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I do think we’re making progress, but Wake and BC are Sun Belt level teams this season.
If the Pack can stay in the game into the second half next weekend, I’d be more inclined to say that this is significant progress. It’s looking more and more like an 8-win season would be the mark of improvement this season.
I guarantee that if you polled all who buy season tickets in the PNC as to whether or not they liked State or NC State better, State would win by a mile.
Why did we ever change it in the first place? Ever since we did, we’ve basically had nothing but trouble in this program.
It sure works well for Michigan State. If you’re good enough, you shouldn’t have to explain it to those who are geographically challenged.
Bring back the State jerseys and KEEP them!
What else would you expect from a league that suspended the referee crew for blowing the call that determined the winner of the game, yet let the final score stand because the result can’t be changed?
Yes indeedy, folks, this is John Swofford’s “New And Improved ACC” at its best.
I thought BOTH onside kicks were bonehead calls. You just can’t give a team like Clemson two straight possessions on your own 40 and expect to have a chance to win.
My prediction had been 49-35, about what I expected. I did not like the N&O sports headline “Clemson Stomps State” one bit.
I expect a 2-2 split for the remainder of the season and another bowl game vs a non-Power Five opponent. Might be ECU.
What I still can’t understand about college football replay review is that some things can be changed and others can’t, even when you have the undeniable evidence in front of you on video. Either do all of it or none of it. I’ve had it up to here with reviews; just call the damned play on the field and get on with it. The delays are taking the fun out of the game for the fans, and many times they can’t get it right on the replay review anyway. We’re getting to the point that we don’t need refs anymore.
I agree with StateFans’ assessment that Duke never scored the go-ahead TD with 6 seconds remaining. From every angle I saw, clearly the ball never touched the plane of the end zone. I don’t know if the final play was legit or not, but to me it was clearer that a TD was scored then than on Duke’s final drive.
Disagree. I think this team has a real shot at the top 4 in the league. With me there cheering for them at all the home games, how can they miss?
I have a slightly different take on our scores being big plays rather than sustained drives. Since CTC left, it seems we seldom have had big plays anymore, and I thought this made us a dangerous and unpredictable team. In the past few years, it seems to me we never scored except on long drives, which meant that there were few long runbacks, interceptions or special teams big plays.
I see big plays as emerging talent on this team. Lord knows we need more talent than we’ve shown in the past few seasons. We sure as heck won’t be competitive next Saturday if we depend on long, sustained drives, although I’ll admit that the longer we keep the ball out of Clemson’s hands, the better off we are.
But really, the best and probably only chance we have of winning the Halloween game will be punt returns, kickoff returns, interceptions and turnovers.
It’s time for everyone’s least favorite LTR fan to chime in.
First and foremost, this is probably good for the NCSU football program, considering how long it’s seemingly been since we played a decent OOC opponent. OK so far.
Second, but not of minor importance, however, is the fact that we have invested all this effort and money into fuh-cility upgrades, but we seem to be more interested in playing our key OOC games in distant cities. I remember Alabama and Ohio State coming here, but honestly, I can’t remember ANYBODY from a Power Five conference visiting C-F in the past ten or more seasons. I sold my tickets this season because I’m tired of the OOC teams we bring in from distant places we’ve seldom heard of. We haven’t met Duke, in what, 5 or 6 seasons now? But we can play South Alabama and ODU multiple times over the same period, and even on the road.
I probably won’t go to the Charlotte game, although I’ve been to many of our games there, and I did enjoy them. But I’ve spent enough of my money in Charlotte, thank you.
I guess my problem with this is that we need to be bringing teams like the Gamecocks into C-F instead of meeting them on a distant field, which should be a bowl game and not a regular-season game. The cost of these “neutral” field games for the average fan is pretty steep, and the corporates usually get the good seats.
My big problem with this “new and improved” ACC is that the new ACC teams like BC and Syracuse have been forced onto our annual schedule and are not EVER going to be true rivals. I just don’t see how we can establish any kind of a rivalry playing SC or anyone else in Charlotte or Atlanta. I agree with playing SC; we should do that every year, home and away, or we should re-establish the Maryland game annually if that’s no feasible. I think it’s especially important that we develop an OOC home-and-away rivalry in light of the ACC killing our rivalries with Duke, UVA and GT, as well as not allowing us to develop sure-fire rivalries with VT and Miami.
