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bill.onthebeach
ParticipantDoes this mean we’ll have to ‘vacate’ last season ??
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!bill.onthebeach
Participant^that wouldn’t work unless our entire front line added 20lbs of solid A## and 20lbs of shoulders EACH…
Darius Hicks has been missed…
GO PACK!
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!bill.onthebeach
ParticipantYep.. ECU of Jawja…
Savannah is not that far away…
But a lot of folks like onions….#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!bill.onthebeach
Participantdook by 27…
over rated == both teams…
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ParticipantDook rolling at home… up 19 with 15 to play in the second half…
Not DaVille’s week…
The children bear the sins of the father — for three generations…GO PACK!
POP!!!
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!bill.onthebeach
Participant‘hoos by 9
‘HOLES by 4
Hokies by 7Plus 1 for the PACK…
Nobody watching Danny and the Deacs…
Dook and DaVille in the nightcap…POP!!!
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!bill.onthebeach
ParticipantAny know how we missed on Robinson, given he was a local kid?
As I understand it, either Robinson was not on Gott’s list or Gott was not on Robinson’s list…
But… I’ll bet a dollar than if Robinson was a Freshman at Broughton this year, State would be on his list…————————-
How many of Yurt7’s fouls last night were committed more than 15ft from the basket or on a switch in the paint on somebody else’s man ?
————————-Keatts in the post game fluffer with Gary and Tony last night…
When asked about the first Four Minutes… Keatts replied…
“I thought most of the team was still in Winston-Salem….”
And when asked “What did you say to Torin Dorn in the locker room at halftime?”
Remember, Dorn went scoreless in the first half and came out and hit 5 for 5…Keatts replied…
“I’m prohibited from answering that question.”
OK! So let’s see… we’re F-Ugly, we Win and we’re Funny, too….
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Bottom line for this team is this….
Pick one… any one thing
Shooting
Rebounds
Outside Defense
Inside DefenseSome times we can do two things at the same time… like in this game, Stop Robinson, hit some threes…
BUT haven’t got a snowball’s chance at doing three..
And then there’s that KILLER INSTINCT thing…
With 3 to play plus the ACCT, we should be looking closely to see how much of “The Total Package” we can put in place, without unFUgling the FUgly and if we can keep our sense of humor….
We’ll need our A Game to beat the Noles….
GO PACK!
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!bill.onthebeach
ParticipantWell… that took a lot longer than it was supposed…
Good job H8R… you got the numbers right all the way…
formating and style needs more practice… but you got to personalize that for yourself….—————-
I see we went with Option 1 and Option3 of the BOTB gameplan….
Stop Robinson
Play FUGLY for 40
Out score ’em…
—————-Shows you want 52% — 11/21 — from behind the line can do for you…
BUT…
16 turnovers
22 Offensive Rebounds by BC…is FUGLY by any standard…
Bottom line for this team is this….
Pick one… any one thing… and we can do that thing…
Shooting
Rebounds
Outside Defense
Inside DefenseSome times we can do two things at the same time… like in this game, Stop Robinson, hit some threes…
BUT haven’t got a snowball’s chance at doing three..
And then there’s that KILLER INSTINCT thing…
These two things will determine how we go the rest of this season…
GO PACK!
SMOKE if you got ’em…
POP!!!
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!bill.onthebeach
ParticipantI’ll take Keatts at his word for now, as I’m sure he did his own ‘vetting’ on the Wolfpack before he took the job…
Still.. NOT really means Not yet…
Crossing my fingers that we stay out of the cross hairs…
Of course, consistently being the Champions of Tobacco Road ain’t gonna help that…GO PACK!
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!bill.onthebeach
ParticipantTwo many topics talking about the same thing today…
Moving this here…
Listen once you get below like 100 or so in the power ranking you’re pretty much splitting hairs aren’t you?
To expand this line of reasoning…you are splitting hairs between 5 and 10…and 20 and 35…and 40 to 60. What is the Vegas line if these teams played each other….a point?! (Many times in the contradictory direction!)
Said another way, popular rankings (RPI, coaches, AP poll, BPI) imply a linear relationship but as Goldenchain points out, this is not reality. In some ways the quadrant system reduces this issue because it cohorts wins/losses though that argument does not hold up because there is a circular reference and therefore a non-sequitur.
The only folks that have any business ranking teams are the Vegas odds-makers. Those quant ex-Wall Street guys that set the books are breathtakingly accurate. Hire them and call it a day…(although of course Vega loves these silly rankings which are used by dumb money bettors to inform opinions.)
