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The fuh-cilities!
12/30/2016 at 12:36 PM in reply to: Rider?? I Barely Even Know Her!! Game Thread (7:00, ESPN3) #11319913OTParticipantThe cupcake phase of the season is over. No more small schools to beat up at home. I’ve been to most of the home games so far, and there are some encouraging signs. But……….ACC play is upon us, and first up is a road game vs a team that is our equal but with a superior coach. That hasn’t worked very well in the past, but you play ’em anyway.
And as far as no Rider headlines in Thursday’s paper, I got no write-up in the N&O that day either, nor did I get a write-up in today’s paper, just a box score. It’s a sorry paper indeed that can’t even get an NCSU score, let alone a write-up, in next-day’s edition, on a game that ended at 9pm. And I don’t live 150 miles away on the beach; my house is in Raleigh, almost within walking distance of the locations where the paper is published and printed.
The N&O is one sorry piece of crap, all commentary and NO news if it happened after 6pm the previous day. So much for improved technology. But there’s plenty of print space to worship and adore their favorite Muslim.
13OTParticipantIt was interesting to me to hear Jay (Jason) Williams last night, when ESPN was talking about the trip, and the “dirty” Julius Hodge’s name came up. Of all the names he could have pulled up, why Hodge?
But no mention of the Chris Paul sucker punch to Hodge.
If respect came in human form for NC State, it would be Rodney Dangerfield.
13OTParticipantThis sure looks like the cake I grew up with, thanks to two “old maid” aunts who could cook with the best of ’em. I’m going to copy this recipe and will give it a shot after the Christmas and New Year’s holidays have passed.
I have to put in a plug, though, for the best “commercial” coconut cake I’ve eaten to date. Anyone who lives in the Triangle area has probably heard of the Meadow Village Restaurant, located at the junction of NC highways 50 and 96 in southern Johnston County. Except for what tastes like a little bit of sour cream, their coconut cake tastes a lot like Bass’ cake, and they do use real coconut and not the bagged stuff from grocery stores. That cake (and their chocolate pie) is well worth the 40-mile trip down there, not to mention the country buffet. Not huge, but everything on the buffet is Grade-A quality. And yes, the secret is the moistness of the cake itself, thanks to the coconut milk.
And the Meadow dessert bar……oh my!
13OTParticipantGuilty until proven innocent.
13OTParticipantLike the Les, HWSNBN and Lowe teams, this Wolfpack team will go only as far as its talent will take it.
State teams are interested primarily in one thing- dunking the basketball.
This time might finish at .500 in the ACC.
But wait ’til next year!
13OTParticipantWhat could possibly be better than attending a December 26 Wolfpack football game in Shreveport?
Good luck in selling THIS holiday season turkey, Ms. Yow.
13OTParticipantI also would like to see the AD fired, but with a last name of Yow, I’m not holding my breath. The NCAA’s asinine decision to suspend Omer Yurtseven for 9 games, which was criticized by Jay Bilis and Coach Gottfried, was instead praised by our AD, who was apparently pleased with the resolution of the case. Per the newspaper, she stated “The NCAA conducted a thoughtful analysis of Omer’s situation….”Their staff exhibited considerable concern for fairness and for the welfare of this conscientious young man in their decision.” Whose side is she on?
I don’t want her picking a new coach any more than I want seeing Doeren remain our football coach through 2019. As another “common man LTR seat holder”, I’m probably going to abandon my football seats altogether unless something changes in a hurry. 20 years is enough; and for this school, it’s been beyond the call of duty.
We’ve been bad way too long to drag this out any longer. We don’t need 4 more games (or seasons) to change the painful fact that this program, at best, is among the bottom-feeders of the Power 5 conference football members. Worse yet, I see no hope whatsoever of this changing anytime soon.
And as far as beating Notre Dame is concerned, Matthew had as much to do with that as Dave.
