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13:21 50-34 Trevor Lacey Defensive Rebound
9:46 52-50 Anthony Barber made Layup.a 16-2 run … in 4:34
That is actually 3:35. And it was a better run than that… it was 50-32 with 13:36 remaining, so it was an 18-2 run in 3:50.
My favorite Des play last night was the alley oop to him where he went for the dunk in traffic and got fouled. We need more of that aggressiveness. Loved seeing him get those minutes last night.
As for Washington, I’m okay with him getting reduced minutes. He is too willing to take long jump shots, and he is only shooting 41% on the season.
It’s unclear when the page was last updated… possibly not since August. But nfldraftscout ranks him as RB #44 out of 182 RB prospects. That suggests he would be undrafted if he went pro this year.
How does he rate as an NFL prospect? I have been surprised at the speculation because I think he is a long shot to make it.
It’s another up late and blow the lead outcome that is becoming all to familiar with Gottfried coached teams.
Is it a pattern? Honest question.
To know that, we need to know the following:
1. How many times Gott teams were “up late” (which needs to be defined) and ended up losing.
2. How many times Gott teams were up late and ended up winning.And to really treat this subject thoroughly, it would also help to know the following:
3. How many times Gott teams were down late and ended up losing.
4. How many times Gott teams were down late and ended up winning.And we should probably narrow it down from all Gott teams to Gott’s teams at State. Anyone have anything more than anecdotal data on this?
OK, that’s what I thought. So all of this evidence is circumstantial and speculative. There is no actual known trend that can be directly tied to Luckie (or any other specific referee).
Carry on.
TJW fouled out 3 times in the regular season. All three times were games that Luckie called. Luckie called 5 NC State regular season games, and Warren fouled out a staggering 60% of them, while not fouling out in another regular season game all year.
Warren committed 97 fouls last year, but 22 of them were in 5 regular season games that Luckie called. So, 22% of his fouls came from the 5 games where Luckie was involved. Those 5 games represented only 13% of the total games that we played. Putting it another way, in those five games, his foul rate was 4.4 fouls per game. In all the other games, it was 2.41. That’s a 82% greater foul rate when Mr. Luckie is on the whistle.
For this line of thinking to be valid, it is insufficient to cite the number of fouls called on Warren in games that Luckie officiated. Rather, we need to know how many of his fouls were actually called by Luckie. For example, it would be much more persuasive if we knew that Luckie called 20 fouls on Warren in 5 games than if he called 6.
I haven’t seen that data; did I miss it?
Look at the stats! He made things happened when we needed him to. He knows what to do, he creates open shots, he could make his free throws, yeah he wasn’t fast on D, but did that stop him from doing good things? No.. Cat barber came in and just kind of did what he wanted didn’t really create opportunities.
It is ironic that you say to look at the stats and then go on to write the rest of what I quoted here. Apparently you are looking at the wrong stats.
Bottom line, combining offense and defense, Cat has been a net positive to date and Lewis was a net negative while at State. And it’s not particularly close.
I hope things work out well for Tyler, but he wouldn’t be playing at State this season, and justifiably so. Which is why he transferred. Like Wufpacker said, it was a smart move on his part (assuming he wants to play).
Actually, this rule suggests that the old trick inbound play to bounce the ball off the defender’s back, grab it and score when the defender has his back to the inbounder should be illegal. By the time the inbounder reestablishes himself inbounds, the ball would have already bounced off the defender, meaning the inbounder would be the first to touch it after reestablishing.
You don’t see that play a lot but I’ve seen it a few times over the years. I distinctly remember Othell Wilson doing it for UVA one time, either in the Final Four or a late round ACC tournament game.
Although, not to get all semantic, there was a player touching the ball when he came back inbounds. Wouldn’t that technically be the ‘first’ player to touch the ball?
Exactly. And that’s why you never see that called… Think about players like Scott Wood and J.J. Redick… they ran the baseline and went out of bounds all the time. But because another player had the ball to pass to them, there were no violations.
It was a bad call.
I agree the D is much improved, with one exception — Turner. He was abused on defense last night and committed 4 horrible fouls. And he didn’t make up for it on offense. I don’t understand why Gott played him 30 minutes and Des 0 minutes. I think State fans overrate Des, which is probably the true reason he isn’t playing (i.e., isn’t as good as the guys who are playing)… but still, Turner should have been benched last night.
Unsteady and lack of poise is a good description.
To me, it seemed like Purdue is a solid team. I’d be surprised if they aren’t in the hunt for a NCAA bid. That 7 footer rotation is tough to deal with and both of those guys are skilled. And they are well coached. I think this will end up looking like an acceptable road loss by the end of the season.
I was disappointed with our offense. I would expect the team to be practicing zone offense a lot, but I didn’t see any results of that last night. Washington looked good, though I think his shot selection is still a bit questionable at times. But with the lack of zone offense, the team is forced to rely on him to hit 20 foot jump shots regularly.
