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Years ago, freshmen couldn’t take you to the “promised land” because they were competing against talented seniors. But in the 1990s, those talented seniors ended up in the NBA and now, most of your really talented players don’t get past their sophomore year. Carmello Anthony is one of the few exceptions I can think of from recent years.
Now, I expect more out of frosh and sophs because that’s who they’re competing against. What I saw in the final 10 seconds of last night’s game raised many red flags on this team (maybe the flags were already flying and I just couldn’t see them or WOULDN’T see them, whatever).
In those final seconds, we looked like a Sidney Lowe team on the inbounds play. Why in the world we didn’t keep Vandenberg in the game and simply pack in the defense to prevent a close-in shot is beyond me. The big man’s D isn’t the best I’ve seen, but his presence is well-recognized to those who attack the rim, especially smaller ones.
And in the final 4.whatever seconds, we looked like a HWSNBN team trying to get off a last-second shot. It was Maryland, Boston College, Duke and UNC, all rolled into one frustrating Chinese fire drill.
The real tragedy for the Wolfpack men’s basketball program is that while the Blues are struggling and the Clemsons and Wake Forests are improving, we’re stuck in the mud. Of the 15 schools now in the ACC, 13 of them can claim some success or at least improvement in either football or basketball, or even both. Not us, though.
We’ve arrived at the Boston College level; we’re near or at the bottom in just about everything that really matters to fans, and what’s even worse, there’s nothing on the horizon that suggests a turnaround in either sport, anytime soon.
The passion of two years ago is all but gone. It just sucks being a Wolfpack fan.
I don’t understand why you’d take a 7-footer out of the game in the final 10 seconds when you’re on defense and have a 1-point lead. Wake isn’t exactly a great outside shooting team.
Very frustrating loss to a mediocre team with a lousy coach. Wednesday in the ACCT is growing closer as we speak.
ACC expansion has led to a need for the following:
In football:
1- Division realignment. ACC North will have BC, Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville, UVA, VT and Miami; ACC South will have the Big Four, Clemson, GT and FSU.
2- A 9-game conference schedule, which allows playing each division opponent every season, plus a maximum of 3 consecutive seasons without facing any out-of-division opponent. We do not need to be playing 4 high school level OOC opponents each season.
3- Further (and final) expansion of the conference to 16 teams, to be done within 5-10 years. At that time, all 16 teams MUST be fully participating members, including Notre Dame. If they choose otherwise, they will be replaced. The league’s goal of 16 full and permanent members will put them in position for the likely scenario of four 16-team super conferences.
4- Multiple permanent sites, on a rotating basis, should be chosen for the ACC’s annual title game. Jacksonville, Atlanta, Charlotte and Washington DC would be be my choices- 3 years each and then rotate.In basketball:
1- The establishment of 3 primary playing partners for each team, which would re-unite the Big Four to home-and-away games each season.
2- The establishment of Greensboro, home of the ACC, as one of two permanent sites for the ACC Tournament. The league would be required to help upgrade the Coliseum in order to keep the tourney here. Put the tourney in Greensboro for 3 straight years, then to another location for 3 years, and back to Greensboro. The second site could rotate among cities like New York, Washington DC and Orlando. But due to its heritage and geographical location, Greensboro would and should be the primary locale.
3- Revamp the ACCT to a 4-day event, from Wednesday through Saturday, and include only the top 12 teams. Finishing on Saturday, like in the past, would give the ACC teams an extra day of rest before they began the ACCT.In baseball:
1- Sensible scheduling of rival teams, with each school allowed 2 primary playing partners, which would give each home-and-away series each season. It makes no sense for State and Carolina, for instance, to play only once next season on a neutral field, yet the Pack plays several OOC teams multiple times. It’s bad business and especially bad for the fans.
2- A return to the ACCT double-elimination format. I know some will disagree, but I just don’t like seeing a tourney format that has teams playing a 3rd game that has no bearing whatsoever on who advances.I probably hate ACC expansion more than anyone on this site, but it’s here and we may as well make the best of it. The schools out there, to me, who’d be the best fit for us would be either West Virginia, Central Florida, South Florida and UConn.
If none of these changes happens, especially the rival games and football division re-alignment, then I hope to goodness the Pack can get the hell out of the ACC. I’d rather us play as an independent and control our own schedule instead of continuing to be swept away in the directionless tsunami that the ACC has become, under the control of those who couldn’t care less about teams who aren’t wearing blue.
Saturday night’s game was WTF in the PNC. Except for maybe the final HWSNBN-UNC game in the RBC, it’s easily the worst Wolfpack showing there since they opened the ESA in 1999. Not only were the students leaving midway the second half, even some VIRGINIA fans were leaving, shaking their heads and laughing.
If you want to find where this Wolfpack team really is on your graph, just look somewhere below Boston College and Virginia Tech.
The emotional involvement of the Pack last Saturday night was about as intense as our football season was. When you start 0-2 at home against teams you should at least compete with, that’s a bad omen. Especially bad for us are Wake’s and Clemson’s wins over teams we’re not likely to beat, as if we’re likely to beat anyone else besides Notre Dame. We probably aren’t playing to avoid ACCT Thursday; we’ve almost punched our tickets for ACCT Wednesday. Unless things change quickly, this is where this team’s bubble will burst for the 2013-14 season.
