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We’re number 88?
That’s a big improvement over last season, but we’re a long way from an overall winning season, let alone any meaningful bowls. Saying that our cupboard was left almost bare by TOB was sugar-coating it.
I’ve bought my season tickets for the 19th consecutive season, and although I plan to continue basketball for at least two more seasons, I’m done with football after November 15. I do not see any significant improvement on the gridiron in at least 4 or 5 seasons, if that soon. The Georgia Southern game on August 30 could well ruin our season before it even starts.
They can analyze Wolfpack football 88 different ways, but the problem remains that we simply didn’t have and still don’t have any really good FOOTBALL PLAYERS. Say what you want about the MOC and CTC teams, but at least we did have a few players on the field who could generate geniune excitement and change games with big plays. Not now. If Doeren can’t recruit good players in numbers or at least bring in a few big-play people, he won’t be around as long as his predecessor.
Duke is 20 miles from State, not 35. It’s crazy for us not to play them EVERY YEAR in football. It’s not only bad from a historical rivals standpoint, but it’s also a very bad financial decision. I don’t care if Syracuse has to travel farther; they knew damn well they would when they agreed to join the ACC. Don’t punish us because of Syracuse’s geography.
Another team we should be playing more often is Virginia Tech. Thanks to the divisions, we will never see the Hokies enough to establish a rivalry. I can’t remember the last time we played them. Why do we have to play Boston College EVERY year and never get to play VPI? Besides Clemson, Tech is more like us than any other ACC school in terms of the fan base.
State fans may have lost their perspective as to just how bad we’ve gotten in football in the past decade. We have little if any bargaining power to attract good home opponents, but I honestly believe we’d be better off going on the road against really strong opponents than we are staying home and playing the ODUs, Richmonds, Georgia Southerns, Central Mixhigans, Louisiana-Lafayettes and Troys of the world. As a paying State fan, I’d rather watch us on tv against nationally ranked teams than shell out a hundred bucks for 2 seats to see us play Georgia Southern here.
Especially at noon at the end of August. We will not build a program with this kind of game and exposure (ACC Network), and we might just get our you-know-what’s handed to us on August 30. We don’t need any more of these games, Ms. Yow!
Why is it that in this new age of replays and reviews, we continue to have more and more wrong calls being made, with no apparent way to overturn them?
The entire universe is witness to the wrong calls being made, but despite having replay review, we can review only some of the plays.
I say either throw out replay reviews altogether, or use them every time we have a controversial play.
Anyone who was in the East Stands for the Clemson game several seasons ago would take exception to a statement that they were “not at risk”. There were numerous EMS calls throughout this game, the most ever at C-F. And if it was that bad for the fans, imagine how bad it must have been for the players down on the field. I knew several people on the East side who had to leave at the half that day due to the oppressive early-afternoon heat.
What’s worse, the ACC Network, which is an iron-clad noon kickoff deal, will continue to demand more and more of these games. There are going to be more and more empty seats in stadiums around the ACC if the idiotic noon kickoffs continue during September. Since the cameras have to face east, these empty seats will become harder to hide in the coming years.
What the ACC should do is tell the ACC Network that they’ll have to start their September games later (4pm) or quit doing business with them. A 4pm game would easily be over by the 7pm “holy hour” if it wasn’t ridiculously dragged out the way the games are now.
As far as the ACC Network goes, I can’t imagine that being shown by this two-bit network does anything to enhance your program’s stature. With 3 ESPN tv networks plus multiple Fox sports stations simultaneously showing far better college games, there are simply too many other tv choices. NCSU-Ga. Southern? Outside of Raleigh and Statesboro, NOBODY will want to watch this one, especially State fans who have East Stadium seats.
One more thing about the 20%-capacity bowl games- they generate revenue because big corporations buy up most of this 20% capacity (all the good seats). Schools like NCSU can’t afford, for long, to continue scheduling noon kickoff games early on and expect to make a lot of money, especially with Sun Belt-level teams being the primary opponents.
It’s time for ACC ADs and officials to make up their minds as to who is more important to their football programs’ futures- their booster club members or the ACC TV Network. I don’t know where AD Yow stands on this, but she had better wake up before State starts losing more LTR subscribers than they gain. Right now, road games against decent opponents (Tennessee and LSU) would generate more revenue than home games against opponents like Old Dominion and Presbyterian.
I say take every NCSU official who agreed to yet another insane early-season noon kickoff and tie them to East Stadium seats at the 50 on August 30. Maybe after 4 hours of nonstop heat and generally Godawful football, they might realize why so many of us LTR fans are ready to bail.