The other main thing that disappointed me is Gott playing Turner so many minutes. He committed four horrible fouls and was generally abused on defense. And he didn’t really do anything on offense to compensate — he had 5 points, 3 rebounds, and 2 assists in 30 minutes. His contribution was a net negative and it wasn’t close. I think a lot of State fans overrate Lee, but I don’t get him getting 0 minutes last night when Turner should have been benched.
As for that out of bounds call, I’ve never seen anything like that. I wish the referees were forced to explain that call.
Last night was one of those nights where Lewis’ steadiness (and free throw shooting) might’ve played a role in the game.
Could not disagree more. Cat had 6 points, 1 turnover, 2 rebounds, and 2 assists. He made 2 free throws. There is no reason to believe Lewis would have done any better; Purdue’s guards gave Cat some difficulty and would have smothered Lewis. Not to mention they would have abused him on defense.
I’m already tired of the constant pining for Lewis.
What should concern fans of cheating and fraud
LOL, nice work.
You’re doing god’s work my friend. Love the tone of your posts.
This.
I think the rotation this year will be mostly 8 guys, with the Martin twins expanding that to 10 as needed. Easing them into the rotation is warranted by where they are in terms of health and development.
I agree. The twins will get their main opportunity next year, when Turner and Lee are gone.
The only thing I would argue with is “everyone else.” I’ll be surprised if Gott can keep 10 guys in every game, he admits that 9 was unusual for him last year. But I hope he does.
I was thinking of it as season long averages, which means it will include garbage time. However, I agree, where I said I might be a bit high, the first thing I’d knock off is that 2 points, since we have a roster that goes 10 deep without including the end of bench guys. That will probably limit the scoring outside of that group of 10 players.
We should also expect some players to miss some games, meaning it isn’t appropriate to sum the individual averages to get the team’s average. Last season, the team averaged 71.1 ppg, but the individual player averages summed to 74.6 ppg. So where we came up with 78-80 ppg, the team will likely average a bit less.
Has anyone seen the SI preview of the ACC? They ranked the conference about the same as everyone else (we’re a little low at #10), but the interesting thing is their predicted stats.
They list their predictions for our best 7 players.1. Trevor 13 ppg
2. Ralston 12 ppg
3. Cat 11 ppg
4. Abu 7 ppg
5. Dez 7 ppg
6 Caleb 4 ppg
7. Nard 4 ppgNo Kyle, no Anya???
Morons!I’ll take a shot:
14 Lacey
12 Turner
11 Barber
10 Washington
8 Anya
7 Lee
6 Abu
5 Freeman
5 Martin twins
2 everyone else
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80 ppgI am probably a little high overall. We averaged 71.1 ppg last year. I expect improvement, with more overall talent and (relevant) experience. Not sure if we will see a jump up by ~9 ppg, though.
Either way you need a good backup when something goes wrong with your PG. I do not see a really good option at this point.
Barring a major injury to Cat that causes him to miss several games, if not having Lewis to back him up is our biggest problem, we’re in great shape. I would rank many concerns as higher priority than having a backup PG the caliber of Lewis, including (in no particular order):
Quality starters at all 5 positions
Overall team defense
The running game
At least one quality backup wing player
At least one quality backup big man, particularly since I don’t think we can count on 25+ minutes from Anya every gameLewis would only possibly address one of those (the running game).
YMMV
With all due respect, I think you’re missing Rick’s meaning. All that will be required is Cat to falter, even for a short time, and fans with bad patience and equally bad memories will start bemoaning how “Tyler woulda never….”
It might not happen on a large scale, but I’d wager that it will happen.
Well, if that was his point, I agree I missed it. But I would still disagree with it. Did fans say “Harrow woulda never…”? I don’t remember that. Have fans said “Purvis woulda never…”? Maybe it’s too early to call that one.
Anyway, I wouldn’t put much stock in such opinions about Lewis (or Harrow or Purvis).
Except if Cat has a bad game or gets hurt or goes into a slump or just gets tired.
Except all of these would require Lewis to play well (better than our current backup options) to be missed. That is no given.
And it would require Lewis to have a good attitude about his role when Cat was playing well. Again, no given.
Chop, regarding Tyler’s assist to turnover ratio, you are right. Lewis and Barber had the same number of assists, but Cat averaged two TOs per game, while Tyler had one. On the other hand, Cat had 50% more rebounds, twice as many points and three times more steals. He also pushed tempo while Tyler dribbled around the perimeter for 30 seconds. I will gladly sacrifice one turnover a game for better defense, more points, and an uptempo offense.
Lewis in 2013-14:
Field goal %: 34.6%
Rebound %: 3.7%
Assist %: 32.9%
Turnover %: 17.5%
Steal %: 0.6%Barber in 2013-14:
Field goal %: 40.1%
Rebound %: 4.8%
Assist %: 27.5%
Turnover %: 16.1%
Steal %: 1.5%Cat was better in every metric except assist percentage. That’s right, Cat had a lower turnover percentage than Lewis.
And we know Cat is a far superior defender.
Our team will not miss Lewis this season.
