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Only fitting that New York Life is the first ACCT sponsor, with Syracuse, New York’s only ACC team, being the first team out of the ACCT.
Love it!
The only way that this NC State team is Dancing in March will be AT LEAST 9 or 10 more wins. When you haven’t won 2 in a row in two months, this isn’t likely. I don’t see how we can be ahead of Clemson in anyone’s rankings right now. And Clemson, who looked like a slightly upgraded version of the Wolfpack last night in Tallahassee, isn’t likely going anywhere in March, except maybe on an NIT road game.
Face the facts, folks. This team should be getting better but simply isn’t. If anything, they’re getting worse. What we have here is mainly a bunch of street-ballers who still don’t function as a cohesive team unit, can’t shoot free throws, hold on to the ball, take sensible shots, or play consistent defense. We just beat the last-place team in the league on a win-or-lose 30-footer at the buzzer. I don’t think this win over GT will matter in the overall picture, and it sure didn’t matter much in Winston Tuesday night.
I still think that a 6 or 7-man rotation would work better for this team rather than the continual subbing in and out of players, especially when someone on the floor makes a boo-boo. The three players most important to this team right now to me are Barber, Lacey and Washington. Those three, along with Abu and the Martin twins, would be my team most of the game. I like Turner, but he has become a poor man’s version of Scott Wood, who could at least shoot free throws and occasionally play defense.
I wouldn’t want to have to coach this team, and I’m beginning to wonder if those who have to really want to.
We seem to be the basketball version of Cormac McCarthy’s The Road.
This one tonight had all the recurring nightmares this program has become famous for: Jeckyl and Hyde halves, missed free throws at critical times, turnovers at the worst possible times, long periods of absent defense, and WTF shot selection.
It’s just a setup for the February 24 game in Chapel Hill.
If we lose this one, we won’t be a listing ship, we’ll be a sinking ship. I just hope this trip to Wake Forest won’t be another voyage of the damned.
Speaking of flag flying at Carter-Finley, I’d like to know just why the Notre Dame flag flies above Carter-Finley.
They are NOT a football member of this league. I doubt they’ll ever be.
After attending the last two home games and reading these posts, I’m taking heart that we’re leading the league and possibly the nation in one category- the WTF Category!
This is a major upgrade from last season? Are you kidding me? Our first four games are against Troy, Eastern Kentucky, Old Dominion and South Alabama, plus there are only 6 home games.
I’m done with football. After 20 straight years of watching mediocrity on both sides of C-F Stadium, it’s definitely time to move on.
Tonight, we looked like we were playing UNC in the Dean Dome.
Something is obviously wrong with a team when it loses an 18-point lead and then gets down by 23 points, both in the first half of consecutive home games.
I have noticed in quite a few games this season that Kyle Washington seldom if ever plays much in the final 10 minutes or so of our games. We certainly could have used his long arms to snare a few defensive rebounds during the stretch just after we’d cut the lead to 3 and then fell back a few more. The game was still very much up for grabs, but Clemson killed us inside in the final minutes of the game.
Barber, Washington and Lacey to me are the 3 players who MUST produce if we’re going to win against decent competition. I’d like to see a 6-man rotation of those 3 plus Abu and the Martin twins play the vast majority of our games, at least early on. I think Turner would be more effective off the bench when we really needed a spark, as would Anya.
Inconsistent defense, poor shot selection, and a propensity to turn the ball over at the worst times continue to plague this team. Now, apparently a lack of heart has been thrown into the mix.
I don’t really know what’s going on here, and I don’t want to second-guess the coaches, who I don’t envy right now. But this was as awful a home first half as I’ve ever witnessed a Wolfpack team put in the books. What makes this one so confounding is that this team has shown it can play with anybody, but at other times it can’t play with nobody.
Off the bubble? Maybe the NIT bubble. As far as the NCAAT chances for this team, nothing short of running the table will put us back in Dance contention. Other than the Virginia Tech and Boston College games, it’s unlikely we’ll win any more, and in fact we COULD drop to 15-16 overall going into the ACCT.
This program should be competing to play in the ACCT on Fridays, not on Wednesdays and Thursdays.
