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this one is a head scratcher… makes you wonder if the guy was like look man let me get your insurance info just in case… and then Shad was like no… or if it was like hey man are you ok? Yeah man I’m fine… then later dude decides he’s not fine and then cops are like where is the other guy he just left once I said I’m fine… which amounts to a technicality.
Seems like this should be a ticket if anything given it was a moped. I’d like to hear the explanation on the ticket and Shad’s side before making a judgment. I would have to tell him that I’m tired of dealing with issues regarding him after the field. He does seem to be a magnet for trouble as some people just are.
Sure thing… I felt this was bad but right now simple assault on a football field is just that. Yes what they did was wrong but on the scale of 1-10 it’s not throw the book at them as the minority among us have suggested. Im sure there is precedent to draw from.
I saw a few of my comments pieced together which I did find as interesting as some of the reactions to it. Never thought the words “calm down” or “police are out of control with no fear of punishment” would rile up so many. As far as the stats go, they are what they are and were just brought up as an extreme for comparison to this incident. As far as extremes go a ref getting hit in the sport of football is really bad but not as extreme as other outcomes we see all the time our society.
I’m all for throwing the book at idiots who take lives. Kids make mistakes in judgment in the heat of the moment playing a violent sport and I’m sure in the good old state of texas they will pay for it. My good friend Mike seemed to IMO overblow the situation that obviously hit home to him. Tis all.
Funny how some think the only opinion welcomed here is their own.
Maybe “as you were” or “warm regards” as a salutation will be less instigating
Budfox88 come on man this is used to be a pretty friendly board to post on so no need for the personal attacks about my youth, political disposition, or sanity. Lets just keep this topic on the facts.
What happened a ref was hit by two players. you feel that this is a criminal offense. I for one, could see this as more blatant than any I’ve seen but would have a hard time believing hitting a referee is unprecedented in sports.
Secondly the assertion about the police is your opinion that I obviously do not share. The US is on pace for 36 non-accidental, firearm-related police fatalities in 2015, which would be the lowest total in 25 years, aside from 2013. Feel free to fact check.
Police fatalities by year
– 2009 – 62
– 2010 – 285
– 2011 – 166
– 2012 – 602
– 2013 – 337
– 2014 – 623
– 2015 – 350 (ytd)I bring these numbers up to point out that the fear of the police is very real. I’m also aware that police do die in the line of duty and they are in very real peril at every traffic stop and response to a phone call that may have been one of mine. While many perpetrators do deserve / ask for what happens to them, many police are also out of control without real fear of reprimand in this day and age. Even though I disagree with your assertions that we should have nothing but the utmost respect for all police when know that not all police are good, I don’t see a need to disrespect your point of view although it differs from mine.
By the way lets get back sports lol
I agree with you that this isn’t run of the mill cheap shot. This was clearly way worse but officials do sign up for incidental contact and some are sent to the hospital for accidents that happen during the course of a play. This was way different, with the fact that two kids went out of their way to take out their frustrations on one defenseless unassuming official. I could see suspending them for a season, even community service (and the criminal record that comes along with that), if this is their first offense. If this isnt their first offense they should get worse punishment. What concerned me most is that this may have been an order by a coach. If so, in addition to whatever punishment befalls the two kids, the coach should lose the privilege of coaching for some significant amount of time. And if I’m AD or head coach that person is fired. Not sure what criminal resonsibility is there but the adult needs to be away from football and kids if it ever comes out that coach participated. Taking away a season seems absurd for what seems like an isolated incident.
Mike calm down it was a cheap shot and it wasn’t the first cheap shot in the history of football. Players who take cheap shots get thrown out of games and a 15 yard penalty. This obviously hit home because he is a a former official but we don’t punish police and they are out of control. Hard for me to see why this official is worth a whole season being forfeited due to the actions of two punk ass kids who had serious lapses in judgement.
very thorough analysis Sacco. I do have a couple of questions. Are there only 5 ACC wrestling teams or only 5 good enough to warrant providing a scouting report? Secondly, UVA you have picked to finish better than us in the ACC and worse in the NCAA’s. Is that due to matchups/scoring variances, they are deeper which provides more points in conference while we have a few really good wrestlers competitive enough to place in the NCAA’s?
The sky fell and since then we have added Torin Dorn and Shaun Kirk and are in the mix for two high quality 2015 players. Not calling him the second coming of V but this guy Gott can scramble with the best in the business. Come on Papa G and Maverick Rowan.
My expectations even with these pieces are middle of the road ACC for next year but 2016 and beyond can be special, if not for the early departures / transfers.
Go get ’em Gott
Foose thank you for stating who that is. I knew he looked familiar and she definitely has on NC State shorts. But I didn’t get much other confirmation on anyone else’s clothes or the court. Very well played by Alex.
Sidenote: I hate the fact that I have to watch an ad before watching this video on ESPN and Bleacher Report because I’d be surprised if AJ, whomever filmed this, or his fiance will receive a dime of the proceeds.
