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Yep 132 and the Totem Zone with elephant out front.
I spent more time in Red Dogs and the Palm Room but Goody Goody House was good for a quick lunch while in HS.
Isn’t Princeton down somewhere near Tarboro ??
Another “Crumpler-type RB” would be nice…
As for UNC-w … WalMart is just as close and twice as big…
Yes it is. I was sticking with the Ivy League reference not the actual football recruiting reference he so well played.
The KMART is or was right beside UNCWussy while the Walmart is down the road. Spent many a nights playing tennis on the campus while in high school. Probably learned more staring into the net dumbly than most of the students learned while attending class (or pretend to attend). But the girls were always nice.
Sidney was the point, but there was no question that Whittenburg was the leader of that team
Wufpup just put in writing why I was so WTF at the Lowe hiring. Having been around that team Whitt would have been the guy I gambled house money on if I was going to do something as stupid as what we did.
Typical state fan bi-polar reaction. Yes, we played horrible. Yes, we lacked effort. Yes, it’s coach’s fault. But how many of you said the same thing about DD earlier this year? Calm down and let the man fix it…
This is the page I am on. Was I happy with the game yesterday? Hell no! Do I see and understand what needs to be done to improve? Yes but only to the extent that I am not at practice everyday. Another Valvano story – he used to have open walk through practices before games in Carmichael Gym. I recall listening and watching him and having the light bulb go off as to why he did certain things in game situations and how he rotated the lineup that would have been WTF if I had not been at the practice.
I don’t know that Gott can be a legendary coach but I think he might could build a consistent top 20 program with higher potential. That is really all Valvano did. Sloan built a top notch program but around three guys for a few years. Before and after that he was basically a top 20 with high potential also. Valvano happens to stand out cause he was so damn personable.
After the hell we went through at hands of UNC BOT and our own administration and then the bad coaches (although I really hoped Sid would have worked out but I never thought it would) I hate too see Gott elevate us to some respectability and then get torn apart by a Herb like situation. I think the last three years has earned him at least two more and to see what he has in the tank. I ain’t giving up yet but he has a lot to fix.
I also suspect I know where this thing is headed. It’s not going to be pretty. The only question is how long it takes to play out and how much staff and player churn happens until the fan base sees the obvious.
I think so as well. I envision another Herb rift in the fanbase type occurance.<br>
I think Gott could be an upper tier coach with some changes but he does not seem willing or able to make those changes.If people are thinking think Gott = Herb at this point in his NC State career than I will agree there will be a rift. From day one Herb never showed me anything that I liked as a coach or person. If you can honestly say that about Gott than I have to respect your opinion but I don’t have to agree.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>ancsu87 wrote:</div>
I read all this before right after the BC football game.One of my pet peaves is posters who take the lazy way out by making wide generalizations about large groups of posters that are rarely accurate instead of actually addressing the issues being brought up.
Tractor got it. I see the flaws and issues like anybody else. However it is a long journey to March and the team is a work in progress. I just assumed we would have to search for our offensive identify for 2/3rd of the season after losing a player like TJ.
I watched all the football posts but kept my mouth shut. After seeing some of the same posters go from DD sucks to DD “can suck the chrome off a bumper” I decided to just point out that one fact. You can do with it what you want.
FWIW I clearly recall sitting in Mitch’s Tavern after some of Valvano’s WTF losses and listened to people wanting to tell him what lineups to use or thst we need to fire him.
Ron Cherry couldn’t hold Teddy Valentine’s jock.
Now, if those two coaches didn’t really like each other, then I might consider asshattedness afoot.
LMAO.
These days, journalism comes in two flavors: Sensationalized or Partisan. And often the flavors are mixed together.
The blame for that lies with the mass media companies. For decades, news was a loss leader for the likes of the three major networks and their radio counterparts. They knew it wasn’t going to be a profit center, but instead, a prestige center. Then, one of them (I believe it was ABC) decided to merge their news and entertainment divisions and make their news profitable. That meant it had to be entertaining. Enter in the requirement for sensationalized journalism. See Don Henley’s “Dirty Laundry” for more information:
We can do the innuendo, we can dance and sing<br>
When it’s said and done, we haven’t told you a thing<br>
We all know that crap is king, give us dirty laundryThen along came cable news, and their partisan alignments. Fox for Republicans, MSNBC for Democrats, CNN for idiots. Everything that those networks report is filtered through the lens of their particular political dogma. One, for example is now claiming that $2 a gallon gas is bad for America after saying $4 a gallon gas was bankrupting the country only 18 months ago. It’s hysterical at best, but in reality it is simply everything being political to that network. Everything. And all they do is Partisan Journalism, period.
Neither of those things can be blamed on any college. They don’t teach that in J-School. The graduates learn it, however, when they go to work. They have to if they want to keep their jobs. Journalists are like everyone else…they learn what they learn in college, but when they get their jobs, they find that what they were taught at their alma mater ain’t how it works in the real world.