13OTParticipantOne of the worst things about the last two games is that both were televised nationally, not regionally, on ABC. Our program looks disorganized and lost, and it’s doubtful that any decent potential recruits would look at us as one they’d like to be a part of.
I drove through Louisville and Kentucky early Saturday afternoon on my way back home from Kansas (a level we’re headed for fast), and listened to most of the game on WHAS (Louisville network). It was awful. They pretty much dismissed us as just another game that mattered little. The papers there had little to say about football; the focus was on basketball and possible sanctions.
The BC game, which we will probably win, will prove little if we do, regardless of by how much we win. The real possibility of going go oh-for-November gives Wolfpack fans little to look forward to. This program isn’t even holding steady anymore; it’s moving, slowly but surely, downhill. I know we don’t have top-shelf talent, but if we are good enough to throw one away at Clemson, then we shouldn’t be pounded the following week. This is like Texas and Baylor back in the day, except that we’re now losing both games instead of winning when we shouldn’t and being blown out when we should win.
At best I see 5-7, and that’s only because of a hurricane. And then what will the AD say? More importantly, what will the fan base, the ticket-buying portion, say? MUST we retain not only a mediocre coaching staff, but a mediocre AD as well, for another season? Or two? Or three? This pattern of HOPING for improvement, with absolutely no other reason than blind faith to support this hope, is taking this program into the toilet.
If we don’t soon flush the responsible parties, this program, which is already circling the bowl, will be flushed. If a change doesn’t come next season, I plan to flush my LTR football tickets. It’s like Einstein said, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is blah blah blah………
13OTParticipantI remember going to the Georgia Tech game the day after Fran blew through in September, 1996. It was a numbskull thing to play that game, but that’s the risk you take when you buy football tickets nowadays. Call off a Saturday noon game being shown on ABC? Are you kidding me?
I also remember Hazel in October, 1954. If this storm is anything like Hazel, and hits here Saturday morning, this game won’t be played because no one will be able to stand up on the field, if they even make it there.
Talk about another way the Pack can get blown off the field…………..
13OTParticipantThe Ward Transformer PCB dump was over a very wide area. I know that it was dumped all around Angier, and I know some people there who died of cancer years before they should’ve, if then. I also got lost on the Fort Bragg Post one late night, back in the mid-70s when trying to find a short cut from Laurinburg to Angier. I rode around that base for hours without seeing a single soul, and the PCB black streaks beside the road were rampant. I finally managed to find someone and stopped to ask directions as to how to get off the base.
Now, I’d probably be in Fort Leavenworth if I pulled that stunt today.
13OTParticipantWith the current NCSU AD, I’d doubt that even a good high school coach would want to come here to coach football.
13OTParticipantThis conservative has not abandoned McCrory, and I don’t think most NC voters have either. I well remember the 1984 election, when Jim Hunt was certain to unseat Jesse Helms, and despite the polls, the “quiet” voters showed up at the polls and gave Helms a decisive win.
I just don’t think the pollsters today have a clear understanding of the depth of the resentment of the “deplorable” voters, who are tired of having the LGBTQ agenda and the Barack Obama/Hillary Clinton political agenda crammed down their throats. If Amendment One could pass by nearly 63% of the vote, I don’t buy the media’s insistence that everybody hates HB2. Cooper may be hitched to the wrong wagon here.
The deplorable voters are an extremely motivated group, the most motivated I’ve seen a conservative base since 1980 and probably more-so than then. I see a GOP sweep here in NC.
13OTParticipantIf you’re looking for the whole story in The Charlotte Observer (or Raleigh’s News & Observer), forget it. Since the ultra-liberal McClatchy group from California bought these papers a few years ago, they’re become essentially a left political arm of the Democrat Party, with news and sports scores being replaced by commentary, both political and sports. And WRAL-5 has become almost as bad. These outlets will tell you only what they want you to know, and will do their best to shape your opinion into the way they think.
