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Yep cow – I am hoping that how bad we want it is a hint of how bad our guys want it. Huge game… even though it may mean nothing to rest of the nature, it’s all about changing a tone and expectations
A little more than 12 hours…man, we need this one. I really want this team and these guys to accomplish something special.
NE Clam chowder (with hot sauce and those oyster crackers) is muy bueno, Manhattan = western NC bbq.
Thanks for props Cowdog.
I am a big fan of the area. I was actually born in Worcester. Went to my first Red Sox game in Fenway this year and was blown away. Same cannot be said of stadium in Chestnut Hill.
Basspacker – Bambard is 1 for 1 this year – and that kick was pretty high pressure.
Regarding the game itself and calls. Like others, the selective application of the rules the last 2 games has been very frustrating and unfair.
Whether it’s human nature or something more insidious, the “drop the mic” argument that something is amiss is the “show me when the underdog (who is NOT a preferred power) got the same benefits that the preferred powers do.”
What I find most frustrating is a denial that there even could be a problem so we should strive to fix it. It’s a reason I love golf – the refs don’t unfairly single anyone out for excessive treatment or give certain golfers an advantage. I love the fact that of a viewer sees something illegal he or she can call it in. (And to show you the true moral character of many in the mainstream media, they want this changed.)
I agree that his decision to punt on 4th and 1 on the 50 I’d where we effectively lost control of the game – and it harkened back to TOB’s decision to do the same (like TOB, we will probably forget this decision wasn’t fatal).
Our red zone futility surfaced once again and for the second straight year may be the real reason these last 2 seasons are filled with more “what could beens” than truly magical moments.
Still, there is a ton to play for – including our most ACC wins since the conference went to 8 teams…
Quite frankly, games like this coming one are the only reason DD doesn’t have 98% unconditional fan support. In the past, his teams have tended to implode at these moments.
Cosw – and that’s a fair reminder. Heck, Clemson lost when Bryant was out vs Syracuse. And it is without argument that we faired betterwhen we were able to game plan with a limited Hines than we did when we lost him the week before.
Still, the last 2 years, we have been relatively fortunate on the injury front and haven’t totally capitalized.
I don’t know if any college (or pro team) can overcome key injuries on a regular basis.
As you point out, the key games are coming up. The outcome of these games are likely to determine how we feel about this season and this staff.
I am pulling for us and the program to win all 3. I like the coach, love the kids he has put on the field, and it would be great if DD could affirmatively answer the question the way Gott negatively answered it.
Packzingo – I think that is fair.
6-2 would be the best conference record in 24 years.
I hope we can get there. It is time for this team and program to differentiate itself from it’s predecessors.
Cow if memory serves correct, we actually ranked fairly high the last few years.
I was also thinking about the difference between our D this year and last year – and realized we lost Josh Jones. I imagine Tocho was also pretty stout vs the run as well.
Long story short – our D isn’t as good against the run this year.
Offensively, I think we are improved. However, we definitely miss Dayes who was a solid all aroun and another receiving tight end
Rye – I think in the minority but I think the system was fine. I think Herb’s problem was his tendency to micromanage.
He could get away with it when he had an alpha dog like Hodge.
But his teams desperately needed that guy. Tactically he was solid. He wasn’t great at adjustments (like our current football coach) – but his teams were typically well prepared enough for that not to be an issue. Unfortunately, he couldn’t inspire confidence.
My impression is that Keatts can inspire confidence. I also think he is planning on playing a much bigger line-up that some are expecting. We may not be as big as Duke or UNC but I see us being significantly faster.
Let’s face it, after the first quarter, Saturday’s game was a disaster.
On both sides of the ball, it was a disaster.
Hopefully, that was a result of injuries and a couple of bad breaks.
Simply put, there’s nothing we don’t need to do alot better tomorrow.
Yep. Impressive start for Keatts but I am not surprised. I will be surprised if he’s not successful here.
Rye – we have tried to do that in basketball but haven’t gotten over the hump.
I actually disagree with inputs AND resources…those are somewhat relevant. However, the difference between NCAA state basketball and Clemson basketball is that we had Everett Case. Without Case, we don’t have Reynolds, without Reynolds and Case, we don’t have Sloan, without Sloan we probably don’t get DT, without DT we don’t win a natty. Without that natty, we probably don’t get Valvano. Without Valvano, we probably don’t get our second natty.
The three primary inputs are your conference – Can a successful team in the conference compete on a national level, your school’s leadership – can they identify and retain good talent, and last, but perhaps least, “consumer enthusiasm/ experience”.
In the past, when NC State was very good in football – the ACC was not respected as much on the national scene. That has unquestionably changed. I am hoping we have that “leadership” thing down for a little bit.
