value knowledge and objectivity over any sort of ‘tv’ gimmick. They probably should have just let him talk about the games rather than attempting to play up his personality.
^I knew the Pack was ahead late, but wasn’t able to see/hear the final couple of innings. Glad they were able to salvage 1 of 3.
Agree Beej, we have two head coaches in the money programs that are not only great fits for their respective programs but they’re great fits for the University and fan base(s).
There’s plenty of negatives and/or criticisms that could be said about or used against Gottfried from his past and perhaps time here, but he has embraced all the challenges of being the NC State head basketball coach in its current state (post Lowe + Sendek; media narrative run amok, among many other things). I don’t mean to get too ‘sunshine squad-y’, but Gottfried has faced those challenges head on and embraced everything about being the State coach. He deserves a ton of credit and respect in this area, imo. Plus two Sweet 16’s in four seasons ain’t too bad, either.
Doeren may be short on experience, but I think he has already shown himself to be easy to relate with for a lot of State fans. I know it’s catering to the fans when he speaks publicly about it, but I believe his high work ethic, no BS persona is genuine. I’d say the collective State fan base knows BS when it’s said or displayed rather well; plenty of experience having it shoved down our throats from many different angles. Doeren doesn’t seem to abide it – cool. Season two showed that the program could have some real potential for the future.
As for the high school busts…the data would say that’s a bit overstated.
From 95 until they stopped in 2005, 23 High School players were taken using one of the first 20 picks in a draft. Of those, 9 have made NBA All-Star teams and All-NBA teams.
And for those taken in the lottery (top 13 IIRC), 8 All-NBA players and nearly all the rest have played at least 500 NBA games.
^Thanks for the data. I have no problem being corrected!
Still, my overriding point was that the quality of play in the NBA suffered pretty heavily within the timeframe of your given data. This is an entirely subjective view though, admittedly.
“My hope is that with the change of leadership we will look at a more centralized group of officials,” Gavitt said. “There are now fewer numbers of coordinators at the conference level with agreements between conferences. The officials are independent coordinators. But we’re hoping that we can come together on this. It would take all the parties to come together.”
OMFG Hallelujah
There’s a chance Cat Barber turns pro
Really? I think that would be shocking.
Has anyone else heard a thing about this? At all?
If not, why report it? If the author has some info – why not source it? No standards at all when it comes to media. Infuriating. “I pull things out of my ass and it’s news!”.
Let’s hope with a little less arrogance, a lot more competence, and a helluva lot more humility, next year has far better results.
^All of my yes. This where I think the “neighborhood” can be a positive in the mental edge / psychological department. For anyone out there pumping the players’ respective heads full of BS, all they need reminding of is how they’re looked at right here at home – 3rd, if not 4th, best. If that’s not motivation to put in the work and keep a level head then I don’t know what is.
And he’s a dead ringer for that little psycho king from Game of Thrones.
Loooooooooooooool. Just die his hair sandy blonde and yeppers. I could have a lot of fun with this, but will hold off b/c spoilers.
The staff and players certainly earned that recognition. Good job.
^Yes, they certainly did. Very worthy of that final ranking.
Ryan’s comments come across as a bit unfair to other programs, but whatevs.
At a minimum, I’d like to see the ‘one year out’ rule removed. It’s an awful rule that is awful for most parties, and I really don’t see how much benefit NBA clubs are getting from it. One year is one year, it’s not going to show you that much – there’s always risks. It’s also damn near criminal to disallow a worthy candidate because of some psuedo age restriction.
The Lebrons and Kobes are extreme rare exceptions. I’m glad to see that some NBA brass have been awakening to the fact that potential and athleticism are not guarantees of success/skills and return on investment. Really, they didn’t have much choice but to awaken to this fact … after the game nose dived in popularity in the late 90’s and early 2000’s they had no choice but to stop stocking their rosters based on ‘potential’ alone and to pin all their hopes on the next 17-year old wunderkind (good job, good effort Espn – you tried). I’ve never understood the logic of being in a game of skill and merit, yet basing all of your GM decisions based on potential and hype … but whatever.
There’s a reason the Spurs win a lot – they have highly skilled players who execute their plans as a team. It’s not freaking rocket science, it’s basketball. The Spurs are very European-centric, and I’d posit that their success with European style skill sets and execution is an example of how far American-centric basketball has fallen. Please don’t read that wrong – that’s not an assault on the NBA or it’s players – it is, currently, a highly skilled game played by the best players in the world. I’m saying that the Spurs’ successes against their peers show how far behind the times the US game has become. Now teams – like the Hawks – are emulating the Spurs both in style and in roster make up. I’m getting off track, but this is worthy of a more in-depth look imo.
The above is why I feel like a baseball type rule for the NBA and NCAA would be good even for the NBA. The word is out and people are learning that the overwhelming majority of these kids need time to mature and develop as people, mature and develop their games, and to be frank – to unlearn the “teaching and instruction” from AAU opportunists. A lot of these kids have to be taught the most basic of skills and fundamentals when they reach college/university. A damn shame. It was even more of a shame when every NBA team was on the hunt for the next Kobe and drafting busts over and over … it truly cost the league big time. The league just is now getting back their watch-ability and interest with the casual fan.
Congrats to Duke, but I’m truly saying this impartially – I don’t feel good about this 2nd half. Do you?
Too much reffing going on.
Winslow and Okafor go out with foul trouble and Wisy up 9 with about 13 minutes left … By the 10 minute mark Duke was in the double bonus.
Wisconsin has fallen into the “Duke is getting all the calls” trap over the last 10 minutes. They’re reacting to every call. Must be nice to be Duke.
Haha, Jones using the Reddick kick out to try to get the foul. Eff them and their schmacting, I can’t stand it.
Should be technical foul. It would be if I was in stripes. So would all flops be technicals if I was blowing the whistle. I would be public enemy #1 for K, no doubt about it.
I’d be pretty high on Bennett’s hit list, too. Play effing basketball, not acting, not WWE Wrestling.
