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No decision on ACC FB schedule yet. But they need to do decide by the end of the year.
The article references schools with outstanding P-5 opponents already scheduled (like Duke and Louisville) opposed to 9 conference games plus a random ND game here and there. This is BS, because those P-5 games can be moved to years when they don’t play ND (reference State’s home/home series with L’Ville that took a decade to finish). Get ND’s rotation nailed down for a decade or more, then work out your schedule. 9 ACC games, +ND/P-5 opponent and that leaves you with two potential cupcake games each year….WHICH IS ALL YOU’RE GOING TO BE LEFT WITH ANYWAY. 8+2 or 9+1 is going to only leave 2 FCS spots no matter which way they go.
The only logical reason for opposing 9 conference games are from those schools that already have an annual OOC rivalry game….GT-UGA, FSU-UF, Clemson-Usc (any others?). In the years these schools play ND, their schedule would be 9 ACC games, ND, SEC rivlary game, and only one chance for an FCS game. But the claim that the schedule would be too tough ignores the likelihood of having multiple cupcake games within the ACC schedule. With Clemson, FSU, and L’ville being near the tops in the conference, GT would have a little more room to bitch since more ACC games would give them more chances at those three teams. FSU/Clemson have much less reason to bitch (at least for now).
Side Issue….with the ESPN contract requiring P-5 opponents, the ACC schools need to get harsher wording into the contract with OOC opponents. A cancellation would be hard to fill on short notice.
hould we win at L’ville, I’d say we have a good chance to go 9-3. Lose at L’ville and we could be as bad as 6-6 and likely 7-5.
If we lose at ECU on 9/10, then this year will be one to forget.
According to the Daily Press, the ACC can either increase its [football] conference schedule from eight games to nine games per season, while continuing to schedule one Power Five nonconference game per season, or it could keep the conference schedule at eight games and schedule two Power Five nonconference games per season
Longer article that CBS quoted from:
http://www.dailypress.com/sports/teel-blog/dp-teel-time-acc-nine-vote-post.htmlWith commissioner John Swofford, ACC athletic directors will convene via conference call at 9 a.m. Friday to deliberate, and perhaps approve, one of two options provided by ESPN: expand the league schedule from eight to nine games, while continuing to play at least one outside Power Five opponent annually; or, remain at eight conference games and play at least two nonleague Power Fives each season.
The ADs could deadlock and/or delay their decision Friday, but status quo is about to vanish.
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I would prefer a 9th conference game. Playing some teams twice per decade just sucks.
If the ND rotation needs to be laid out far enough into the future that it can be used as the required P-5 OOC game..if the schools want to use it that way. I’m sure that at least some schools will want to limit the P-5 OOC games so that they can maximize the number of home games, ie $$$$$$.
Dennis Smith Jr. is ‘110 percent’ healthy:
Louisville preview of NC State
PS for BJD….no mention of kicking game.
I don’t think ACC members share merchandising revenues — Va, do you know for sure?
I don’t think that they share merchandising. A quick google search didn’t find anything “for sure”, but this little blurb seems to confirm our suspicions:
The ACC’s distributions to members do not include individual schools’ multi-media and licensing arrangements with firms such as IMG and Learfield Sports.
http://www.dailypress.com/sports/teel-blog/dp-teel-time-acc-revenue-1314-post.html
That article also includes something that I did not know:
Nor do the distributions listed on the tax return include money from a championship pool of approximately $8 million that the conference awards to schools based on their teams’ success.
Saw this article linked at PP.
With the huge difference between B10 and ACC payout, I just can’t see them joining the ACC for football. But I’m just looking at the financial end (what we know of the financial end) and I’m not sure how much that would impact ND’s decision. The latest report posted at the Equity in Athletics site shows ND’s athletic revenue exceeding expenses by $21M.
so I’m not sure from where the “panic” derives.
It’s the mirror image of boundless optimism. The State fan base has plenty of both at all times.
Sorry for the haphazard posting, but here’s some projections for PAC12, Big 10, and SEC TV revenue:
So if you’re scoring at home, we have these projections for TV-related revenue for 2017-18, on a per-school basis:
SEC: $35.6 million
Big Ten: $33 million
Pac-12: $22.95 millionThe article breaks down how they came up with those totals
The Pac-12’s financial future: Comparing TV revenue to the SEC and Big Ten
And the ACC falls in last place:
CBSSports.com’s Jon Solomon and the San Jose Mercury News’ Jon Wilner excel at gathering and assessing data from the power conferences, and according to their reporting on the other four, the ACC’s average $19.3 million distribution to full members in 2013-14 lagged far behind the Big Ten ($26.4 million) and slightly below the Pacific 12 ($21 million), SEC ($20.9 million) and Big 12 ($19.8 million).
The contrasts could be more jarring in 2014-15, and beyond.
http://www.dailypress.com/sports/teel-blog/dp-teel-time-acc-tax-return-1314-post.html
This last article also says that ND got $4.9M from the ACC in its first year. Based on those figures, it doesn’t look like the NBC contract is actually giving a win-fall to ND. $15M (NBC) + $5M (ACC) would tend to make you think that ND should have joined the B10 as a full member.
Talk about ND made me wonder about how much money do they get from the ACC. The answer appears to be not much:
The Irish will keep all the money it makes from its independent television deal with NBC while the ACC will keep all football-related money generated by its contract with ESPN/ABC. That comes to about 80 percent of the league’s total television revenue. As an equal partner in all other sports, Notre Dame will get the same split of the rest of the money as everyone else in the league – or 1/15th of 20 percent.
http://acc.blogs.starnewsonline.com/31880/answering-some-faqs-about-accs-addition-of-notre-dame/
I’m assuming that ND would keep the money from any bowl game as well.