Bring ’em to Raleigh, not to Charlotte and Atlanta.
What a pessimistic bunch!
Take heart! We will probably go 2-6 in the ACC this season, but we’ll still have the fuh-cilities!
I don’t think Doeren is going anywhere soon. I’m not an X-and-O guy, but judging from the material we’ve got on the field, I don’t know who else would do much better right now, other than a handful of coaches like Nick Saben, Jim Harbaugh, Urban Meyer or Bob Stoops.
I’ll repeat it- until NC State gets a REAL quarterback, and not an upperclassman red shirt, our program isn’t likely to start showing significant improvement. If b-ball doesn’t have a good point guard, it’s the same thing for football without a good QB.
I am not knocking Brissett. He is trying to play a position that he’s not cut out to play at a high level. If he had decent speed, he might pull it off, but let’s face it- even with a good group of receivers, it’s doubtful that he could pass us to a lot of wins.
Mike London has taken UVA football into the toilet for over half a decade now, but for some reason administrators there are determined that they can make him into a successful football coach. With the long tenures of Herb Sendek, Sidney Lowe and Tom O’Brien at NCSU, who overstayed their welcome for many seasons, I don’t expect our administrators to act much differently. Education administrators seem loathe to fire mediocre coaches.
If we don’t start winning some recruiting wars, I just don’t see much change for us, given that the ACC has put us in an almost impossible position in the Atlantic Division.
I am all in agreement on foose’s proposed division re-alignment. This keeps the long-time ACC teams together and ditto for the old Big East teams, with geography actually mattering.
Swofford needs to go; only then will a sensible re-alignment ever get discussed.
I could live with the current alignment IF we could play cross-division rivals at least every other season. As I’ve ranted before, why does NC State play South Alabama 3 times during a stretch when we don’t even play Duke period? And during that period, we HAVE to play BC and Syracuse each season.
Look at this week’s ACC matchups. There are 3 really good ones but the rest of them are simply godawful.
I have sat out this football season primarily because of the idiot schedule.
I believe the Clemson-Louisville game was in Louisville, not Clemson.
Still, Louisville is a solid, well-coached team. This could be Frank Beamer’s last season in Blacksburg. State needs to take care of VT while the Gobblers are down. If they don’t, this could well be one miserable October.
I’ll be surprised if the Pack doesn’t win this one.
I think our defense continues to improve and that’s good, but I don’t think we can build the level of success at NC State that we desire by bringing in transfer QBs.
Most all successful Wolfpack teams from the past were built around long-term quarterbacks who were natural QBs and not running backs thrust into that position. I just don’t think we’ll ever build a successful football program using transfer players at key positions.
And for Thornton, his presence today wouldn’t have made much difference with our O line and their defense.
Now, the Pack has got to get ready to win on the road, or this season may go south quickly.
More good news from 13OT here. The ODU game is being televised tomorrow night on Channel 48 in Greensboro. I didn’t see it listed on any of the Triangle tv stations per the local paper, however. Maybe this is because 48 carries CAA games (Elon).
If you’re in the Triangle area and have an outdoor antenna, preferably one of the old UHF ones, you can point it toward Randleman (south of Greensboro) and get most of the Triad tv stations, and 48 comes in most all the time in HD.
Seems like the game should be televised here if it’s being televised in Greensboro.
No, Cowdog, I did NOT look. I may look when the high school portion of our schedule is over, but not before.
Until State faces a quality opponent, which won’t be until the Louisville game, these stats mean little.
Like Dizzy Dean said, they’re just statics.
The comment about the police being out of control has no place on this website. Period.
I for one am SICK of liberal politics everywhere I go nowadays. My son is a ref and I hope they throw the book at the two lowlifes who biindsided this ref. As for the lowlifes who are killing cops, their numbers far outweigh the number of police who are “out of control”. Blaming the cops for the numbers of shootings posted is like blaming the refs for the assaults against them.
Enough already, kappa. Take it someplace else!
