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choppack1Participant
Well put Packfanistan.
The only good thing about that list is that programs like Louisville and Butler are on it.
They could have mentioned something about local media bias and the over representation of one school on BOG and under representation of said “toughest job” school but that probably wouldn’t play so well with Skipper.
choppack1ParticipantOf course the NCAA bungled it. They have sent an additional 2 NOA’s. They’re used to playing checkers, UNC is playing chess.
Institutions are supposed to report themselves, they are supposed to cooperate – in a sense – unc has used the rules against the NCAA rules against them by operating in bad faith. The NCAA is not set up to investigate violations of rules.
However, UNC has admitted academic fraud, they’ve admitted fake classes, theNCAA has the right to punish them based on the findings of the Wanstein report substantially.
choppack1ParticipantI think Jay hates the NCAA. (This of course probably indicates some level of self-loathing since he covers NCAA basketball extensively for ESPN.)
He spoke out against the NCAA when they ruled on Penn State which required courage and was intellectually justified. Here he is just being lazy. It’s not about “rigor” – meaning the how difficult the classes were. Rather, it’s about classes that didn’t exist and were done outside the framework of what any certified institution of higher learning would consider acceptable.
Basically, it’s the difference between showing up to work every day and doing nothing then submitting a time card for those versus not going into the office at all, not having your computer on at all and submitting a time sheet saying you were working during that time.
It’s definitely nuanced and unc and its advocates (like Jay Bilas and Andrew Carter) – are definitely counting on the public mixing up an “easy class” vs a non-existent one. Bills silence on the morality of what UNC has done to gain advantage and what they haven’t done to themselves in terms of punishment tells us what we need to know about him and ethics. (If he has been critical of the Heels I have missed it.)
choppack1ParticipantJust got our first commitment from a 2018 kid.
4 star combo guard from Georgia.
Glad to see Keatts recruiting combo guards, something our last two coaches didn’t do enough of.
choppack1ParticipantCow – so are you saying rather than being a calming, steadying influence, he is the opposite?
I don’t have an informed opinion of his baseball managing capability- I just see us in the big games…where we can’t quite finish or get over the hump.
choppack1ParticipantNor did it I. This appears to be Avents ceiling. Like Sendek, he is above average at what he does, but has fatal flaws that have kept him from advancing too far. Like Gottfried, his teams predicted to be great often come up short.
Like Sendek, there’s a good chance that wif fire him, his replacement will be worse.
choppack1Participantbut my first point is the QB. He’s good but really fell in DD’s lap, not recruited. I know,..even a blind squirrel.
DD has done a fine job of recruiting quarterbacks. Personally, I think his offensive systems rely too much on the quarterback running (which in the case of Brandon Mitchell) subjects them to injury – but schematically, it’s solid as has been the qb play in his tenure. (Further note on the injury thing- it’s just a pet peeve of mine, as I said, schematically it makes sense.)
We have the pieces in place. Thus, it will come down to injuries, execution, the kicking game and not blowing it in the coaching category.
choppack1ParticipantI don’t put it on the QB.
Starting in the ECU game, then vs Notre Dame, Clemson, BC, and in the second half vs FSU – the team and staff couldn’t get it done in the red zone. The kicking game was known to be inconsistent by ECU. Far too often we moved the ball great until we got in the red zone then deviated from what got us there. This tendency could have caused us the game vs Notre Dame, had us relying on a field goal kicker when we had physically dominated the tigers in the last drive in regulation and had us bogged down late in the game when we needed to score vs FSU and BC.
If we do better in the red zone, we should have a good year.
Regarding the stock analogy. NC State is only a buy I they are priced appropriately. We have positioned ourselves well, but current management has yet to completely execute. Now, I think the current management has set itself up for success, but they haven’t been able to put to much thus far.
choppack1ParticipantIt will be very interesting to see what he can do with a full recruiting cycle.
Like others, I am looking forward to seeing a team play hard.
I am excited about his potential. He knocked the proverbial cover off the ball at uncw. Now, he is in a much bigger league but you look for positive outliers and he definitely fits that criteria.
choppack1ParticipantBill – Yurt has good basketball skills. What he didn’t have was a teacher. Hopefully, he has someone who will mold him.
Chuck never had this guy’s skills.
choppack1ParticipantWe have at least one guy whom we need who is facing some academic issues…if he clears them, we should be in pretty decent shape next year.
choppack1ParticipantDsd – nothing pessimistic about that. Remember, this commish and his minions coveted Miami, BC and the Cuse and added va tech only because they had to. At that time
, they demonstrated their short-sidedness by looking at traditional tv markets vs markets that actually gave a flip about college sports. I am sure this deal is every bit as short-sidedchoppack1ParticipantWell the big question is whether or not the domers opt for a better geographical and financial fit by going to the big 10.
choppack1ParticipantNo UConn. Ease. We already have Syracuse and just got rid of Maryland. If it’s not Notre Dame, I would prefer a school that actually brings something to the table football-wise and fan support (in the same sport)
choppack1ParticipantTractor – it’s a bum deal for DSJ and the one and dones.
I seriously doubt guys like Mav or Kapita would command much more than the value of their scholarship, room, board. Training facilities and food on the free market. For most kids, the scholarship is more than equitable and probably more than they would demand on a free market. Now, it’s a different story for the top prospects in the revenue sports. Those guys are getting hosed.
I think Kapita is making an ill-advised decision. I think Yurts call is a bit more difficult.
