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tjfoose1ParticipantBravo. Big fan of Ms Moon.
tjfoose1ParticipantI did my part.
Yesterday was the only pool play game I could attend. I was there. My efforts directly contributed to the win.
Cowboy up.
If the rest of you do your part, I’ll see you Sunday.
tjfoose1ParticipantNot the best of weather out here but the results are pretty good, thus far.
tjfoose1ParticipantFear the Canes. Miami has outscored opponents 170-21 while winning their last 12 games! #Boom http://t.co/IZ6SqC7TDP pic.twitter.com/l0TU0zlyYG
— NCAA Baseball (@NCAACWS) May 19, 2015
Or one could choose to look at it as they’ve already used up all their runs.
tjfoose1ParticipantFTW ….. “great pick up” or not, the kid needs to learn where he is going to college!!!!
My exact thought. As still a high school senior from the midwest, he can be forgiven, once. Somebody make sure he knows “University” comes at the end.
tjfoose1Participant12 freebies (8 walks and 4 beanies) sure don’t help.
tjfoose1ParticipantFact: Master doesn’t know facts from assumptions, presumptions, and opinions.
Fact: His below ‘facts’ are anything but, with several of them already proven wrong by simple history.Wilson was a graduate pursuing a baseball career (remove ‘career’)
Glennon needed to make a career decision to stay or go and it was based completely on Wilson’s plan to commit (obviously not since TOB made sure Wilson’s plan wound up having no bearing)
Wilson was under contract to a pro baseball team and wanted another opportunity to earn a chance to play in the Show. He was committed to his contract. (Obviously not since he paid back the money and went to Wisconsin)
Wilson would not commit to another year of football at NC State (except that he did)
TOB made the ONLY decision that would 100% insure a returning QB for the following season on the date the decision needed to be made (not true, for so many reasons)
wow. This site gets pretty dumbed down this time of year.
tjfoose1ParticipantBass,
As I said, I had respected your posts, and opinions, still do. Admittedly, I came off a little harsh, but I get sick and tired of people assuming they know a story and thereby help to perpetuate false assumptions, especially when it’s done with condescending overtones.
You blew it on this one. You’re basing opinions on what you’ve heard, what the media has reported, and your own suppositions to fill in the blanks. Today’s media is rarely trustworthy. They can get it wrong through bias, incompetence, laziness, or lack of resources. Not sure which it was in this case, but they only got a small piece of the story, and what they reported, they got a big piece of it wrong.
As he was headed to Asheville in 2011, RW told me directly (as he had before) that he’d be back for football. I was aware of TOB’s gentle nudging out the door, but neither of us expected he wouldn’t be permitted to return in the Fall. TOB being the Marine and man that I thought he was, I certainly expected TOB to honor the promise and commitment previously made to RW regarding his playing both sports. I was wrong.
There’s more to the story than is publicly known. Spring ball was a pretext. Mutually exclusive promises were made. Obstinance ruled the day.
But it was all RW’s doing from one perspective. He turned out to be a lot better than the staff that inherited him expected. He was only supposed to be a serviceable stopgap. That was the true genesis of the problem. Well, that combined with that obstinance.
And for those wondering, the baseball thing is not a ploy. No, he’s not considering passing on football, but he’s not giving up on baseball either. It is still his goal to earn his way and play in the major leagues, even if only briefly.
Believe what you will. This cat is different. Too many keep applying their own sensibilities when trying to figure him out.
tjfoose1ParticipantThe Seattle Boz was a 55. Not that it fits.
tjfoose1ParticipantI’ll probably get blasted for saying this BUT….”cry me a river Russell”. He just needs to shut up…he made his decision to play professional baseball and TOB did not owe him anything. I was at senior day, Wilson went thru ceremonies and basically did what he told TOB, he told everyone in Carter he was playing baseball. If Wilson really was honest, his paultry stats on the diamond was more the factor in his decision to come back. I don’t fault TOB with his decision to stick by Glennon. You can’t have your cake and eat it too….Wilson announced he was gone, went thru the motions, and then decided to come back and cries about being kicked off? If I decide to leave my wife for some young blonde because everyone told me its where I should be and better move then decide to come back to my wife like nothing happened only to find the locks have changed and she’s moved on…well…you wouldn’t hear me saying “I was kicked out”. Life is full of hard choices, Wilson made his that senior day. TOB did the right thing, Glennon was the only one who should not have had the rules changed and they were not.
