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Not only that, PackerInRussia, but in Gottfried’s FIRST YEAR, he won more NCAA Tournament games than HWSNBN won in 9 at ASU.
I don’t get it. The only people who have a problem with NC State fans are other NC State fans.
Ask the players. They love us.
Ask the opposing teams. They hate us.
WE RANK 2ND IN THE ACC AND 14TH NATIONALLY FOR TOTAL ATTENDANCE WITH A 96.3% CAPACITY RATING THAT’S ENOUGH FOR 3RD IN TEH ACC AND 33RD NATIONALLY.
I’m sorry, but it sure as hell doesn’t look like the fans are the problem.
Wow, SFN touched a nerve with you packman12, didn’t they.
Look, I was one of those. At home. 2 children. And a load of other things going on. This is what Wolfpack athletics are – really, any athletic program:
ENTERTAINMENT
When I stopped getting entertained, I go on to something else. Yep, turned off the game in the 2nd quarter myself to play with my kids. Sue me. Yep, turned on SEC football when the kids went down. Guess what? Both of those things gave me something that NC State did not: ENTERTAINMENT.
I spend a metric shit ton of money on LTRs to Carter Finley and have done so for many years. I put in my time in the student section, going to fundraising events, answering the call when they ask for more money, and answering the call to re-up after an 0-8 football season. ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED asked Russell Crowe in Gladiator?
Hell no I wasn’t entertained. Because we were better than that. You can call yourself a “better fan” for sticking it out to the end and props to you pal. Props. But for everyone else in this world who have spent good money chasing bad in Wolfpack Athletics, we look at this situation in a much different light.
It’s really a chicken and egg scenario. Does it take great fans to be a great team? Or does a great team get you great fans?
When the product on the field operates at the level that they did a week prior v. Florida State, you won’t find my butt leaving the seat. Even in a loss. I’ll sit to the bitter end WHEN THE PRODUCT ON THE FIELD WARRANTS IT.
Note that does not require WINNING. It requires EFFORT. It requires PASSION. It requires a character trait that isn’t ROLL OVER AND DIE. What I saw on Saturday were 11 deer in the headlights that could quite literally do nothing right. They’re still my boys, but I can also be honest.
How about this, lets give everybody ribbons because gosh darn it, they’re trying. When the ribbons cost a quarter, sure, let’s do it. When the ribbons cost MULTIPLE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS EVERY YEAR FOR THE REST OF MY GOD GIVEN LIFE, that equation becomes much more complicated.
Everyone has a budget. Entertainment is typically a line item in it. I have finite resources to spend on things that entertain me. It just so happens that this entertainment is comfortably cushioned inside of “supporting my beloved alma mater” at the same time. I can do that. I continue to do that.
But don’t sit there and call anyone else out for being a bad fan for turning off the TV on one of the worst performances we’ve had this season and recent memory. You made your choices. You sat there. I’ll get you one of those 25 cent ribbons. Everyone else has to make decisions too. For me, I chose the kids. Later that evening, I chose the Ole Miss game.
And DAMN, I was friggin entertained. And it cost me about $70 / mo for that one from the hijacking that DirectTV gets from me every month.
Rye,
Couldn’t disagree more. The premise of the article isn’t “we stink because we can’t rush the field”. It’s more we stink, so let us have fun. I’ve tailgated pre-restrictions and post restrictions. I’ve never been involved in any sort of violent activity whatsoever. I never even saw violent activity till that day in 03. Given, that was a horrific situation, but no one who had anything to do with NC State did that.
Your points fall a bit shallow in regards to CJ Leslie. The thing is, in those situations PEOPLE DO THE RIGHT THING. If it wasn’t CJ, it was someone else. And look what it got us, all the free publicity we could ever have from the “Roll Pack” situation. People setup up all the time.
I’ve not heard of a single accident taking place in Oxford.
Increased police presence? We’ve seen plenty of cops pretty much everywhere. They’ve been nothing but respectful to us and vice versa. There are jerks in every crowd and I see them getting carted away all the time.
Field rushing is a sign of inferiority. “We’re not supposed to be here and holy shit we did it”. Agreed. But until we’re Alabama, I’d love to revel in a victory instead of being tazed.
We know Yow reads regularly. We have faith she’ll also see this. She’s been a great AD for us. Hopefully, she’ll do the right thing here.
Great. THey took it between 1st / 2nd quarter. Right when my snuck in Firefly Sweet Tea Voka / Lemonade concoction had made its course through my urinary tract. I’m absent 🙁
SFN, come on. Me. Wuf is right. I can’t believe you guys would run an article about how bad the reffs jobbed us yesterday. I can’t believe you ran articles of similar nature to the losses to Virginia and Clemson. It comes off as petty and immature when you eon columns after every loss.
Wait what? That doesn’t happen? You mean SFN goes on tirades when the pack is legitimately robbed of a win?
How dare they… A travesty I tell you.
Let’s simmer down fellas.
But I do take the side of p(Rick)? here. One call doesn’t determine a game. One call with 14 seconds left most ASSUREDLY causes an outcome to become more likely. As I said when I wrote the article, had that been the call in the first half, it probably would have been forgotten. However, it was so pivotal in its nature that it is dishonest to shrug it off as “oh it was one call”.
God. Looking at this again and I’m still angry. I don’t know who you people are who say that was an appropriately called foul on the floor, but you must be blind. With the new continuation rules, that is clearly an and-one.
Nav… You do know that if Tyler had fouled Fair… it would’ve been a flagrant 1!
haha. I kid.
Kind of.
And tobacco, the suggestion that players and coaches could improve their play and execution doesn’t suggest that you need perfection in order to win and offset poor officiating.
Whiteshoes, what it does suggest is that if there was an error, then the media line will be “well they should’ve hit that free throw” regardless if we were 19/20 from the line. Or if we went and had 3 turnovers over the course of the game. If we get jobbed by the officials, the errors will undoubtedly be used as evidence that the Wolfpack lost and didn’t deserve to win.
Which is intellectually untrue and dishonest.
Chalking it up to “one call” does not do justice to the critical time in which it happened. This call in the first half would be forgotten. The call with 16 seconds left that would put us in pole position changed the dynamic of the game. And that cannot be ignored.
Answer this: should we have been expected to win when 2 if not 3 points were taken off the board in a Syracuse 1-point victory? That is the point.
Another tale-tale sign that this is not (at least an official) Wisconsin project… They used a photo of a badger and not Bucky the Badger. At least the trolls who did this were smart enough to not get slapped with copyright infringement although not smart enough to spell his name right.
Morons.
Oh, wow.
The refs had everything to do with that win. Very, very good game for the zeebs letting State play.
To not see that is…well…absurd.
Tell me you’re kidding, right? There was clear contact on the play. Either it was a block or a charge. That would’ve been a laughable no call. The fact of the matter is, the GT player used his forearm, extended his forearm, and shoved our guy to the floor. That is, by definition, an offensive foul.
This is all very sad. These past couple of days is when I stopped receiving joy from the demise at UNC. It’s heartbreaking. And UNC should be punished.