Regarding pass outs, if you noticed I carefully said that the goal should be to get people in the seats to start the 3rd quarter. Dirty secret, Clemson has pass outs. In the good Amato years, I don’t remember this being too much of a problem. However, the reality is that right now our stadium is half empty when the 3rd quarter starts and while it ,ay not hurt a lot it certainly doesn’t help. It certainly doesn’t help recruiting either.
I am not saying you eliminate them, rather the leadership should explore the best way to get “fannies” in the seats when the 3rd quarter starts.
Basspacker – I tend to agree. However, at this point in time, I am not sure that football, as we know it today, will be around in 15 years.
I hope it survives in it’s present form.
Now, if you remove the long term viability from the equation… I do think NC State has some advantages over its fellow North Carolina ACC schools. There’s definitely more passion midway thru the 1st quarter and up to the last 2 minutes of the second quarter…and from mid third quarter until end of game – especially in late afternoon to evening games. (Early first quarter, last 2 minutes of 2nd quarter until mid third quarter we are about the same.)
Having said that, I think quite possibly, to enhance the football atmosphere, the school needs to find a way to have people in their seats when the 3rd quarter starts.
We need to be clearly above and beyond our in-state competitors.
We have the best cultural fit. I think we have more “dedicated/committed season ticket holders. I would really like to see what would happen in Raleigh if we had some type of sustained success.
Gso – I have to admit, as I was watching Notre Dame shut our offense down for most of the game, I was wondering how we’d fare vs the tigers d.
Well, Yogi, if you think it was bad last week prepare to see it again.
I am of the opinion that the injuries and int for a td were the biggest factors of the game. The pick 6 was a close one.. close enough so that I can chalk it up to a bad break where we could have executed better.
My disappointment in coaching staff is that we were caught a little flat footed after the bye and were virtually dead from an offensive standpoint when Hines went down. Now, if Notre Dame loses Adams, they may be saying the same thing and we may be looking at gameday and an 8 pm kickoff.
Again, this doesn’t mean I don’t think the program is heading in the right direction. I just think one of DD’s weaknesses is in game adjustments and making lemonade out of lemons. (This is counter-balanced with his strength in overall preparation which of given the choice of two traits, I would rather have a builder than a magician.)
Today was disappointing. We fell apart in the 2nd half after those 1st 2 drives didn’t yield points.
Injuries definitely hurt us today – losing Hines and Jones was huge. I would like to complain about the officiating but we simply got manhandled in the trenches.
Offensively, this was our worst effort in a while. I hate that our offense fell apart like that after Hines left the game. We need to figure something out before these last 4 games. 6-2 would be quite an accomplishment for this team and program. Rome wasn’t built in a day and neither were the modern day Clemson Tigers. Our hail Mary shot was ruined by the Irish, but still plenty to play for next 4 games. Hopefully, the team will finish a promising season well and build on it.
Chem79 – I wouldn’t say Liberation Theology is world wide and I certainly wouldn’t attribute the Catholic Church’s stance on LGBT issues as out of the mainstream. There is nothing in the Bible that implies marriage between 2 of the same sex is ok, nor does it address the transgender issue. Clearly, as Christians we are called to love all, but having the church join two in a marriage that’s not acknowledged I don’t believe is cool with the majority of Catholics.
I think your opinions likely stand with the common sense, yet at the same time bold stance of the Catholic Church to not support abortion. Again, I don’t think the US is out of step here either with the majority of Catholics who aren’t running for office. I don’t understand how anyone regularly attending church can support abortion rights, but clearly a significant minority does. (Credit feminism and the mainstream media for getting folks to turn off their minds to what is actually going on there, especially as technology improves. )
Regardless, if there’s one thing I do appreciate about Notre Dame the will still declare a kid academically ineligible (and that rarely happens in any other big time program.)
Some random thoughts:
1) This is an elimination game for the college football playoff. If we win, the next week is the same thing. (I am using elimination game in it’s strictest sense, both teams are still alive for the bid, but the team that loses is eliminated.)
2) IMHO, the key is us getting ahead early, so we need a fast start (read opposite of SCAR game.)
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3) Notre Dame deserves to be ranked higher than us. Their “book of work” is clearly more impressive at this point and that worries me, as its usually a pretty good indicator of the outcome.
4) This is counter-balanced by the fact that DD does pretty well after bye weeks.5) Weather is favoring the domers. Forecast has gotten colder and colder. There’s also a chance of rain. They are probably as happy with this as we were about the hurricane.
Cow – as always appreciate your truly unique perspective.
This game is a “national” game of interest and it’s impact is solely a national one. We win and we are a story nationally and play the biggest game we have played in the last 25 years.
We lose and as cd implied – we can still win the ACC football title which would be the biggest revenue sports accomplishment since the 1983 championship, IMHO.