Bass is clueless and making up his own ‘facts’. Had respected his posts previously, agree or not. When someone states something of which you have no knowledge, you have one opinion. We someone emphatically states something you know to not be truthful through direct, first hand knowledge, you have another.
How much and for how long has Bass been talking out of his ass?
As for moving on, I think everyone has. That’s not the issue. It’s the regurgitation by the self righteous. I’m not talking about the blowhards who pretend to know what happen. I’m talking about the blowhards who pretend to know what happen who take it as an opportunity to rip others with lies, distortions, and presumptions.
Pretty pathetic. Makes one look rather small.
tjfoose1Participanttjfoose1ParticipantI’m thinking there was reasoning behind the comment about VS. I’d be surprised if it was just a spontaneous utterance. There was a message included, one not intended for VS. Any message intended for VS was sent long ago. Wouldn’t be surprised if there was a problem with that reception, also. Thus the departure.
But I agree, from the outside looking in, appearances are it wasn’t necessary.
Good luck to VS though. Hope he does well.
tjfoose1ParticipantNo, not an elite program, but what Coach K can do. Coaching USA basketball was huge for his cred to those ‘rent-a-player’ types.
tjfoose1ParticipantI saw that horse move
tjfoose1ParticipantI think your statement has more to do with our coach’s lack of ability to produce with his talent than anything else.
While I think Bible and TOB deserve kudos for their role in developing Wilson, they sometimes couldn’t get out of their own way when it came to game planning with the talent in their QB (which isn’t unrelated to TOB eventually ‘releasing’ RW, the ‘my way’ thing…). VT is probably the best example, the game at CF when the Wolfpack jumped out to a huge lead (if only that end-around isn’t fumbled!) but RW threw a few picks to aid in VT’s comeback.
It drove me nuts during the game to see RW just loft long passes up for grabs. I was thinking, “wtf is he doing”. Hello?… score, clock, situation… Then in the post game, TOB revealed that was the game plan, and they stuck with it even after big lead. That is, the game plan called for RW to loft up the passes and rely on Stat’s big receivers to outjump the Tech DB’s.
Really? I good tactic to employ, but a game plan centered on it. “Brilliant”.
As an aside, I also acknowledge the irony that the challenges Bible/TOB had fitting RW into their system, and their system to RW, played a significant role in RW’s development and his success at Wisconsin and the NFL. In fact, without it, I don’t think RW goes to Wisconsin. And without that season as a Badger, where is RW today?
tjfoose1ParticipantI was growing to like the ‘Wislon’ reference, accidental flub or not.
tjfoose1ParticipantApologies for the redundancy, as I realize I’ve posted The same thing numerous times over the course of the post 3 years.
tjfoose1ParticipantAnd it was RW’s plan all along to return to NC State for his final football season. He answered as he did at the time, publicly anyway, because he didn’t want to air dirty laundry of the brewing ‘issue’.
And the ‘Glennon 2 for 1 argument’ is bullish!t, ridiculously silly. It was wrong tactically, even if it was done in a vacuum. Problem for TOB, it wasn’t done in a vacuum. Then entire team, program, and recruit population was witness.
tjfoose1ParticipantThe fundamental issue is that TOB changed the rules on Wilson.
TOB didn’t simply change the rules, he reneged on a promise. During his recruitment, RW was promised by NC State that he would be able to play both sports if he joined the Wolfpack. This was a MAJOR factor in his choosing NC State.
TOB agreed to honor that promise.
Though he never ruled out the possibility otherwise, playing both sports was never not his plan. The way he put it was that he was going to work hard and have faith in the Lord.
It was about TOB being TOB. Stubborn, and insisting on doing things his way, by his plan. And he was going to prove his way was right, dammit. In a way, RW was a nuisance that got in the way.
tjfoose1ParticipantBut, correct me if I have my timeline and factset incorrect:
Incorrect and incomplete. I’ve posted specifics several times, some simply choose to ignore or not believe.
Whatever, to each their own. But whatever the story you choose to believe, if you assume everything you read or hear in the media is the true story and the whole story, sorry, you’re a fool.
tjfoose1ParticipantWolfpack up 2-0 after top of 1st.
tjfoose1ParticipantWolfpack wins 4-2
tjfoose1ParticipantSack fly, followed by 2 consecutive walks, and a pop up.
Wolfpack 4-2 going to bottom up 14th.
tjfoose1ParticipantK followed by an intentional walk. Bases loaded, 1 out.
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