(no less shaky than it’s been since Texas A&M, Colorado and Missouri left).
Also lost Nebraska (added WVU and TCU to get to 10 teams). ESPN basically saved the conference by agreeing to honor their agreed total contract value even though there were fewer teams. This upped every schools take-home pay and stabilized the conference.
It appears (from way outside) that they think that there schools are getting short-changed in the playoff hunt by not having a championship game. I’m not convinced that this is actually the case. But they didn’t ask my advice.
A 4×16 consolidation might happen, but it doesn’t appear likely to happen anytime soon. Even less likely than ND joining a conference: From 2013:
NBC Sports Group announced a 10-year contract extension to televise Notre Dame football games Thursday, doubling the length of its previous agreement.
NBC and Notre Dame said the extension would begin in 2016 and run through the 2025 season. The contract, reportedly worth $15 million annually for football, had never run for more than five years.
ND will NEVER join ACC football.
As long as NBC (or some other network) pays for ND football AND there are suckers willing to support the other sports, they would be stupid to join a conference.
It would be interesting to compare media contracts from the major conferences and see how ND’s total take (NBC+ACC) compares to those schools in conferences. If the payouts to the Big 10 schools ever matched ND’s total, then that would be ample reason for ND to join a conference.
And the two candidates this year are probably the worst I have ever seen.
Yep
A 20 game schedule will break down like this:
2 Defined rivalries (UNC/WF) x 2 games = 4 games
4 Home/Home matchups = 8 games
8 x 1 game only = 8 games.This totals to 14 opponents and 20 games. They could do away with the defined rivalries, but I doubt that they will.
I would expect that this would move 2 to 3 conference games from each team into Nov/Dec….hopefully Dec. It will be interesting to see if the ACC network has any noticeable impact on the quality of the OOC schedules (I’m looking at you, Clemson and VT).
gopack article
http://www.gopack.com/news/2016/7/21/general-acc-network-set-to-launch-in-2019.aspx
Beginning in August 2016, fans can access more than 600 exclusive live events from across the conference via a digital live-events channel ‘ACC Network Extra’, immediately available to users who have access to ESPN3 via WatchESPN and the ESPN app, with that number growing each year. More than 1,300 ACC events will be distributed across the platforms in 2019 when the linear network launches…
The linear network will feature 450 exclusive live events including 40 regular-season football games, more than 150 men’s and women’s basketball games, more than 200 other regular-season contests and tournament games from across the conference’s 27-sponsored sports, plus a complement of news and information shows and original programming. ESPN has been televising ACC content since 1979 and has exclusive rights to every conference-controlled football and men’s basketball game, plus women’s basketball and conference sports matchups, as well as all ACC championship events.
A poster on PP says that the BB schedule will increase to 20 games when the ACC Network forms.
I couldn’t confirm that with a 20 second google search.ACC commissioner John Swofford announced Thursday at the ACC Kickoff that the league will move from 18 to 20 conference men’s basketball games once the new ESPN-backed ACC Network launches in 2019.
The additional men’s basketball games will provide more high-profile program inventory for the new network, which is expected to broadcast 450 live events, including 40 football games, 100 men’s and women’s basketball games and 250 other live events in 2019.
I have no idea what kind of QB play to expect this year. No guess on record.
Ding ding ding
We have a winner.This thread applies to men’s basketball as well:
Fueled by the incredible support of Wolfpack Nation, the NC State men’s basketball team finished the 2015-16 season ranked eighth in average attendance by the NCAA, extending its streak in the top 25 to 17 consecutive seasons and earning its second highest ranking in program history.
http://www.gopack.com/news/2016/6/8/mens-basketball-nc-state-ranks-8th-in-basketball-attendance.aspx
At 2pm, I’ll be sitting in my office, fingers, toes, and anything else I can find will be crossed, listening to Tony…
I listened to Tony last night on the Tune-In radio app for those with a smart phone outside of Wolfpack Radio coverage.
I just saw this travesty:
A former varsity swim team member at Stanford University convicted of sexually assaulting an unconscious woman in January 2015 has been sentenced to six months in county jail, three years’ probation, and will be required to register as a sex offender,
Agreed. Post season tourneys are relatively meaningless for the power conferences anyways.
…Except for the bubble teams.
It will probably not happen because of the same reason the Big 4 preseason “tournament” died. No one wants to start the year with two losses. However, it would be a lot more entertaining than the ACC/B10 matchups.
I think we have 3 capable QB’s.
I eagerly await evidence that supports that conclusion.
Question:
Do you know the difference between an optimist and a pessimist?Answer:
ExperienceMatt Painter is against the graduate transfer rule. Honestly, he makes a point that is hard to refute:
Painter, who was on Thursday’s ESPNU College Basketball podcast, said players haven’t used the rule for its true intent — academically seeking a master’s degree at a new school.
“Eighty percent of these guys are doing it for basketball reasons, if not more,” Painter said.
“Are they going to get a master’s degree? Well, the NCAA’s paying for it for one year, and we all know most master’s degrees are two years,” Painter said.
I’m not sure what needs refuting. I didn’t see anything mentioned that justified changing the graduate transfer rules.
The players aren’t looking for a master’s degree. So what? If a kid without a degree can transfer, why not let one with a degree transfer. If a kid has worked hard enough to get a degree (even one that doesn’t provide marketable skills), why should he be held hostage to that institution?
are they gonna be worth two sh-ts next season?
I’m much more concerned about whether or not State will be worth two sh_ts next season.
