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If memory serves, State had a total of 10 games against teams that were ranked #1 sometime during the 82/83 season….and won six of them:
UNC: 2-1
UVA: 2-2
L’ville: 0-1
UNLV: 1-0
Houston: 1-0The 1983 team was not a Cinderella under any meaningful definition of the term. The 1983 team was a very good, experienced team that lost their leading scorer for 10 games…and then got him back to play some truly impressive basketball (while getting lucky when a number of opponents choked at the free-throw line).
Nice work and outstanding explanations of the various esoteric terms.
I really like the approach of developing an objective measuring stick and then using it to measure State’s performance. I did that a number of different ways during the Herb era…and boy did the HSSS squeal when State consistently came up short. (Though none of my analyses were anywhere near as complicated).
This is one of the many reasons why I never understood WHY there were low pre-season expectations, unless one had a poor opinion of MG as a coach.
Not necessarily “poor”…just that I didn’t expect the coaching to take a big step forward because there is a ton of past performance on which to base my expectations. State is actually ahead of my worst-case expectations.
Turner took unrushed shots.
The Martins behaved themselves.My keys.
Jigs…I turned 61 yesterday. WTF happened to you, that has turned you in to such a crochety old f#ck?
I love engineers. I love pigs.
If I get down in the mud and argue with either of them…pigs and engineers…I always come to the conclusion that Engineers like it.
Just remember this. It ain’t negative if it’s the truth.
CD goes 4 for 4. That’s a good day by any standard.
Though I might have to add “handled the press” to the keys of the game.
I also agree that if Gott can keep this group in Raleigh…
I just don’t even make the effort to make those kind of projections. Someone always leaves early, it’s just a matter of who and how many.
State needs at least one of UVA, @L’ville, @UNC. Tonight’s game is no more important than the other two.
I put the game @UNC to be the least likely with UVA in Raleigh and L’ville away in a tie for unlikeliness.
My mom used to get the CO because she thought she would get more news about the college games. When she figured out that they really only covered UNC, she cancelled her subscription.
So with that background, you can understand why I thought the text in the hyperlink was the actual title of the CO article. Turns out to be not as bad as I expected.
Now that joke I get.
I wonder if anyone has asked Kennel about Herb and the Seeds of Greatness recently.
Haven’t watched the evening news in years. Jokes lose their punch when they have to be explained….sorry about that.
I usually stop at the point where you have to admit that “you are what your record says you are”. I’ve never really tried to pull the stats apart to see exactly why your record is what it is.
1.21JW has done this from time to time with tempo-based stats that try and eliminate one key variable (pace) that changes from one opponent to the next. Another confounding effect is that the stats accumulated against Sisters of the Poor pickup squads don’t really answer the key questions.
I suspect that if you pulled apart the stats a little further, you would find that in the losses, State is stymied on offense by a better defense and is unable to return the favor. If you pull up the RPI trend graphs from my mid-season review, you would see that the top 5 teams have either been steady or risen throughout the course of the season….ie the cream rises to the top. The next five teams on the bubble have been up and down throughout the season as they have good games, bad games, and mostly get beaten by the teams at the top…ie the very definition of a bubble team.
But it is totally his [Gott’s] program, and he’s responsible for where his program is,
Ultimately, everything good or bad comes to rest on the head coach’s desk.
This team should be top 25.
As far as I can tell, there is absolutely no evidence to support this. As Bill Parcells said, you are what your record says you are.
Next season is absolutely vital, whether this one turns around a bit or not. This season’s ending has no bearing on how much I need to see in 2015-16. It needs to be special, or I’m worried.
Over the years, you’ve mentioned many times about wanting a special season at least once ever 4-5 years. I want that too, but I’m not sure that’s a part of DY’s (or the large, large majority of other AD’s) evaluation process.
What do I expect:
– poor defense
– poor rebounding
– poor decision making way too often
– poor free throw shooting
– bad lossesLast year’s team had exactly one impressive win (over Syracuse in the ACCT). Hopefully, this year’s version can reach .500 in conference and add a second impressive win before Selection Sunday.
I don’t see how SYR impacts any team making the NCAAT. On another thread, someone reported that there were only going to be two games on Tues. So that is something anyway.
Just thinking through that as I’m typing.
Two play-ins on Tuesday would leave 12 teams in the ACCT.
Bottom 8 remaining play on Wed and that would leave 8 teams by the end of the day.
Top 4 still get a two-round bye and play Wed winners on ThursLooks good to me.
It will be interesting to see what they do with the ACCT since SYR is not going to play.
My guess:
Bottom six still play on Tues
Teams 6 – 8 play Tues winners
Top 5 get two round byeIf you waited until the Pack was done 20 to start whining, then you’re a better fan than I. I had to listen on the TuneIn app and gave up before the lead got that big.
I don’t really care to know anything about recruiting, but am always interested in the final product. So I really appreciate all of the work you put in to preparing these quick hitters to let us know about the kids coming into the FB program.
About the large number of threads…The original thought (as I understand it) was to put up an entry when Twitter let us know that the LOI was received. As I see it, there are two other ways to do it….Put everything up early and hope that all of the verbals hold….or put one entry up late after the LOIs are received. Personally, I don’t care which way it’s done, but the whiners need to decide if they want info early or late. 😉
We can all agree that losing on Wed is very bad. But winning on Wednesday simply does not improve your resume. All you’ve accomplished is to not make it look any worse.
A loss on Thursday would mean that you need all/most of the other bubble teams to also lose AND then hope that your miserable resume is the best amongst a bad bunch. Sounds like pretty long odds to me.
9-9 and a win on Thursday would probably be good enough for an ACC bubble team. Goodness knows that it’s worked for State a number of times.
I had a graph ready for you wufpup, but I actually forgot about. The darn entry was so long, I wouldn’t have put it in even if I had remembered it.
http://www.statefansnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/2_2_Conference-RPI.jpg
Your prediction seems to wandering far from reality. 😉