For 19 seasons, I’ve bought LTR seats for football, and this will POSITIVELY be my last one. Schedules like this one, not to mention being cooked like I was at the Clemson, Akron and other notable early kickoffs in the past, have led me to believe that we fans don’t matter anymore. It’s hot enough on the West Side where I sit, and I cannot imagine enduring 4 hours on the East Side from noon forward.
Let alone watching ANY game shown on the ACC TV Network.
If they tried this kind of stuff at Michigan, they’d be run out of Ann Arbor.
I guess when you haven’t had any tradition for the past 25 years, you’re desperate enough to try anything to erase the bad memories. Why not yellow helmets instead? Maybe this way our QBs could do a better job at finding their receivers than they did last season.
If we MUST have black as a primary color, then by all means let’s scrap the red (and of course the white) and make our official colors black and blue. That would signify the painful fact that we’ve been beaten black and blue for the past quarter-century in almost every sport that matters at NCSU.
Besides, when was the last time any of you on here EVER saw the Wolfpack win a game that mattered while wearing these witless black colors?
Hopefully for TJ, he won’t be picked up by the Celtics or Lakers, who were among the NBA’s worst teams this past season.
As far as him being drafted 13th, it’ll more than likely be 20-something. He will get no bonus points for being a Wolfpacker. That’s not a slam, that’s reality. Had he played at Duke or maybe UNC, we all know he’d be a likely lottery pick next month.
Now that we’ve gone back to an earlier beginning of the ACCT, perhaps the Wolfpack and Wake brass can request that they be allowed to play each other in the season finale like they used to, so that they won’t have a long travel weekend to BC or Miami on Sunday and then have to leave on Monday for the ACCT.
This would give the Pack and Deacs, who will surely be playing on Tuesday or Wednesday, an extra day to rest before having to hit the road again.
The comishes may indeed want the extra home games for the $$, but they had better be aware that many season-ticket fans are fed up with the cupcake games, plus many like me are angry about seeing longtime rivalries (like Duke, UVA and GT) cut back to about one home game every decade. The less conference games we’re allowed to play, the less often we’ll get to see the likes of VT, Miami and Pitt at C-F.
I predicted on this site a few weeks ago that the ACC football schedule would NOT be expanded to 9 games because it’s what the FANS want. TO HELL WITH THE FANS is the clear message coming out of the spring meetings.
NCSU has proven over and again that they no longer have control of their own schedule, the proof being the loss of home-and-away games with Tennessee and LSU. To blame for much of this is our failure to establish ourselves not only nationally but even regionally. The Atlantic Division also has much to do with this. Playing in the Coastal certainly didn’t hurt
Duke, did it?If any of the Wolfpack brass are reading this, they can be assured that my next football season will be my last LTR football purchase. I’ve flat had it with buying a season-ticket package that will feature only 4 conference home games every season, dictated by a mandate that we continue playing Boston College, Syracuse and Wake Forest EVERY year. What was the point of bringing Miami and Virginia Tech into the league in the first place when the States and the Wakes will never be able to play them enough to establish a good rivalry? VT and State is a rivalry waiting to happen, but decisions like limiting the ACC slate to only 8 games a season will never allow it.
Enough is enough. I’ve had it.
All I ever needed to know about Avent’s coaching came a few season ago in Gainesville, when he held a rested Carlos Rodon out of Game One of the Super Regional.
He may win 900 more, but it’s doubtful in my mind that his teams will ever sustain any level of greatness.
The first thing that should be a slapping wake-up to Wolfpackers is that LSU replaced us with SYRACUSE! And this is FOOTBALL, not basketball. Hell, maybe we should have followed ASU to the Sun Belt Conference; at least we’d get to play the Mountaineers, who would generate a hundred times more interest than Troy (or Georgia Southern and South Alabama).
I sympathize with those of you, who, like me, have LTRs at CF. After 19 years, this may well be my last season too. The OOC home games aren’t worth the paper that the tickets are printed on anymore, and like someone said, if you can’t go, you can’t GIVE these tickets away. Plus, ACC officials have ruined our league rivalries with Duke, GT and UVA, plus have not allowed us to develop ones with VT and Miami. And I’ve heard nary a complaint from the NCSU brass about the screw job we’re getting with scheduling as the league continues to expand and hand over more and more control to television.
I said it on here a few months ago and I’ll say it again: NCSU sports needs a thorough housecleaning, from administrators to coaches. Never has any ACC school spent so much in an endeavor to be relevant with such dismal results as has North Carolina State University. I don’t mind paying for the rights to hold my seats for the rest of my life, but I sure do mind having to sit in them every Saturday as long as we continue to bring in substandard opponents far from our state borders.
I’d rather go play quality teams on the road than host cupcakes. Eating cupcakes will not build a strong program, and we are living proof!