The best example of this is the hammering of HB2, much of which goes in the sports pages. Like the NCAA and now the ACC, who want to force you to think like they do, the papers and tv media are pushing the same agenda, but it’s not working too well right now for the newspapers. And it may backfire on the NCAA and ACC as well. If the elitist leaders of these institutions continue to push their views on the fans by punishing those who dare think differently, a lot of fans might just say “To hell with it!” and hand in their season tickets. I’ll certainly consider it.
As for the rioting, I’ve seen as much of this as many of you, and nothing ever seems to change. The larger cities seem to draw nitwit politicians and government officials in droves, as well as malcontents who roam the night in search of something to pillage and burn at the first suggestion of something that offends them. Obedience to the law be damned! Charlotte apparently isn’t any different (don’t forget who was behind the Charlotte-Mecklenburg bathroom ordinance in the first place). The only thing I’ve heard from the “protesters” so far that I agree with is that the Charlotte mayor needs to be fired. 10-4 that! What needed to be done right off the bat was to call out the National Guard after that first night of rioting, and then slapping an ENFORCED dusk-to-dawn curfew on the city.
And McCallum, your above concrete example of white privilege is spot on! Where they need to put these thugs is in the middle of the Charlotte Motor Speedway on Memorial Weekend.
13OTParticipantMost will agree that Cutcliffe is a better coach than Doeren, but this doesn’t mean that Doeren needs to be strung up. Someone at State does, but it ain’t the head football coach.
Cutcliffe is fortunate that Duke is in the Coastal Division. If Duke and State were switched, I doubt Cut would have had nearly the degree of success he’s had so far. The ACC Atlantic Division is a death sentence for every team who’s not FSU, Clemson or Louisville. Every team in the Coastal Division has a reasonable chance of winning that division, but even the good SEC teams would struggle to consistently win the ACC Atlantic.
I don’t think State will ever compete for a Division football title until three things happen: 1) they get a competent AD; 2) they get a big-name coach who can recruit the level of talent needed to compete against FSU and Clemson; and 3) ACC football realignment puts FSU and Clemson in separate divisions.
Until this happens, or unless we land another Philip Rivers-level QB who flew under everybody else’s radar, we’re probably going to be playing at best for a .500 ACC finish and a mid-tier bowl. Apparently enough Wolfpack fans are satisfied, happy or not, with this, and it’ll likely be more of the same next season.
Given this season’s schedule and the talent level of this team and coaching staff, an overall .500 record is about what I expect. Even beating Notre Dame on October 8 won’t guarantee a successful season.
The more things change, the more they remain the same.
13OTParticipantBest road trip this season will be B’s BBQ in Greenville.
13OTParticipantHillsborough Street is but part of the effort by a bunch of Raleigh NITWITS to make the city like Chapel Hill. Bicycle lanes are replacing traffic lanes on busy 4-lane streets all around the city, and the traffic circle (rotary, roundabout) at the Bell Tower rivals the one near Pinehurst for sheer idiocy and traffic nightmares.
I avoid Hillsborough Street whenever possible. If the circle doesn’t get you, the lane takedowns will, as well as the barriers down the middle of the street. Despite the traffic crawl this has created, I believe that pedestrians who try to cross Hillsborough near the circle will be taking their lives into their own hands due to the unpredictability of the cars coming off the circle. If they can afford to put a massive (and mostly useless) footbridge over the Beltline, then why can’t an engineering school put one across Hillsborough Street (or Western Boulevard)? After all, don’t city officials want more people coming on foot to visit this area? You sure as hell can’t park anywhere anymore, especially with the big buildings going up.
Sadly, function isn’t a word in the Raleigh city planners’ vocabulary. It’s all about MONEY.