Summing up…
1. No relationship is truly ‘linear’ in a mathematical sense…
2. Who has the time, the data set and the mathematically ability to define the curves? Which lead s to the old saying (before computers)…
3. Figures (numbers) don’t lie and Liars don’t figure… Which is total BS in today’s world…
4. A creative numbers guy can make the numbers say what he wants them to say… In fact, the MORE complicated something is explained, the greater the probability is that it’s hiding some sh$t (lies — i.e. cell phone bills, for one… ) … Occam would love the perversion here… Nevertheless…
5. Given two arguments about the same topic — one with numbers and a one without numbers… most people today will choose the argument with numbers…
Which is why the ‘Eye Test’ is required…
There’s ‘Elegant’ Math and ‘BS’ Math…
Unfortunately. to do the ‘Eye Test’… you have to know something about what you’re looking at…
Same could be said about what you see on the court and what the Ranking Numbers say…
And that’s all I need to say about that…
except..Playing with numbers is a lot of fun and can, at times and within boundaries, be quite useful…
POP!!!#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!bill.onthebeach
Participantthis has a fundamentally different feel
In a word… “YES!”
While both had no where to go but Up… Gott, his first year, had more ‘talent’ with five than Keatts has with ten….
For the record, and hopefully the last time, Gott’s biggest ‘problems’ were across town, not in the gym, at least until they spilled over…
GO PACK!
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!bill.onthebeach
Participantthe degree of difficulty numbers are relative among the four teams…
to put that in perspective a bit — ‘hoos = 11…
minimum acceptable is an updated number as of 2/19/18…
sorry for the confusion…
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#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!bill.onthebeach
ParticipantTaking this back to the top…
Another great job of crunching and explaining the numbers…
Thanks! VaWolf…It all comes down to who wins and who loses the next two weeks…
While we’ll stay focused on the PACK and the ACC… it may be that the door the PACK goes thru to the Dance is opened by what some teams we don’t know do the next two weeks, not the other ACC teams…
VaWolf… you don’t have a short (3-4) list of those teams in your pocket, do you?
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#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!bill.onthebeach
ParticipantAs I see it…
1. B.OTB Degree of Difficulty on our 4 remaining games…
BC at home = 1.5
FSU at home = 3.5
GT on the road = 1.0
UL at home= 2.54-0 is entirely possible… beating the NOLES will be the key…
3-1 is the minimum acceptable performance…2. Dook will beat the Holes in Cameron… either way they’ll probaly be in the same bracket in the ACCT
3. Abu should sit on Senior Day…
4. Ain’t nuttin’ wrong with a little dreaming…
The only problem I see with this dream is it puts us in the same bracket in the ACCT as the ‘hoos…
I’d rather lose to ’em in the Championship game than the semi-finals…
At 3-1… In RPI terms on paper, we’d be trading a loss to FSU or Louisville for a win over Clempsom, Dook or the HOLES…That said, it no uncertain terms… I’d love for us the beat the Noles by Twenty…
So let’s do that! And hope we stay out of the ‘hoos bracket…
GO PACK!
byob-B.OTB#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!bill.onthebeach
Participant^ It’s probably better to let the dead stay buried…
But I feel compelled to say this…
“Bobby Lutz” coached a lot of STATE kids up. <period>First you learn the ‘rules’ then you learn how and when to break them….
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#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!bill.onthebeach
ParticipantLet THIS sink in…
Four Games left in the ACC Regular Season…
THREE at Home…We’ve won 18 games so far this season…
Keatts and THESE GUYS with TWENTY WINS…
IMPOSSIBLE — Right ???F’UGLY has gott this sh#t in the Bag!
POP!!!
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!bill.onthebeach
ParticipantTroll…
Road Teams are 4-0 today in the ACC…What’s the line on the Holes v. Da’Ville tonight…
Cheaters v. Cheaters….
GO CARDS!
POP!!!
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!bill.onthebeach
ParticipantFrom the Box Score…
Out rebounded 36-44
12 Turnovers
15 second chance pts by the Deacs in the second half…AND FOUR Wolfpackers in Double Digits…
TEAM F’UGLY !!!
Mater Man! Are you happy ???
POP!!!
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!bill.onthebeach
ParticipantWe are Regular Season Champions of Tobacco Road at 3-1 !!!
Check that Tony…
We’re 4-1 on Tobacco Road…
TWO POPS !!!
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!bill.onthebeach
ParticipantBALLGAME…
Smoke IF you got ’em…
WOLFPACK Wins On The Road Again!
The Hard Way….On the Big Board
PACK 90
DEACS 84Some of ya’ll worry too much…
F’Ugly Wins Games…You got to win by a little before you win by alot…
It’s Ice Cream Time! and …
We are Regular Season Champions of Tobacco Road at 3-1 !!!The Ghosts on the South Smoking Porch are smiling, sipping bourbon and chewing cigars…
GO PACK!
POP!!!
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!bill.onthebeach
ParticipantNote to State: I’m fine if you make these endings boring.
I understand your sentiment completely but…
Nothing ’bout that is F’Ugly..GO PACK!
POP!!!
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!bill.onthebeach
ParticipantOne more STOP please!
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ParticipantONE MINUTE!
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ParticipantMARKELL win 10 assists… again!
POP!!!
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ParticipantNote to file…
Keatts traded ‘stopping Crawford’ for ‘offensive rebounds’ in the second half…
TWO MINUTES to glory…
ONE STOP RIGHT NOW!!!POP!!!
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