I don’t blame kids for going pro when they are in a good position to do so. I question the decision when it’s clear that their prospects stink. Each situation is different. Lacy was older so I certainly understand his decision. (He also probably was either close to graduating or he could have been.)
choppack1ParticipantSo you’re telling me that NC State is ahead of the curve and the rest of these guys are suckers for staying in school? Funny, I can’t think of any other school with the exception of Kentucky with as many early entrants in the draft….of course, most of their guys will be drafted. Our guys will be playing in exotic ports of call where the paychecks ain’t so regular.
choppack1ParticipantLet’s not act like this happens everywhere. Has any other ACC school had this many kids go pro with eligibility left and not get drafted?
This is not Keatts fault – I blame it on Gott. Kapita was a high risk signee from the beginning. If you are going to run a mercenary program you need to do better than he did the last 2 years.
choppack1Participant. I wish we would run a more of the spread run and shoot type Air Raid just to be exciting. I thought Eli D would install it but I didnt see it last year.
I don’t get this view. I prefer tough teams that opponents don’t want to play (and usually those type of teams are soft and give up tons of points and yardage.) However, I want offenses and defenses that result in wins…in whichever sport. If it does that I don’t give flip what the offense or defense looks like or how “flashy” or “exciting” it is.
choppack1ParticipantNo one is building the proverbial wall around the state until someone in the state builds something that drive 70k plus fannies in the seats.
If you want to know? why Swofford has insured that UNC is in the division they are in it’s because he understands the potential rewards to this prize. As long as we both continue floundering – no biggie. But if one can sustain some success – especially if that one is Chapel Hill – it will be harder for the other to catch up.
choppack1ParticipantNo Grey – and your optimism is refreshing and a good change of pace. And in general, you attack the post, not the poster….so I usually enjoy our exchanges.
There are usually 2 sides to every story and for now, you are taking the more optimistic one.
Regarding fan excitement and participation – I have always thought that DD’s criticism was true – but it ignored root cause and his own role in it.
His ACC home record is pretty bad. Just as he walked into a situation devoid of tons of talent, our fans haven’t been treated to tons of results on the field. So, instead of being in the game only to have our hearts broken, we have started the tailgating later, and substituted full time and attendance in the arena for an experience that is more predictable and less painful – hanging out with friends with otherwise don’t get to hang out with.
That embarrassing scene at the beginning of the 3rd quarter in the Clemson game probably wouldn’t have happened without the years of heartbreake that proceeded it. (Translation: I don’t think that happens in year 2 or 3 of Amato.)
Certainly, DD can’t be held responsible for the coaches before him any more than we can hold him responsible for the talent he inherited – but it would be nice if he said he understands why there aren’t fannies in the seats.
I will say this much – if we have a special season – and late in the season we see similar behavior I will call it out. (I have actually called it out in the past.)
choppack1ParticipantI really liked cow’s comment on belief. It’s definitely the difference between bad and good. Good and great.
Perhaps the best news for us from last year wasn’t that we showed ourselves of competing vs the conference elites, but rather that the troops did rally and salvage the season enough for us (and more importantly) them to look forward to next year.
We haven’t had the proper “electric” atmosphere in Carter Finley since Rivers junior year. (It has clearly had its moments but I am talking about a crescendo of team performance, fan excitement and quality opponent.)
It’s also important to note that 2 years ago we were in a very similar spot and couldn’t get “the big win”.
Regarding Hux – we actually defended pretty well last year and at times in his tenure. We have put together very respectable defensive efforts vs quality teams. We haven’t been as consistent as we need to be, but I do believe that the scheme can work. I still think that far too often we have linebackers covering guys in space (which is pretty much inexcusable with 4-2-5 when you aren’t bringing the house)…but aside from that, the scheme excels at what I imagine it’s designed to do: stop the run.
Regarding Drink – jury especially in the red zone and “must score” possessions is very much out.
choppack1ParticipantSure.
A national championship appearance.
Other BCS bowl game appearances.
An Acc conference championship in the last 30 years (in spite of being in the conference less than 15 years. Other ACC championship appearances.
More fan support.
If another BCS school is negotiating a home and home series whom to think would excite their fan base more?
This doesn’t mean that we can’t compete. It just means that we aren’t at their level and quite frankly haven’t been in 20 years.
choppack1ParticipantWulf – where is Louisville in that?
And no one would consider FSu, Clemson, Miami or Va Tech our peers.
Again, the 3 guys drafted and other seniors signing free agency contracts when those seniors aren’t even our highest regarded prospects indicates a solid squad…which I believe we were last year.
choppack1ParticipantGrey – that’s a great sign. However, I think our OL was pretty solid last year.
I do believe we have a gem in our current OL coach.
As far as his record, to me 4-4 in conference definitely buys him another year (assuming we don’t do anything crazy like going 0-4 or 1-3 OOC).
choppack1ParticipantRye – he definitely needs to get over the hump and beat a team or two he shouldn’t beat (, besides UNC – not that I am complaining)
Regarding the draft – the 3 players NC State had drafted tied us for 23rd in the country. While that ain’t earth shattering, it’s a solid number – especially when you consider most of our talent is in the junior class.
I think the recruiting is fine. Hopefully, they have learned not to offer scholarships to kickers based on athletic ability. To be fair, kickers are a unique bunch since so much of the challenge is mental.
I also think our QB was solid last year. Finley put us in position win 11 of our 13 games. He displayed an adequate arm and for the most part, good decision making ability. If he improves even just a bit, he will be having a 2nd/3rd team all-conference type season. The big question is whether he’s “peaked” with limited physical tools or if he develops a Davis type confidence issue. Remember, defenses now have a year of tape and will have a much better idea of how to attack him.
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