Thanks to the IDIOTS who brought Notre Dame on board, the ACC will never go to a 9-game conference schedule, especially if all the ACC teams end up playing an SEC team each season. That’ll be ten games already filled for the ACC teams who play ND that season, and you know the ACC teams will want at least two cupcake opponents if not 3. The ACC basketball coaches were opposed to going to an 18-game schedule, so it’s likely that a majority of the ACC football coaches will feel the same way about a 9-game schedule.
The ACC “brain crust” may be able to figure out a schedule, but like Alpha said, ESPN will control the matchups, and to hell with who the fans want to see on their team’s schedule. It will indeed be bad news for the Wolfpack and Demon Deacons, who probably will continue to be stuck in the same division with Clemson, FSU and now Louisville.
Again, what the league needs to do is re-align the conference into 2 historically and geographically sensible divisions, which would place the Big Four back on annual football schedules, probably with Clemson, FSU and GT or UVA. Syracuse and the other Big East castoffs KNEW what they were getting into when they joined the ACC. If they don’t like the Big Four teams getting a “travel break” by playing each other the way they’ve done for the past hundred years, tough crap. The Orange and their arrogant fans can go to hell for all I care, and hopefully take Notre Dame, BC, Pitt and Miami with them. I hate this new ACC, and if the Pack doesn’t soon get its long-term rivals (Duke, GT, UVA plus an opportunity to play VT more often) back on some kind of regular schedule, I’m done with buying season football tickets like I have for the past 20 seasons.
It simply makes no sense, financially or from a rivalry standpoint, to destroy the annual State-Duke and UNC-WF football matchups.
The ACC has already destroyed the Big East. Now, it’s about to destroy itself, if that hasn’t happened already. Whatever comes out of this meeting next week, you can bet that it’ll please only the tv networks and those responsible for screwing this league up in the first place.
It’s very early, but………
The ACC, excluding State, BC, GT and Clemson, will be decidedly better next season. The Blues will simply reload with top-level recruiting classes coming in. A mediocre Maryland program will be replaced by Louisville. ‘Nuff said there.
Syracuse will still be Syracuse, and Pitt is a program on the rise. I think FSU should be about as good, and Miami should be a little better with more experience. So should VT and WF, who have jettisoned two awful coaches. They CAN’T be as bad next season.
GT and Clemson don’t seem to be going anywhere with their current coaches. I think Gott is better than those two, but we were a mediocre team last season, and we just lost the ACC’s POY plus our point guard.
I hope I’m wrong here, but the only 7th seed we’ll get is in the ACCT, and I honestly don’t think we’ll be .500 in the league.
In the college game before the mid-1980s, winning was primarily a combination of talent and skill, plus some coaching. 1983 is the textbook example of how a fundamentally solid but undermanned team could beat a team with superior talent in a title game- with great skills and coaching. But with a shot clock, it’s primarily talent. Yes, occasionally a Cinderella gets to the S16, but aside from George Mason’s run, the Final Four is usually dominated by the most talented teams. Villanova won it in ’85 with a 45-second clock, but they were playing an opponent for the 3rd time that season, and shot nearly 80% for the game, an unheard-of percentage.
In short, in an NBA-style game, the “Law of the Jungle” prevails. The little guy has basically no chance in a series of games. Calipari knows this and although I detest the guy, he knows what to do to win. The same schools, who are the ones who get all the talent, dominate the NCAAT (and the BCS). Ignore all the early upsets, because it’s business as usual in the FF. And for schools like NCSU, that’s not good news.
Cat Barber to me is a better basketball player than Tyler Lewis, but I think Tyler was the better point guard. I think our coaches did ok in developing some of our players, but I don’t think the coach lives who can make Barber an effective point guard at the ACC level. Shooting guard, maybe, but not point.
This sports year continues its plunge into the abyss with the baseball team’s 9th ACC loss in a row. Ain’t nothin’ going right………….
I don’t know what is best for TJ Warren but I wish him success whatever he does. He definitely has pro potential, but I do believe that his chances for playing any significant minutes in the NBA would be greatly enhanced by staying in school another season, maybe even two.
Parker, like many future NBA stars, has the media smitten because of his tremendous talent and the potential of that talent. What I saw in Parker, especially in the final stages of the season, was a player who lost sight of his teammates when he had the ball late in the game.
I think he’s what we oldtimers would call a ball hog.
John Calipari may be a great coach, no disagreement there, but I think, as do a LOT of people, that he’s a scumbag. It’ll be a cold day in hell before I’d ever pull for a Calipari team, especially Kentucky.
As far as the Louisville-Kentucky game, it’s too bad they both can’t lose.