13OTParticipantHaving worked at various Wake County voting sites for over a decade, I was more concerned with provisional ballots than voter ID. ANYONE could enter a Wake polling place and demand to be allowed to vote, and they would have to be given a provisional ballot to vote, even if they appeared to be well under age 18. And because election boards and most of the poll workers here tend to run on the liberal side per my experience with them, there is no guarantee just what happens to those provisional ballots when they’re sent in on election night. Can you say Broward, Dade or Palm Beach Counties? I wasn’t in favor of photo ID when I worked the polls (and no longer do), but do think that some kind of ID should be required by every voter on voting day. That’s just common sense. Another problem to me is the lengthy early voting period. If I had my way, voting would be done ONLY on election day.
Too many things are being given away or allowed in this country. And once that happens, you absolutely cannot undo it without being labeled in the worst way.
I have never seen this nation as polarized as it is now. I’d like to say just why, but if I did, there’s no doubt in my mind that this post would be erased. So much for freedom of speech.
13OTParticipantThe real kicking problem that the Wolfpack is having is that everyone in the ACC is kicking their ass almost every season.
13OTParticipantDepth at the QB position to me means little if you don’t have good talent. State might do fairly well with a really good QB, even with mostly mediocre talent like we’ve had for some time. But when you have mediocre QBs AND mediocre talent, like we’ve had now for a while, things probably won’t go well after the ACC schedule begins.
Of the 26 preseason All-ACC picks by position, 18 of these players are from Clemson, FSU and Louisville. This is going to be a tough season for the rest of the ACC Atlantic members, and it could be the toughest on the Pack, who has in addition to playing at Clemson and Louisville on consecutive weeks, games vs UNC and Miami from the Coastal, the two top-ranked teams in that division. And Notre Dame.
Like someone said earlier, this season will probably swing with the October 8 game vs the Irish. This game will likely determine Coach Doeren’s long-term fate here. We could win it, but more than likely we’re going to get pounded by a program that has superior personnel and superior coaching. I’m hoping for the best, but I’m afraid this one is going to be really ugly.
13OTParticipantNotre Dame not joining the ACC HAS forever killed the potential for the 9-game league schedule.
13OTParticipantECU will be in the Big XII when ND is a football member of the ACC.
13OTParticipantND will NEVER join ACC football. They realize they can have their cake and eat it too.
13OTParticipantAgree with the Troll- it’ll probably be 5 wins, 7 losses.
The Pack will win its first 4 games, which they should, and may even flirt with the Top 25 the week of the Notre Dame game. Hopes will be high, but will come down to earth in a rousing thud on October 8. After this one, there will be 2 solid losses on the road and a slight rebound at home against BC. After that, I think the season will end with 4 straight losses, the most damning one being at Syracuse.
That will give the Pack a 2-6 ACC mark, and should put Doeren squarely on the hot seat.
I’m much less versed in football than in basketball, but it seems to me that as long as State doesn’t get a really good QB, they’re going nowhere in the ACC wars. Just think about how bad this program would look now had it not been for all the cupcake small schools that have provided most all of State’s wins, and at home.
Are we going to be stuck with this coaching staff another 3 seasons, or more?
13OTParticipantI think the pattern of undrafted NC State players, many who are just as good or better than UNC and other ACC players who are drafted, shows the lack of respect the NBA scouts have had for our program.
I see most of the top players drafted on the basis of potential talent, like the typical players from Duke, UNC, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisville and a few other schools. When you get deep into the second round, players who don’t have as much talent but do have skills work their way in, mainly the Europeans. The Pack seldom lands a player with First Round talent, and apparently the NBA doesn’t think “marginal” players, like Cat, have the necessary skills to make it. I don’t agree that Cat fits this mold, but that’s the way I think the NBA sees it.
As said before, until we get an AD who gets it about what it’ll take to return to ACC relevance, the same ole same ole will continue for us. Apparently we have a boatload of young and somewhat talented players coming in next season, but somehow I see us still struggling just to get into the upper half of the ACC. And with Lutz gone, that’s a more likely scenario.
I absolutely guarantee that we will finish lower than in pre-season projections.
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