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Thanks Ad Yow.
She’s got us currently ranked 5th or 6th in the Directors Cup. We are kicking butt in nearly all the Olympic sports. The revenue sports are looking up. Baseball is in the top 8 in every poll. I can hardly believe it. Our wrestling coach was robbed out of Nat. COY accord to a non-State biased wrestling expert. We brought home another Natty and a bunch of AA’s.
It’s the best this 80 y.o. here has ever seen Wolfpack sports and I’ve been watching and rooting for the Pack for over 70 years.
Has anyone watched or is up to date on the state of the team so far? I was wondering if there are valid expectations that the LB group will be better this year?
Practices are closed and so are the mouths of the coaches about specific results we can expect. As far as LB’s go, Sr. Germaine Pratt (6-3, 245 lbs) will start at one LB He’a the dude who picked off Lamar Jackson and then flattened Jackson as he crossed the GL for a pick 6. There are several likely players to fill the other spot. I like Brock Miller (6-3, 231) but he’s coming back after surgery so we shall see if he is ready. There are several more who red-shirted who could contribute.
IMO the biggest asset we will have is Ted Roof coaching the Safeties. I Don’t know for sure but I’m speculating that Roof will coordinate the DB’s and Nickel back while Hux will coordinate the LB’s and DL.
The big question mark IMO will be Coach Kevin Patrick and is he going to do the same good job with the DL now that those guys have graduated. Patrick was AA DE at the U and All-Pro in the NFL. I hope that translates into great coach.
Maybe somebody will have a little more than this.
From my distant view it seems Coach Doeren has worked very hard to install an actual winning program of ongoing improvement, to include — 1) building up a first-class staff, 2) become a real factor in in-state recruiting and signing NCSU’s share of the best talent, 3) install a complete player development program – strength training, conditioning, nutrition, health and last but not least academic support.
Jax, You don’t say it explicitly but you are alluding to the culture that Doeren has created here.
Cole Cook, TE (2014-17) says,
“By choosing to play at NC State, I was able to help build and be influenced by a culture that promotes excellence on and off the field. I was coached extremely hard and pushed to be the best player I could be to help our team, while at the same time utilizing resources that allowed me to complete two degrees. Most importantly, I was around a group of men every day that taught me how to be a good man and prepared me for life after football.”As Coach Doeren puts it,
“Our goal is that when a young man leaves our program, he’s not only been provided with the tools to become a great player and earn his degree, but is prepared to be a great man.”The Top 5 favorites list of many of our recruits now includes NC State. This isn’t where we were when Doeren came here. Doeren is ridiculed because he was touted as a great recruiter. Because of this some our fans expected Doeren to have a line of BS and would be signing 4 and 5-star recruits from the git-go.
The Pro Day recently held at NC State has opened the eyes of some of the better recruits. Rumor has it that recruits are contacting us after the showing of our future pros on Pro Day. Our entire starting defensive line is predicted to be drafted along with a few offensive players.
This is the culture of 1Pack1Goal.
http://gopack.com/news/2018/2/28/football-1pack1goal.aspx?path=football
Get an up close view of Wolfpack football. Overcoming a century of being promoted by the PTB to be second to UNC in all ways has not and will not be easy but it’s happening. Every Wolfpacker should read this and be proud to back the Pack.Greywolf, what is your point? Are you just stirring the point to see who will bite? We get that you have a great dislike for Coach Doeren and you don’t miss many opportunities to let StateFans Nation readers know about it. I’m having a hard time understanding expectations. Other than Earle Edwards, Tom O’Brien, and Dave Doren, NC State has never had a football coach stick around long enough to implement a complete college football program. Either the administration and supporters of athletics become inpatient and fire the coach or the coach moves on for one reason or another.
First and foremost I love Wolfpack football. We are nearing the end of spring practice and I was trying to stir up some football talk. And while I was about it, needle some of those who had sold out on the Pack when this thread was originally started.
You may be the only member of StateFansNation that thinks I dislike Doeren. Actually I neither like nor dislike him personally. I do believe he has slowly but steadily put together one of the better football programs in the ACC. I didn’t say he had some of the better teams in the conference but our program is one of the best.
