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We really can’t win when Lacey takes 4 shots in a half and it isn’t because he is going to the line.
We also can’t win when Lacey and Turner combined are shooting 27% (3/11).
Like many others, I cringe when Washington gets a lot of minutes, but he is our leading scorer, with 8 points. It could have been worse if he wasn’t playing.
Tau837ParticipantHe’ll post Barber and back him down. Lee is probably the best option.
Huh? Barber spent the most time on him in the first half and he didn’t back him down once.
By my unofficial count, Hanlan scored 10 points while Cat was guarding him but also had a turnover and Cat drew both of his fouls. When others guarded him, Hanlan drew 4 fouls and scored 4 points from the line.
Despite the 10 points, Cat did a good job. Hanlan got both of his three pointers behind screens when our big man did not hedge out. Otherwise, he was 2-4 with an offensive foul and a turnover with Cat guarding him.
Tau837ParticipantLooks like that should have been a charge. Des beat him to the spot and wasn’t moving or leaning in.
Tau837ParticipantThis is painful to watch. I hope Gott has a tirade planned for halftime. He doesn’t even have his jacket off…
Tau837ParticipantWhy is Lacey not getting touches on offense?
Tau837ParticipantWhy are we not keeping Cat on Hanlan? He has drawn 4 fouls in the past couple of minutes with other players guarding him. WTF?
Tau837ParticipantPlaying with fire with Cat out of the game. Hanlan has just drawn two straight fouls and will now go to the line. Wish if we were going to sub for Cat it would be Des on Hanlan.
Tau837ParticipantThat was a WOW play by Barber. I cannot believe his transformation.
Tau837ParticipantHanlan has averaged 28 points over his last 7 games. He has 5 points, 1 turnover, and 2 fouls halfway through the first half. 1 offensive foul drawn by Cat, 1 defensive foul drawn by Cat. To be fair, our attention on him has helped others to get open shots.
Still feels like a great sign despite the score.
Tau837ParticipantTurner opening 0-4 isn’t a great sign. Good time to reduce his minutes for Des and the twins.
Tau837ParticipantUgh. Awful start. BC is on fire.
Tau837ParticipantIs #4 the break between playing and not playing on Thursday ?
That is correct.Am I correct in that if we win out and the Holes lose to Dook… then we’re #4 ?
Isn’t it Wednesday rather than Thursday? I believe the championship game is on Saturday this year, meaning the top 4 seeds would first play on Thursday.
Tau837ParticipantPretty sure Grant deserves 1st team All ACC.
#1 in minutes
#8 in FGP
#1 in assists
#2T in steals
#4 in pointsLast year, Notre Dame was 8-4 in games he played and 7-13 in games he did not play. This year, he has played all 29 of their games and they are 24-5.
If only one PG was allowed, it should be him. But I think multiple PGs can make it, so others aren’t necessarily ruled out.
Tau837ParticipantWho else might be considered for first team All Conference at Point Guard?
Isn’t Perrantes the UVA PG?
Pretty sure Jerian Grant, Paige, and Tyus Jones will all be ranked higher than Cat this year. I predict all of them make some version of All ACC. Hanlan will get plenty of support as well, given he is the leading scorer in the conference. Angel Rodriguez may also get some support.
If Cat plays like he has been the past 6 games all season next year, he has a great chance at first team.
Tau837ParticipantIf we win out, we would have 11 wins and would hold tiebreakers over Syracuse and Louisville (if head to head is the tiebreaker). Not sure how it would work if we end up tied with UNC, since we split our two games with them.
But given the schedules, it feels like if we win out we will get the 4 seed in the ACC tournament.
Tau837Participant18 ppg (on good shooting), 25 assists, 10 steals, 8 turnovers over last 6 games, all while running the team and playing outstanding defense. His play has also picked up our transition offense a bit.
And that 6 game stretch included UVA, @Louisville, @UNC, not an easy stretch.
This is why he was a McD AA. If he can play like this from here forward, IMO he is the best PG in the ACC.
Tau837ParticipantI’d love to see Gottfried bust out a red blazer, white shirt, red tie combo tonight.
Tau837Participant^Like the 72 Olympics reference
Tau837ParticipantThis will not be a surprise to anyone but in the past I have had a tendency to flame others.
LMAO
Tau837ParticipantCaptain Cheat in his house or horrors and fraud
LOL, nice.
Tau837Participant^How many football facilities are there in the nation? A lot. Top 30 is one of the finest.
Tau837ParticipantAs I posted previously, I think these scenarios get us in without winning a game in the ACC tournament:
1. Finish regular season 4-1. Doesn’t really matter to whom we lose, though it wouldn’t seem great if it was either home game (VT = bad loss; Syracuse = last game). Regardless, that would be 19-12 (10-8) regular season against a top 5-10 SOS, with at least two marquee wins and no bad losses.
2. Finish regular season 3-2 with two of the wins over UNC (another marquee win on the road) and VT (to avoid a bad loss). 18-13 (9-9) against a top 5-10 SOS, with 3 marquee wins, including 2 on the road, and no bad losses. This one is a bit dicier, but I’d be surprised if it wasn’t enough.
Not holding my breath for either scenario.
No less than 3 more wins is required unless we win the ACC tournament. No team has ever received an at-large bid with 15 or more losses.
Most likely scenario seems to be finish 3-2 with loss to UNC, wins over VT and Syracuse at home, and split of the 2 other road games. In that scenario, we probably need to win 1 game in the ACC tournament to feel secure. I don’t think 2 wins would be required, but that would clinch it.
Tau837ParticipantThough I don’t entirely agree with the methodology he uses, this is a nice little article showing that at least a couple other systems outperform the RPI in predicting NCAA Tournament results
As has already been pointed out, the RPI isn’t designed to predict anything. So not sure it matters if other systems are better at that.
Tau837ParticipantGottfried is a good recruiter but we need to see some guys like Barber, Abu, and the Martins develop into those type of players before we can realistically say an NC State team is capable of winning the tournament.
Not sure about 1st round picks, but from our current team, I expect Anya to play in the NBA for sure. I think Barber has a good chance, Lacey has a slim chance, and it’s too early to tell for Abu and the Martins. We could look back on this team in a few years and see that it had as many as 6 NBA players.
Tau837ParticipantJust learned today that no team with more than 14 losses has ever received an at-large bid. 6 teams with 14 losses have received at-large bids since 1985, but the last time was 2008 and the time before that was 2001.
Assuming we don’t win the ACC tournament, 3-2 over the remaining regular season games means 14 losses. I would like to think it is rare for teams with 14 losses to have resumes as compelling as ours would be (Duke and Louisville wins, top SOS, no bad losses)… But I don’t know that to be true.
It seems that 3-2 with one of the wins over VT (to avoid a bad loss) should be enough. But I’m not confident about that.
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