For the ABCers, and I’m one, how can we let ourselves not take advantage of the Heels’ worst start in decades?
I like this young team better than the ego maniacs we had last season, but until the coaching staff has the guts to bench who doesn’t need to be on the floor and put the best five or six players out there for most of the game, this season will continue to look like a YMCA game where everybody plays equal minutes.
I thought that after the Maryland game last November 30, Wolfpack athletics had sunk about as low as they could go, but I may have been wrong. Sooner or later, LTR seatholders like me have got to start asking ourselves (and I have) just how much longer we will continue to financially support a school that hasn’t had an ACC title in revenue sports now in 60 seasons, and currently looks like it couldn’t care less if it’s another 60 seasons before they do finally win one.
The polar bear probably should instead have been a dead opossum, lying in the middle of the road.
Or, maybe more appropriately it should have been done musically, on one side with the ND fight song and on the other with “Dead Skunk In The Middle Of The Road”.
Dead Skunk – Loudon Wainwright 3rd – YouTube
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UejelYnVI3U?Us a BUBBLE team?
The only bubble I saw in Wolfpack basketball this season has already burst.
We might be considered a bubble team to advance past Wednesday’s opening day of the ACCT, but that’s a long shot unless we somehow end up playing Wake Forest or Boston College.
To the NIT I say LOL. To the NCAAT I say ROFLMAO.
The thing that surprised me most about the UNCG game wasn’t the second straight 68-64 game involving the Wolfpack, but rather that the listed attendance was under 6,000.
No matter who State was playing last night, this kind of crowd in a 23,000-seat arena in the heart of ACC country doesn’t bode well for the direction of this basketball program.
Concur 100% with wolfbluff. F Swofford!
To help save the ACC, we no longer get to play Duke, Virginia, Georgia Tech or Clemson twice a year in basketball. We no longer get to play Duke, UVA or GT once a season in football but rather once a decade now. And a further part of saving the league means we get to (again) play ASU 3 times, ECU and Campbell twice, Boston College 3 times, Coastal Carolina 3 times, Notre Dame 3 times, and Maryland 3 times.
Despite setting an all-time ACC single-game attendance record last season, we play UNC once, and on a neutral field at that. It’s way past time to break up the ACC.
This game last night was mainly about good coaching vs bad coaching.
Tennessee looked like our “road kill” teams under the previous two coaches. UT’s 3-point prowess looked like a less-than-memorable performance of a HWSNBN team at Boston College several years ago (3 or 34 from behind the arc?). The Vols continued to make the same mistakes over and over, while their opponent, with less talent and much less experience, repeatedly made them look bad by picking them apart.
If Tennessee wants to improve their football program, they need to take the millions they’re wasting on Cuonzo Martin and put it toward hiring a real football coach.
The jury may be out on whether or not NCSU has a real football coach, but I do believe we may have found us a real basketball coach. Now that Gott finally has an OOC road win, maybe we’re getting on track.
As for our players, I continue to be impressed by the play of our bigs, Kyle Washington and BeeJay Anya.
This video, which on my computer lasted maybe 10 seconds into the supposed 4 minutes before stopping, looks like something pulled from the ACA website.
I think State will eventually be left by themselves in the PNC when the Hurricanes move to another city or fold. When this happens, and I believe it will, it will be time to downsize and get a more user-friendly facility for basketball.
Downtown Raleigh would be the WORST scenario, period. If you think parking at the PNC is expensive now, just let Downtown Raleigh get hold of it.
Had the ESA been built in Downtown Raleigh instead of the State Fairgrounds, I would never have purchased LTRs. The city gurus of Raleigh have already gotten the July 4 fireworks away from the Fairgrounds and moved ’em to Downtown Raleigh. How’s THAT one working out?
My vote for an ACC game at Reynolds is Duke. Why not? We should be playing them at home EVERY season, not once every other year or every 3 years or whatever King John decrees.
On the years we already have Duke at the PNC, I’d vote for Maryland.
Saying that State was 2-9 vs FBS teams is a stretch; does anyone really consider Louisiana Tech and Central Michigan on the same plateau as the ACC schools should be? State would have likely gone 0-12 against any OOC teams from BCS conferences, and would have lost against almost anyone else, especially had those been road games.
If you want REAL bottom teams (programs), look no further than State, UVA, Syracuse and Wake in the ACC; Kansas and Iowa State in the Big XII; Indiana and Purdue in the B1G; Kentucky in the SEC, and Colorado and Cal in the Pac-12.
Most of these will require years of repair, which for some of them would be like trying to fix Obamacare.
Follow the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
Ain’t no place in America with more money than Texas, home of “big oil”.
I’d prefer ‘Bama, but if it’s about money, it’s about Texas!
Wake Forest isn’t the only ACC school I want to see suck out loud, as someone said earlier. I want to see ALL of the ACC schools, except us of course, suck out loud, and lose every time they go OOC.
This is John Swofford’s ACC now. It’s not mine anymore. Why should ANYONE wish good things on the other ACC members? That just makes Swofford look good.
I want to see the ACC look like the Sun Belt Conference in the next decade.
