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Channeling my inner Stephen A Smith
I hope that somebody puts me out of my misery if they ever catch me doing this.
I thought that the results of the game were embarrassing, but not unexpected.
I hoped many things, but I didn’t expect any of them.
This about sums up my expectations for NC State athletics. Consider this sentence stolen.
Despite the shared pessimism, that was a really good preview. Good Job!
In summary, the defense is as bad as many expected. The good news is that the offense is much better than my worst case scenario.
We should fire coach Doeren…
Why don’t we let the straw man rest in peace.
Guys like Glenn get paid to troll you.
Gregg Doyel (cbssports.com) is another graduate from the Howard Stern school of journalism. Doyell learned to troll State fans while he was in NC (Charlotte Observer?). I avoid/ignore both of these idiots.
Without the graduates of the Keanu School of Acting, the Wolfpack eins the game. No doubt, no question.
You can’t possibly be serious.
but perhaps our OCC schedule isn’t as bad as perceived. Or maybe it is… I’m not really sure how this stat is calculated.
I’m willing to bet that it is every bit as bad as most think. Let’s look at Sagarin’s rankings for another clue:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/2014/conference/
SOS National Ranking #178.
SOS ranked 13th out of the 14 teams in the ACC.But it’s important to note that SOS means little in college football as a whole and absolutely nothing to NC State.
Turnovers Lost: 3 (3, 18)
Turnover Margin: 0.75 (3, 34)Punting
Wil Baumann: 11 punts, 50.2 avg, long of 67That’s good stuff right there.
To answer the original question…not really. But that doesn’t mean that the opposite isn’t true. In other words, if you are not in a bowl most years, then recruiting will suffer.
You can only sell sunshine for so long. Eventually a coach has to deliver results.
I don’t understand what everyone was thinking about this whole College Gameday thing.
You need to change “thinking” into something that doesn’t imply rational and/or logical input before typing. Because those posts dreaming of college game day in Raleigh lacked both.
first four games have more value
I need to back track the conversation and catch-up, but I see little predictive value in the first four games. In fact, there may be little value in the FSU game as far as projecting how State will do the rest of the year.
From 1.21JW
the object of the cupcakes is to bring them along, find the mistakes and fix them if possible.
…And to supply four of six wins needed for a bowl game. (Which DY already mentioned.)
I also predict our Defense will be exposed everywhere on the field as weak up front and slow in the back.
Defense is clearly a huge concern heading into the conference schedule. Being weak up front will expose even a good secondary.
I can’t wait to read the trolling, negative comments that get posted…
As opposed to inane utterings from the delusionally optimistic?
Personally I would prefer that the:
– delusionally optimistic at least acknowledge that there is a difference between realistic and trolling.
– The conversation stayed at least marginally connected to the real world.Schedule Strength
Past Opposition: 1-2 .333 (8, 85)
Future Opposition: 8-5 .615 (12, 45)
Cumulative Opposition: 9-7 .563 (13, 50)I didn’t know that SOS was easily found anywhere other than from Sagarin. Interesting. I especially like the break down between past, future, and cumulative opponents.
SOS should show whether or not there is any value in directly comparing stats with a future opponent. PS – it’s amazing how much delivering a smack down in game #3 can improve your national defensive rankings.
However, you don’t need any other numbers to tell that State’s offense will need to be in high gear by the time GT comes to town.
Rushing Defense: 170.7 (12, 78)I’m with 1.21JW…I don’t think that Sat’s game yields much predictive power for the rest of the year. Still hoping for 6 wins and the Pinstripe Bowl.
Cavs won the first half 10-7. Shoving match after the final whistle was a tie.
Anyone know who is carrying the wvu/md game?
A law enforcement official says he sent a video of Ray Rice punching his then-fiancee to an NFL executive three months ago,
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ap-newsbreak-source-says-rice-205240907–nfl.html
Now that old age…
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Since I’m ~decade older than you, I’m pretty sure I’ve just been insulted.-back to the actual topic-
In the end, the bottom line profits/losses will determine the fate of big-time college athletics and which schools can afford to play. Several semi-random thoughts:The dirty little details that have yet to be worked out about stipends for athletes will go a long way towards determining who can afford a seat at the big-guys table. How much per month? How many sports? etc
If the Title IX hammer is used to force a stipend for all college athletes, then CD’s prediction about non-revenue sports will happen sooner rather than later for most schools.
If the stands are full for a game vs the Sisters of the Poor pickup team, then you’re probably not charging enough for the tickets.
As long as the revenues balance the expenses, then little will change.
What matters is not butts in seats, it’s ticket sales. Note that State has had to resort to selling mini-packs the last several years after selling out the stadium through season tickets for a good while during the Amato/early TOB years. How far will the interest drop? At what point does the TV money no longer offset the loss in ticket sales?
Since I use sarcasm frequently, I’m generally pretty good at detecting it when someone else uses it. Obviously it’s time to change the batteries in that detector.
But based on who State has played, I still contend that bad rankings are very predictive.
Stats are fun.. here are two that have been puzzling:
After beating Gardner-Webb in our third game of 2009, we had at that point the # 1 defense in the country. We went 3-6 after that.
We had similarly high defensive rankings early last season. We saw how that turned out.
I’m not sure why you think that those are puzzling. As I’ve said many times, good production against weak competition is meaningless in its predictive value. On the other hand, bad stats against weak competition is pretty much always an indication that things are going to get ugly.
WV, where do you get your stats from? It looks like the NCAA has redone their stats for this year and severely screwed up the usefulness in the process.
National Rankings
Scoring Defense: 87
Total Defense: 102
Rushing Defense: 104
Passing Defense: 88These miserable stats will only get worse as State plays better teams. As BJD has said since day 1, enjoy the wins because there aren’t going to be many.
I don’t have any technical reasons, but I don’t think it really matters. Unlike Obama and his supporters, you can only blame the previous administration for so long. But regardless of this year’s results, DD will probably get four or five years to win. If he does that, then he will have the option to stay. If not, then I’m reasonably confident he will be gone.
(Don’t turn this thread into a political debate. The free shot at BJD was just too good to pass up.)
