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MrPlywoodParticipant
WBS got schooled.
MrPlywoodParticipantAn intentional foul is now built into the Flagrant 1 definition.
MrPlywoodParticipantNow THAT’s intentional, and not needed. WTF BSW?
MrPlywoodParticipantNo foul.
MrPlywoodParticipantHell that’s not even a foul, right?
MrPlywoodParticipantNice comeback Pack. They look like they have their feet under them now.
MrPlywoodParticipantGood lord, the ticky tack call on Anthony on their end, then TJ gets hammered and nothing.
MrPlywoodParticipantVandwagon needs to do more of that. But make the FTs!
MrPlywoodParticipant^^He probably went to the Dook summer bball camp.
MrPlywoodParticipantThat was a nice move and pass by Anthony.
MrPlywoodParticipantOne more then I’m done… looks to me like the ref is also out of position. He assumed a lot on his call. This pic is before he’s blown his whistle…
OK I lied, here’s another shot of the smiling ref… I might make that dude my avatar.
MrPlywoodParticipantNo shove? Maybe not with his hands but surely with the body. Cooney was way out of position, desperately trying to catch up to the play, made a wild “attempt” at the ball and knocked TJ off his line. The first photo clearly shows a hold with Cooney’s right hand, not a grab per se but holding TJ back. Then Cooney crashes into TJ with his chest.
[edit] Just added another pic showing the end of foul shove. Look, the dude was doing all that he could to keep TJ from scoring without really making a play on the ball. That’s a flagrant 1.
Perhaps TJ should have flopped and gone careening across the floor flailing his arms and legs instead of trying to make the bucket.
MrPlywoodParticipantWell this is a fun one.
There’s no “intentional” foul by name now, but such a foul is part of the definition of a Flagrant 1.
Art. 2 Personal Foul, Part c., Item 3: Pushing or holding a player from behind to prevent a score.
The play could certainly qualify in that regard.
Item 2 says: Contact that is not a legitimate attempt to play the ball or player, specifically designed to stop or keep the clock from starting.
That could apply as well.
Cooney was behind the play the entire time. Sure he swiped “at the ball”, sort of. But the fact is that State had the balls to run that play, almost to perfection, caught Cuse off guard then the ref bailed them out. How many times have you seen a defensive player hold up when he’s behind a guy with ball, heading for the basket? It’s because it would be called.
So Flagrant 1, no basket. Fine by me. TJ gets FTs AND State gets the ball. Sounds about right.
I also noticed on the resulting inbound play that TJ is open under the basket. I dare say things would have been different if he had received the ball there.
And the “smiling ref” after the Lee miscue really bugs me.
MrPlywoodParticipantHaha – women’s curling has the MILF factor, although there are some younger teams this year too. I get a kick out of the men’s teams, wearing their technical stretchy fabric shirts to show off their weight-trained biceps. It’s curling man! I played some when I first moved up here, and it can be fun if you have the right group of people competitively matched. As in, I played to win, while most others played to get to the beer. Don’t waste my time bro! While there is strategy and hand-eye coordination involved, I don’t think it belongs in the Olympics – it’s got more in common with golf than hockey. Give me short-track, hockey, slopestyle skiing was nuts, and I was REALLY into the biathlon for some reason.
And women’s skeleton. Talk about yer bods…
MrPlywoodParticipantuNX 56.5% from 3, 87.5% FT. Get ’em in the tourney ladies.
MrPlywoodParticipantuNX is 56% from 3. Nutz. It’s all my fault for checking on the game.
MrPlywoodParticipantAll due respect to those with more experience than I have, but I read the NCAA definition of “continuous motion” and a good post interpreting said definition with examples, and I think TJ’s play should have been an and-1. They key is that TJ does not dribble after the foul and has started his motion toward the basket.
For the record, I’m not whining, I just like to educate myself and get a better understanding of the rules and concepts.
source:
https://www.arbitersports.com/myrefereeapp/?mod=Article&id=112500MrPlywoodParticipant“I got married too, and she told me I was an argumentative, stubborn, know it all, and it needed to stop.”
Were the nuptials contingent on that transformation? 🙂
MrPlywoodParticipantSo SEC for football and Big 10 for basketball?
MrPlywoodParticipantShout out to Turner who kept his head in the game and had a key 9 points, including the 3 FTs (after an admittedly bad foul by Ennis on a loooong shot).
MrPlywoodParticipantJust heard an unrelated news story, and the end line was “You can’t control the events, only how you react to them.” It certainly fits in this case.
Re: Des – State kept playing after his miscue and Anthony drew the key foul against Ennis. There was still a game to be won. They could have packed it in.
MrPlywoodParticipant“Did Hell almost just freeze over?”
There were pigs preparing for takeoff on the runway.
MrPlywoodParticipantI was hoping the WBS would repay the favor and body tackle Fair on his drive.
MrPlywoodParticipant“He completely out coached sorry excuse.”
Translate please.
MrPlywoodParticipantCall me crazy, but I do believe that Gott coached today.
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