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From the NCAA’s bylaws:
10.1 Unethical Conduct.
Unethical conduct by a prospective or enrolled student-athlete or a current or former institutional staff member, which includes any individual who performs work for the institution or the athletics department even if he or she does not receive compensation for such work, may include, but is not limited to, the following: (Revised: 1/10/90, 1/16/10, 1/9/96, 2/22/01, 8/4/05, 4/27/06, 1/8/07, 5/9/07, 10/23/07, 5/6/08, 10/5/10)
(b) Knowing involvement in arranging for fraudulent academic credit or false transcripts for a prospective or an enrolled student-athlete;
As I said earlier, it doesn’t matter if you can prove that Roy knew or not. Why the Carolina faithful think that having regular students involved in the cheating helps their situation is beyond me.
UNC-CH is clearly not going to self-impose.
There’s absolutely no reason to self-impose anything. If the NCAA doesn’t like your self-punishment, then it will add more. If it approves of your self-flagellation, then you probably went too far (like State with Valvano).
I think that UNC made a huge mistake in withholding Prof “Roo’s pay. Their action proves that Roo’s actions did not meet UNC’s own academic requirements. Thus athletes that benefited from the paper classes should lose credit for those classes…and games played with ineligible athletes must be forfeited.
If you’re already nauseated over the media, then you better avoid Dick Vitale’s inane mutterings this winter. (Is that like saying, “Don’t spit into the wind” or “Don’t eat yellow snow”?)
UNIVERSITY EMPLOYEES developed a system to keep unqualified and unmotivated athletes eligible to play. To my view, it doesn’t matter whether you can prove the coaches knew or not…the punishment should be the same.
There wasn’t a lot of new stuff in the report (from what I can gather). But it seems to be getting a lot more press.
From BobLee
Dan[Kane]’s question – “What did Roy know and when did he conveniently forget he knew it?” was an Ahhhhah moment for sure.
The fact that the basketball players were moved away from AFAM shows that the problem and its severity were well known. Roy (and all of the other coaches) “didn’t know” in the same way that tobacco executives “didn’t know” that smoking was bad for your health.
That man [Herb] has more to do with NC State’s current second class position in basketball than anyone directly related to the basketball program. He Fowler, Turner, the administration above them, and all the fluffers that propped him up have collectively blown us off the map.
I think that Herb did the best job that he knew how to do. So I don’t blame him for anything.
The issues during the Les-era were self-imposed. The fact that Herb was kept after having a losing record in year 5(?) was also self-imposed. So our position as “inconsequential” in college basketball is strictly a function of incompetent management of the university and athletic department for two decades.
I’d be a little embarrassed to think that winning was the only measurement of upgrade.
There are a lot of different ways to get fired, but only one way to keep a head coaching job…win. That measuring stick won’t be brought out this year or next. But it will be brought out eventually and it’s doubtful that DD will get as long a leash as Duke gave Cutcliff.
5 part series starting here.
Financing College Sports – Part One (Major update & additions 10:30am)
As bad as this defense is, the one PR’s senior year was even worse. Think about that for a minute.
Thanks to WV, we can even look at a little trend:
After FSU:
Scoring Offense: 40.4 (2, 24)
Total Offense: 505.6 (1, 20)After Clemson:
Scoring Offense: 33.7 (6, 51)
Total Offense: 447.3 (4, 44)After BC:
Scoring Offense: 30.9 (9, 61)
Total Offense: 414.1 (8, 64)Hopefully, the offense bottoms out after the Lousville game.
I pulled Department of Education reporting information…
One of the most interesting websites that I ever ran across. I did a multi-part series several summers ago comparing the financial info from the (old) ACC. If memory serves, that series mostly got lost amongst the Marvin Austin Tweets and cupcakes.
an excellent recruiter who has an attacking defensive mentality.
I don’t remember much attacking during PR’s senior year. Big change from that year to the next, when Chuck brought in Herring.
/nitpickBut in the bigger picture, I agree that you need an attacking defense. Whether or not you can successfully attack with our current personnel is a completely different issue.
Nice Work.
No one does less with more than Miami.
The same thing could have been said for FSU for a good long while starting towards the end of Bowden’s tenure. The single biggest issue with FSU during that time period was the QB play. You can have a world of talent overall, but a substandard QB definitely puts a ceiling on your success.
– For all the schematic complaints, it’s not about the X’s and O’s but the Jimmies and Joes. Many positions including our LBs and RBs looked completely outmatched yesterday.
I agree. But the beauty of college sports is that it doesn’t matter if we’re right or not because the head coach is responsible for BOTH. Obviously DD came into a bad situation and deserves some time to right the ship. But ultimately a coach will be judged on his W/L record (as long as Lee Fowler isn’t the AD).
Are you still chasing that “average offense” story that you were so wrong about?
If I erred, it wasn’t because I was too harsh. After being shut out in 7 of the last 8 quarters, I’m not sure State’s offense is even good enough to be called average.
JB and company had the opportunity to prove me wrong. They failed to do so on Sat.
BC should not have been able to shut down our offense like that. Very troubling. Hope we don’t lose all confidence after a rough trip to Petrino-ville.
So much for having an above average offense.
I’m not even going to get into the branding of the red block “S” that 95% of the country thinks is for Stanford.
My MIL bought me some gloves with a Block S one year at Christmas. She evidently didn’t notice the Christmas Tree along with the “S”.
I also say that threatening to delete posts that conflict with your point of view, doesn’t fit my pictures of you.
Once again, not what I said.
Go ahead, let’s hear the “yes, but’s” if you have to make State worse than it is.
The next time you accuse me of twisting the facts, you better have proof or the entire post will be deleted. You conveniently left out the sentence where I said that “average” MIGHT be a little harsh.
Anyone that has been here any amount of time should know that I strive for accuracy and try to have support for any conclusions that I reach. Corrections are always welcome since I have never claimed to be perfect.
We are above average in offense according to the numbers.
Oh BS!
To most people, “average” would cover a range of values around the mathematical mean. An above average offense doesn’t get shut out by a team with two losses.
I based my comment of “average offense” on the fact that State’s offensive stats are generally at or above the midpoint in the conference and national rankings. “Average” may have been a little harsh…but I haven’t gotten over the Clemson game yet.
While some have been fighting the obvious conclusions for the last month, the numbers are settling down and confirming what I thought during the preseason games….State has an average offense and a bad defense. (Note that without greatly improved QB play, State would end up with virtually the exact same results as last year.)
To win, State has to hold onto the ball and hopefully win in a track-meet style game. The defense is so poor, that it is not likely that State can overcome a rash of turnovers in any one game.
There are many posts on the coaching staff and their abilities. In other words, is a good staff trying to overcome a talent deficit or is a mediocre staff just flailing around. In the end, it doesn’t matter which view is correct.
It is not enough just to maximize the results with poor talent. The coaches job is to win…with improving talent being the obvious first step. In the end, you are what your record says you are and that’s the proper way to judge a coaching staff at the 4-5 year point (excluding extenuating circumstances).
