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If I was trying to start a heavy metal band, Deatherage might not be a bad name.
Team has been playing really well, but some very good teams coming up. Basically, almost the entire Top 25 is either ACC or SEC teams.
TroutParticipantAnyone see the end of regulation? I get that the basket didn’t count with shot clock violation, but the foul happened BEFORE the clock expired. Shouldn’t we have gone to line?
TroutParticipantComparing LSU to NC State:
Dancecard: 29; 26
RPI: 54; 40
BPI: 41; 37
SOS: 97; 6
1-25: 2-1; 3-6
26-50: 1-1; 1-2
51-100: 9-3; 6-2TroutParticipantTeams with best chance to make it to Final Four, according to ESPN BPI
Kentucky 81%, Wisconsin 46%, Gonzaga 43%, UVA 38%, Nova 36%, Arizona 36%, Duke 27%
TroutParticipantKiss of death, Jay Williams just said we would beat Nova
TroutParticipantI hate the NC Central didn’t win the tourney and get a NCAAT invite, but they could do some real damage in the NIT
TroutParticipantI love Iowa State. They are a real Final 4 threat.
TroutParticipantWell, in the NCAAT, good coaches shine. That is what worries me about L-Ville and Nova. (and UVA, although Bennett isn’t as tourney tested). And, to previous points, UVA needs to be worried about Izzo. He is a damn good tourney coach. Krueger, I don’t think so. He did get Florida to a Final 4, but he doesn’t scare me.
TroutParticipantNeither are disciplined enough to beat UVA. But of course, I’m assuming Justin Anderson will be healthy for UVa. If so, I stand by my prediction.
TroutParticipantOur path to the Final 4 would be LSU, Nova, L-Ville and UVA. Tough, very tough. Some damn good coaches after LSU.
I love NC State, but if I were betting, I’d take UVA out of that region. If I were a UVA fan, I would be very happy tonight.
TroutParticipantHalf of all the ACC teams in one region? Has that ever happened before?
TroutParticipantVery well done and an interesting analysis.
How much of the a factor is the “we had to play you, you had to play us” in this? For example, we got a 16 win factor by playing UVA. They got a 10 win factor by playing us.
TroutParticipantWhy the huge disparity between DanceCard and the Palm’s and Lunardi’s of the world?
TroutParticipantBubble is very weak this year. We get to 19 wins, we are in, I dont care how it happens. Top 5 SOS, .500 conference record, 3 Top 20 RPI wins.
TroutParticipantLose, Lose = Out, I could see happening. But I don’t think it is 100%. IMO we Lose, Win,Lose = In. One more win and we are IN. For Sure!
TroutParticipantAny additional wins, and we are in.
But let’s play NC State $H*T and say we lose to Syracuse and then lose Wed in ACCT. We would be 18-14. Still in?
For ACCT: we are either going to be 6th or 7th seed, most likely (not sure how all the tiebreakers work), could possibly be 8 or 9.
(8) vs. (9) — Noon, ESPN / ACC Network
(5) vs. (12) Boston College / (13) Georgia Tech winner — 2 p.m., ESPN / ACCN
(7) vs. (10) Florida State — 7 p.m., ESPN / ACC Network
(6) vs. (11) Wake Forest / (14) Virginia Tech winner — 9 p.m., ESPN / ACCNTroutParticipantTroutParticipantClemson scored 33 points in the first 36:30
28 in the last 3:30
TroutParticipantHuge win for three bubble reasons: 1)Worst we can finish is 18-14, and no team has ever been selected as an at-large with 15 losses. You didnt want to be in the position where someone asks “have we ever selected a team with 15 losses, and the answer come back as “no” 2)According to Palm, not since UGA in 2001 at 16-14 has a team been selected at-large without at least a 4 games over .500 overall record. 3)we are now 9-8 in the ACC, worst we can finish is 9-9. Some of the bubble teams will have losing conference records (Texas), we will not.
TroutParticipantLunardi now has us as a #10 Seed playing #7 Ohio State with winner getting Arizona in Portland.
Last Four Byes
Oregon
Indiana
NC State
TempleLast Four In
Cincinnati
Colorado State
Purdue
BYUFirst Four Out
Davidson
UCLA
Illinois
PittsburghTroutParticipanthttp://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/ncaa-tournament/history/atlarge
Looks like we did it in 2005 under Herb.
TroutParticipant^It happens when a conference is really strong.
Some 7-9 teams from the ACC of old have made it. V’s comment was always “7-7, go to heaven” (NCAAT), back when we played 14 ACC games.
TroutParticipantInteresting that Clemson’s Senior Day was Saturday against GT, not our game tomorrow night.
The ONLY saving grace for the BC loss is that it put us at a 10 right now. It could end up costing us a NCAA bid, which would obviously be bad, but IMO, a 10 is much better than a 9 or 8. With Gonzaga no longer a #1 seed option, and with Duke and UVA most likely being #1 seeds, with us at a 9 or 8 we would either get Kentucky or Villanova/Kansas in a possible 2nd round game. I’d take my chances with Nova, but I’d rather be a 10 seed and stay away from that.
The other side is that BC loss prevented us from getting a 7 (unless we make the ACCT finals). But honestly, 7/10, not much difference.
Indiana (7) vs NC State (10) seems a popular matchup right now.
I agree with SFN, go 1-1 and I think we are probably in. A L @Clemson isn’t a bad loss (like BC), but would mean it all comes down to the Syracuse game. A W at Clemson is a road win against a Top 100 RPI team.
TroutParticipantWell done. You wont find a better mid season review than this, ANYWHERE.
Hindsight being 20/20, 2 games from the first half of the ACC still bother me: Clemson, because of the way we played, and ND because let a chance for a 2nd signature win get away. Win both of those, and we are in the discussion for a Thursday night ACCT start and right there to grab a Top 4 seed in the NCAAT.
TroutParticipantSince that B1G team was mentioned:
http://maryland.247sports.com/Bolt/Ohio-State-Returns-Tickets-for-Maryland-Game-31486575
(Ohio State is returning part of their allotment for the game next week at MD)
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