I agree with you on the merger of news and entertainment but I cannot agree that they teach investigative news versus “entertainment and partisam journalism”. We certainly have forgot to teach independent thinking and being responsible for yourself. You just have to interview new graduates to see this clearly.
1) Great column, good lesson in “can’t we just say, great job this year” and simply focus on the positives for a little while.<br>
2) If you can’t consistently take pleasure in ANY KIND OF TARHOLE rundown/dumpsterfire then you haven’t been a State fan long enough! Pleasure in this stuff does not equal lowering our expectations. It’s just FUN dude!!!!!Could not agree more. Should not be so complicated.
I think this speaks more about our current educational system from top to bottom including those really really hard journalism schools that teach independent thinking, fact verification and making a story fit the facts not make-up the facts to fit your own story. I mean you UNC-CH of the inflated GPA. LMAO.
How can any team look good with our STAR….Ronald “Giving HIM the Business” Cherry calling the game.
You got to wonder….and I mean, REALLY WONDER…..
I find it hard to believe one incompetent red can cause a team to avg about 1 yard per offensive play.
I am hard pressed to call it douchey or classless. I think leading up to bowl both coaches paid tribute to the old Southwest Conf and the rivalry. That symbol is a tradition for Razorbacks fans and think he wa ms just playing to his fan base and the old school rivalry.
If DD gives the pack symbol while shaking Hat’s hand you are going to call him a douche?
He might have been responding to the classless Tx players media comments. Living in Tx I am hard pressed to feel for any Longhorn fan thinking someone else is classless.
A student athlete transferring to Yale of all places clearly has his future mapped out and what a path that will be for him. This is an obvious case of a young man preparing himself the best way he’s sees fit to pursue a prestigious education for a career that will inevitably end up more likely in a court room than on a football field Sunday afternoons. No need for anyone on here to feel shunned or whatever else, this was not a football decision and other than missing his talents on the field has no reflect on NC State football. Quit bitching and crying like a bunch of school girls and wish the guy well.
I did not see anyone bitching and crying like a bunch of school girls.
It is his decision and wish him all the best. Just wondering if he already made this decision why not announce it so it was public knowledge before Hughes made his decision.
Having worked with chemical engineers and MBA’s from the “elite” schools he will be well served to remember his working class roots and lowly non-elite education. Just my opinion but I will take the cheaper and realistic education NC State gave me over the elite education of theory.
DirecTV will launch additional channels including Fusion (a joint venture between ABC News and Univision), — Great now I catch Executive Orders speeches!!
Where the hell are all the ignoranttrollswithsomebodyelsesnumbersintheirusernames who said…<br>
Coach DD was over his head ?Show your faces now…
It was said it was a successful season. What more do you want? LOL
And really, Gott’s teams have taken a while to gel. It seems like every year, we’re out of the tournament, and then go on a run to end the season and squeak in. This team just feels like it has a lot of potential to me.
Have to agree with this assessment of Gott’s teams and this year’s team potential. I find it interesting and encouraging that the defense looks improved and SFN seems to agree since we are bitching about the offense performance mostly.
I recall Valvano always used to say the reg season conf title was not his goal. He wanted to improve and peak in March and win an ACCT and go into NCAA on a roll. Of course this was also his dig at CW Dean always crowing about reg season titles.
In the early part of the season people would scratch their head and wonder where Valvano got his rotations from. By the end of the year he had a pattern and some of the “goofy” ones actually came to play against NCAAT foes with different skill sets and physical play than the ACC. I think Gott coaches in a similar way.
KW reminds me of a long ago left hander we had named Russell Pierre. I loved his energy, rebounding and defense but some of his 12-15 ft shots almost broke the backboard.
Perception isn’t reality. So basically you are ok that the media and democratic officials are only concerned with excessive police force against the voter block they have a stronghold on.
Yes I knew he was killed ~ 130 ft from the car. Are you aware he had powder residue on his hands and the gun went off in the officers SUV?
Good article on the cameras. I think it is a skippy slope to all of us wearing cameras eventually but I can’t say at this time I am against it especially if it provides evidence that stops the flame whippers and media from inciting riots with speculation and lies. However judging from the AL case I would say there still will be arguments over “concrete evidence”.
I just want to know why the Brown case became some flammable and why the media and “leaders” are not held accountable for the flame whipping.
No assaulting an office in his car was what got Mike Brown gunned downed.
Look I could make a case for an indictment of Wilson but not before the case in AL. The kid was naked. Pretty easy to see he was unarmed and crazy. Why did not the AG go investigate that case? Why didn’t people riot?
The USA surveillance video had no audio. The collar cams with video were on the two officers that arrived AFTER he was first shot. Regardless in this case there was video evidence of non aggression to the police office yet no indictment. Being that this was campus police and the video I find that hard to understand but even more concerned where the moral outrage is at. You are not focusing on the big picture or the people behind the strings.