Classy move though young sir…
I just came to say hi I missed you guys. Also, things (activity not commits) are picking up in the bball recruiting/transfer front. that is all.
When we are in fighting and when we are not this is my favorite NC State fan blog… EVER. By the way, whatever happened to that person who had the female in a bikini avatar?
Not kidding, that person came off as as both a well informed and well endowed commenter. Anywho, whoever you are you are missed for much much more than your good looks. I can’t be the only one who remembers her or can I?
Yeah I figured taint was most appropriate for that cesspool… Ashe are you sure it taint Durham or Chapel Hill? I thought it was one or both of them
no offense if you went to NCSU and happen to live in either taint like city filled with so many taint worthy citizens
Well we never know… What if Kansas offers he could demand to be released, he could decide to play overseas and take the rest of the team with him, he will probably tell Dennis Smith not to come… Omg Fire him now before he has a chance to recruit anyone else who may get an offer from anyone else.
I kid I’m going to chill and watch this all play out
Yeah Gottfried is battling with the big boys for some great kids. This kid just goes to show we don’t know all the irons that Gott has in the fire. I’m very thankful and excited by the job that he has done thus far and hopeful for the future.
Reel ’em on in Gott and keep building your program. NC State Basketball is heading in the right direction.
I agree with you guys but programs like OSU, FSU, Alabama, USC all tend to deal with this problem well every year. I do not understand it. I get going to the school you love being a homer, I don’t get it when you go to a program for the coach just to ride the pine.
disclaimer I was never a world class athlete with these kind of problems to consider… bet you guys never figured that lol
I only saw two names with NC State the UNC A Guard and the Cleveland State guard. Who else did i miss? The UNCA guard will be a touch sell if he has to sit a year then compete with hopefully Dennis Smith and Cat in 2016. The Cleveland State guard is a one and done but will he want to come into a situation where he is a back up for a year but in a much better league.
We will see if Gott will figure it out though
Glad to see everyone is so high on Kirk. I hope he plays well for us.
All that talk of Hall of Fame coaches I figured that limits it to Self/K/Roy – Calipari not a shoe in for Hall given transgressions although his accomplishments will be worthy by the end. Roy amid scandal I don’t see it, plus it usually takes more than one and done with Roy… Only leaving K unfortunately.
It would be a welcome shock if he chose anywhere else to play but K is a one and done factory right now and gives you the opportunity to compete for a ship. If he didn’t say Hall of Fame coach and I think he wants to play near home too then Calipari would still be in it.
All things considered lets just be thankful he’ll be gone after one if he chooses one of our nemesis
my guess is it was a glitch but my inner conspiracy theorist says it may have been the son of Rocco and Angelina sending out a subtle reminder that hey guys… while it would have been great to play another weekend, keep in mind that not long ago things were a lot worse
Why does everyone think Anya, Abu, and Cat are all going pro? If they are that great next year we are sitting on a final four team and should be grateful. Those three pros plus Henderson and the twins and we still have a great team. Then just imagine the ammunition Gott would have to recruit with.
* you can come play right away
* I’m putting 3 kids in the league next year
* If I can put those three in you are a shoe in lolIf you folks with the pro predictions are correct we have 3 All-ACC players on next year’s team and still want to say Gott is doing a bad job. Or are we really that spoiled to where we are being negative about the 2016-2017 season?
Rick your post always imply the sky is falling.
Your avatar is actually pretty contradictory to your cynical posts. Then you reference your comments as if you are merely just stating facts and only facts. However, more often than not, you post your pessimistic opinion/interpretations of the facts. There is a big difference between the two.
I guess having faith has left you to often disappointed so now you choose the role of the sky is always falling approach. That way when it does you receive the inner gratification of knowing you were right and then when it doesn’t you can state that the success was somehow a fluke and the sky will fall next time.
Its shocking that you didn’t see yourself as the “sky is falling guy”
Only us at nc state will look a gift horse in the mouth. Dave Doeren goes 3-5 in the conference… And he’s the guy. Also ran recruiting but let’s build him a statue lol. I love DD for our school by the way. I just want point out our hypocrisy.
Now Mark Gottfried in the more competitive sport has taken us to two sweet 16’s a top 5 recruiting class… But… He’s peaked, we need to move on, he can’t recruit, we know what we have with him lol… Wait what?
For us to be a engineering school a hands in the dirt school it’s hard for me to follow the logic of our fan base. With Herb I thought he was building something. Maybe 5 years too late but building something… What MG has done is nothing short of amazing and we are like “next”?
Billy Donovan and Calipari used us as a domino to get bigger checks. We were never taken seriously. We finally have someone who seems to love us like we love us and somehow it’s makes since to dismiss his success and discredit his recruiting despite having “2 line talent” by years end.
My mind is feeble forgive me for not following the logic typed here
I’ve seen the Newman news where everyone pretty much thinks he’s a lock for MSU at this point. That was our better shot of the two in my mind given the position depth, Mo Williams connection, relative depth in the front court/wings. Next man up… whoever you are lol