You mentioned Edwards, O’Brien and Doeren as coaches who have been around long enough to have built a program. Coach Edwards actually built a program and some great teams, being ranked as high as 3rd in the nation one year. (Earle’s son, Bob, was a Jr. in HS in 1954 when Edwards came to State. Bob and I were classmates and neighbors in those days.)
I would have to say that Coach Amato was given ample time and support in building a program here but failed. Coach Sheridan was also here long enough, was successful and only left due to either health or personal reasons.
Thank you for your comments but we need some resistance such as 13OT provided to keep the conversation alive. (I’m not sure 13OT actually feels the way he spoke but it did keep the conversation going.)
As long as DD can win the home OOC games, beat BC, Syracuse and Wake Forest, plus one more somewhere, he’s 6-6 and still HC.
Still a real big DD fan I see. 😉 You might want to do a fact check and update the stats you cite.
That “one more somewhere” Has included ND and 3 of the past 4 years, the holes. DD also knocked off FSU and L’ville in 2017 plus some SEC school in the Sun Bowl, a bowl that’s been around longer than most on this board have been alive.
Except for his first year DD’s regular season record has been better than 6-6 every year. The current complaint is he’s not been better than 7-5 per year until he was 8-4 this past season.
Must be off season …
Yeah, You can tell that by the high number of people posting… LOL
Where art thou, ole wise greywolf? You’re silence is deafening….
Just thought I would bring up the question “Anybody NOT done with DD?”
I saw that Mr. DOG, myself and Yogi, I believe, had not given up on DD. Many took the opportunity to express similar thoughts about firing DY.
Anyone change their mind about either?
#10 Pack batting a team average of 341. #2 Klempson batting a team average of 265. But “they get a lot of walks and are aggressive on the base paths” according to Klempson writer who questions the Pack’s #10 ranking.
These weren’t close wins by the Pack. 10 runs scored by the Pack vs. 1 by the Tiggers. That writer might want to check out the Pack’s #10 ranking again not to mention the Tigggers #2.
Fire Avent!
That writer must have meant that Pack9 were ranked to low.
Read it for yourself.
https://www.shakinthesouthland.com/2018/3/16/17127934/regional-feel-for-wolfpack-and-tigers-this-weekend
“NC State is good, but not top 10 good, the Tigers might drop a game this weekend, but I like their chances to win another series.”As the great Emmitt Smith would say.. UNC getting blowed out.
As the great Greywolf would say… EweNC got blued out.
#10 Pack batting a team average of 341. #2 Klempson batting a team average of 265. But “they get a lot of walks and are aggressive on the base paths” according to Klempson writer who questions the Pack’s #10 ranking.
These weren’t close wins by the Pack. 10 runs scored by the Pack vs. 1 by the Tiggers. That writer might want to check out the Pack’s #10 ranking again not to mention the Tigggers #2.
Fire Avent!
It was the last game. They worked hard for it and I think my daughter figured out that practice pays off.
I gave them the ‘you work hard and it pays off’ speech. This was probably my favorite season ever. To see my daughter expression of joy after winning was worth every minute I put into the season.
Thanks for sharing Rick. Those lessons are the ones that make youth sports worthwhile.
Semantics. You’d still be upset if I said we shat the bed. In some ways, saying we “weren’t ready to play” sounds even worse to me. That implies some failure on the part of the coaching staff to get us mentally prepared. Which, I don’t blame KK at all. Guys simply dropped the ball, thought they’d already won by being the fifth seed, probably thinking ahead to Clemson.
It’s funny that you’re questioning others’ fandom on a fan forum. So if someone doesn’t agree with you or uses different terminology to describe what they saw, they’re a bad fan? OK.
I (and anyone else who said they choked) didn’t say it as a good thing. It’s a bad thing they did. It’s frustrating. But hopefully they learned from it the way they did the Ga Tech loss. I don’t think anyone on this team is so sensitive as to let words like “choked” affect them. If they are, then we’re screwed either way.
If you think players on this or any team don’t mind be called a choker or have it said they they choked, you don’t know people. The ability to perform or play under pressure separates the winners from the wannabees.
In my time to choke meant that you let the pressure get to you and missed a critical shot due to tension. It wasn’t a general term meaning all the things you say it means.
