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I’m curious, Va: what do you consider “significant”? My version includes regular season mythical championship, tournament championship, plus any NCAA advancement beyond sweet 16 (his current ceiling, it seems).
Sorry for the late response. I was out of town for a long weekend and despise typing on my phone.
This would be an interesting discussion over a large, adult beverage…but for today’s purposes, I’ll go with the simple definition as something worthy of hanging a banner over. Here’s my list in decreasing order:
National Championship (quit laughing)
Final Four (you’re still laughing)
Regular Season Title
ACCT Title30 years ago, I would have had the ACC titles reversed. But in the days of a 68-field NCAAT, the ACCT is just another weekend of basketball that is forgotten almost as soon as its over.
I don’t care about transfers.
Me either. I care about winning something significant.
Transfers-out work against that goal. Transfers-in help move towards that goal. Early-exits hurt. Good recruiting helps, missed opportunities hurt. State has something in most of those categories every year…so focusing on one aspect to the exclusion of the others adds nothing meaningful to the conversation.
So is Gott building something in Raleigh? The answer today is probably not. But at least his scrambling has moved State out of the bottom of the conference (most years) and may do so again next year.
especially with graduate transfers who are immediately eligible at their new schools.
“Especially”? Really?
I would like to know the percentage of transfers that are the graduate transfers. I would expect that they are a timy percentage of the total transfer population. They have already spent at least 3 and usually 4 years at that school and play one year at a second. How does that earn an “especially”?
The worst in my mind is the kid that plays one year and then bolts. And then we have the really special kids that transfer twice with the second time usually to Div2 so that they don’t have to sit out a year.
Better is good but is this much better good enough?
Deserves to be repeated.
Yeah…but are you fun at parties?
Completely sidetacking a whipped, dead horse of a thread…..
What part of “engineer” was confusing?
This is a wonderful engineer’s answer.
That’s because I’m a wonderful engineer!
Whatever, only a fool wanted Lowe around.
Yea and we had several around here. But even then, there was no need to pull against State because it was already obvious that Sid couldn’t win and it was only a matter of time.
Didn’t Atsur have to sit out a handful of games at the start of his freshman year because of his club basketball team?
I’ll be glad when he passes the NCAA clearing house.
When you have as many scholarships available as State currently has; and when the program is in such a weird and risky transitional period; I say you take mature, experienced, two-year post players and don’t think twice about it.
State seems to meet the first two conditions almost every year. With high school players looking to leave as soon as possible, there is no real down side to recruiting JC players that you think can contribute immediately.
K has been quoted in the past as being against increasing the conference schedule. With Duke’s traditionally tough OOC schedule, it’s hard to understand why.
It would be interesting to hear Yow’s thoughts with respect to how an increased conference schedule would impact finances. Increasing the conference schedule might force State to give up one of their home games against teams that don’t require some sort of home/home arrangement. While the conference game would likely put more butts in the seats, it probably wouldn’t increase season ticket sales.
Increasing the conference schedule would also push more conference games into December. For most fans, this would be a good thing since it should produce more compelling match-ups than the standard Nov/Dec games.
I figured that out by accident a while ago.
I knew
Then you should have shared with those of us that are a little slower. 🙂
I’m not buying the improved RPI either. Two games out of a 30+ game schedule would make a difference, but it’s unlikely to be huge. What it would do in some instances is give bubble teams more shots at a Top 50 win…which might payoff for those like it did for Syracuse this year where their top wins overcame their RPI ranking of 72.
The counter to that, though, is that if the ACC adopted a 20-game league schedule, teams would likely be less willing to play more difficult games outside the conference.
We’re only talking about two games…changing from ~12 OOC games to ~10. Wny would teams that routinely have good OOC schedules change? Those teams with consistently weak OOC schedules would simply continue their current “strategy”. So I wouldn’t expect an increased ACC schedule to have much impact on OOC scheduling philosophies. The big thing is that more conference games should lessen the delta between the weakest and the hardest conference schedules.
Here’s forum news that new to me….I highlighted Wuf’s last sentence and hit quote. Only that sentence showed up in the reply box and it was correctly attributed. Who knew?
You people that like to poormouth Gott never give any specifics,
I’m sorry. I just assumed that people had actually watched some basketball last year, knew the condition of the team, and the last two years of recruiting. So for those that don’t have that knowledge….last year’s recruiting and performance sucked. This year’s recruiting results to date is not coming anywhere close to filling State’s many needs…which are growing as players bail from Gott’s sinking ship.
There is so much negativity in the discussion about the program…
“When my information changes, I alter my conclusions….”
While there is some doubt as to the original author/wording of the above quote, it’s one that accurately captures my feelings. My negativity is based on the available information and it will take a lot more than wild speculation to change it.
Lastly, for those who think UN* is ‘too-big-to-fail’ because they move the needle in terms of TV ratings … take a read of this link, and tell me if the NCAA will survive if the Blues play in the postseason or not.
For all intents/purposes, the NCAA doesn’t make a dime off of UNC. They get their money from the CBS contract over the NCAAT. As far as I know, that contract doesn’t include a clause that reduces the payment if UNC doesn’t play in March.
You are who your record says you are.
Bill ParcellsToo many transfers?
Too little development?
Poor recruiting decisions?
Poor defense?Trying to prioritize or arrange the reasons for State’s record are all akin to playing with deck chairs on the Titanic. Head coaches get paid obscene amounts of money to figure out the details. If Gott doesn’t get it done, then we’ll move on to another one (eventually).
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN
Hearing there’s a good chance that N.C. State’s Mark Gottfried will hire former Oklahoma State assistant Butch Pierre.
Georgia Tech targets Duke’s Jeff Capel, Celtics’ Jay Larranaga as next coach
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/georgia-tech-targets-dukes-jeff-090100351.html
The best outcome would be a strong rebound performance with an upper conference finish and quality NCAA tournament seed, all while signing some quality recruits.
The likelihood of this scenario happening are about the same as Gott being fired….close enough to zero that I’m not going to waste time trying to figure out which is more likely.
UVa’s last two losses looked eerily similar to me. Their offense shut down in the second half and they couldn’t get it going again.
They also seem to be developing a pattern in terms of regional finals flameouts (though that is really university-wide, dating back to Ralph Sampson days).
Isn’t Jeff Jones (the year after Sampson) the only coach to take UVA to a Final Four?
That Sampson/Raker/Lamp teams with an adequate PG in Jeff Jones should have accomplished more than they ever did. All the stars stayed four years and still couldn’t get it done in the post season.
Old man reminisces:
I sat in the corner of the end zone during Sampson’s freshman year when State won. Every time Sampson touched the ball, he was double-teamed. I don’t remember who their PF was, but State left him wide open all afternoon and he went O-fer from the field. Every time Sidney could get to Sampson, he would add a triple team when Sampson was holding onto the ball.We need to dig up 1.21JW’s analysis of the four factors of teams going to various levels in the NCAAT…which goes deeper than just offense vs defense. It seems like you needed to be elite in several of the four factors; but not necessarily all four.
On a more subjective note, it has always seemed to me that teams that rely on their defense to produce transition baskets, struggle when the other team holds onto the ball and shoots at a reasonable percentage.