I wasn’t questioning anyone’s fandom, I was questioning your “big talking,” saying the team choked when you don’t have a clue what choking is.
Keatts is having his play anyway that offers then the best chance to win. After the loss to BC he said we didn’t play good defense. He didn’t throw them under the bus saying they choked.
He’s in this for the long haul. Accusing them of choking — even if he thought they did — is not on the list of good things to say about your team. IMO this includes fans. Of course if you don’t know anything else to say…
Rick, B.otb, Chop: Enjoyed your comments about youth sports. My son would play any anything that had a number on the back of the shirt plus wrestle. By choice played on 3 soccer teams in the same time frame — JrHS, travel and rec league. He also played the cello until senior year HS. I coached some rec and some travel league. Every practice without fail included 1/3 skills development, 1/3 group drills/training, and 1/3 play. They were asked to include some aspect of the days skill development. My son wasn’t the best overall player but he hated to lose the worst of them all.
I was a jerk with him occasionally. Like someone said I was harder on him than the other kids. I did manage my parents behavior. Once had a parents meeting during the travel league state tournament championship game. The meeting was short. Just long enough to let them know if the coaching and criticism didn’t stop, I would pull the team off the field and we would forfeit. Hard for kids to play with a parent or coach yelling at them, telling them what to do.
My daughter was the better athlete but her interests were more along ballet lines. She did seem to enjoy “walking” some boy down and taking the ball away from him. This was before we had girls leagues. After the girls leagues were formed she score 5 goals in the first half and spent the second half traumatizing the opponents in our defensive end of the field.
Enough of this trip down memory lane. I will say the my son let his 2 daughters play or not play. Their choice. His only rule was no quitting mid season. You start it, you finish it.
Bottom line is, we choked yesterday.
That’s a strong accusation for someone who doesn’t have any skin in the game.
I’m convinced the internet ruins the character of men. We say things on the net we wouldn’t dare say to peoples faces. THIS right here is “State stuff” coach. Live with it. It ain’t going away. Not on this board. Likely not on any message board.
He couldn’t say State sh!t but we know what he means.
That’s loser talk. Always has been; always will be. Good riddance. Now if we have the nads to call ourselves on it when it turns up again…
My son wrestled in JrHS at 132 I believe. I know what you mean about being tied up and embarrassed. I had to call his mother to help get me loose from something he called a cradle.
Yes, your guess is correct. It was the last time I wrestled with him on the living room floor or anywhere else for that matter.
BotB needs to up his geritol.
Geritol? Who said geritol? Whose got an extra shot of geritol?
Not with losing 9 starters on defense.
I hear this a lot. What were we last year? 50th in total defense? Do you think we will fall to 60th or 70th?
It’s just as possible that we will improve on defense with the new personnel and the addition of Ted Roof to the defensive coaching staff and brain trust.
Our basketball team didn’t look like much what with losing most of its scoring punch. Maybe our football team will be better by subtraction as well.
We fans are very experienced looking in the rear view mirror (losing 9 starters) to see where we are going. I expect the coaches are looking through the windshield to see where we want to go and how we are going to get there. Don’t count on the defense in 2018 being 50th or worse in total defense.
“I think that’s good,” Monmouth coach King Rice told NCAA.com. “We should have gotten into the tournament that year. People still come up to me to this day and tell me that.”
Those “people” wouldn’t happen to be fellow holes, would they, coach? The EweNC sense of entitlement apparently followed all the way to Monmouth.
“There’s a Pack’s #1 bumper sticker on every tractor and pick-up truck between Greenville and Greensboro.”
“Carter Stadium has natural turf so their homecoming queen will have somewhere to graze.”
“They’re not our rival.”It’s all the same “we’re too good to be Moo U’s rival. Just another no-class put-down attempt. To be honest about it, that kind of BS just makes every win that much sweeter. And every loss for the holes that much more bitter.
Strong message to follow!
1) never use roll on deodorants
I asked for some of that ball variety deodorant once but all they had was under-arm.
This is how you learn…bumps and bruises included. Keatts is the teacher…coach for real.
Yes! You play the game; you find out what you need to teach and coach.