Here’s another stat of the day- Virginia Tech 70, Pitt 67.
Now THAT is a damning loss! Goodbye bubble, hello NIT for the Panthers.
I agree that our defense has not improved. It probably won’t improve because all the focus seems to be on the offense.
We’re .500 in the ACC now, but with 6 of our final 10 games on the road, it’s highly unlikely we’ll finish at or better than 9-9 overall. We might win a couple of the road games, but we’ll likely lose at least one if not two of our remaining home games. That leaves a likely ACC mark of 8-10, or maybe even worse. There’s no bubble in that number.
This expanded, “new and improved ACC” just sucks for teams like us. We’ll likely enter the ACCT needing wins, and while there will be plenty of chances, most will come against the lower half of the league. If we make it to Saturday with a chance to take out a quality RPI opponent, there won’t be a lot left in the tank.
So then the NIT will come to the rescue, and we’ll be back in the post-season, but maybe on the road somewhere, just another target of yet another small school looking to send us to March obscurity. Rather than repeat this scenario again, what we SHOULD do, just ONCE, would be to turn down the NIT and sit home. Choose NOT to be a part of this second-rate tournament. They probably need us a lot worse than we need them, anyhow. Let the players, coaches and administrators stew in the fact that this program can and should do better, and that our goals are no longer going to be associated with mediocrity. This team is young, but is way better than it has achieved on the floor so far. It is a deep team with real talent (Lacey and Turner) and genuine promise (Washington, Abu and the Martin twins).
With the amount of money and number of fans this program has behind it, at a school which historically has its sports roots in basketball, our goals should be higher than achieving just mediocrity. When it comes to basketball, we’re not Virginia Tech or even Florida State; we’re the “other” Tobacco Road team that also has multiple NCAA Champions basketball banners hanging in our arena.
I can’t think of one instance, with the possible exception of HWSNBM’s first post-season team, where the NIT actually helped our program. And going there in Gottfried’s fourth season will be about as useful to us as a screen door is to a submarine.
If one Hail Mary failure wasn’t enough, we delivered TWO of them in a row. This is where this game was lost; it certainly wasn’t lost due to lack of effort.
I was there, and hate it that we lost a game in which so many of our guys did so many good things, only to end up losing on a couple of bonehead plays in the end.
I don’t have a crystal ball and don’t know how we’ll do from here on out, but I expect that after we get past Clemson Wednesday night, we’ll disappear into the dark, murky and ugly depths of the lower ACC. At least, down deep we won’t have to worry anymore whether or not we’re in or out, or even on the bubble.
That bubble burst tonight.
Win tonight and the Pack should be IN. Lose and it’s back to the bubble. It’s time to get away from this bubble crap and turn this season in the right direction.
I’ll be there, rooting for the Pack!
The 1967 team was a big and bruising team that was built on defense. It’s now looking like our running game is about to get better, especially if our O-line improves some.
I still think we need a passing QB instead of trying to plug in a running back at this position, especially since we’re getting a 4-star RB in McClendon. I think Brissett has done as well as he can at QB, but I certainly hope Doeren will look for a good HS prospect for our next QB instead of us taking yet another transfer.
There are still some possibilities out there, as Michigan just yesterday grabbed a 6-7 pocket-passer who had been committed to Texas but will now go to UM instead.
I was pleased with Saturday’s win over FSU, but I didn’t see anything that shows me that we’re making significant strides.
My predictions from here on out are:
@Miami–L
Notre Dame–L
Clemson–W
@GT–L
@WF–L
UVA–W
@Louisville–L
VT–W
@UNC–L
@BC–W
@Clemson–L
Syracuse–LWe’ll be back to the ACCT on Thursday, and we might get a win here, and maybe 2, but that’s probably it. Then it’ll be NIT time.
Maybe we’ll get lucky then and be given a home game or two.
The one thing that could make me change my predictions would be a Wolfpack team that on February 24, for once, didn’t play scared in Chapel Hill.
Agree with eas that we need a point guard.
And when we do get another one, we need to do a better job holding on to him than we did in holding on to Tyler Lewis. Losing Tyler has had a far more negative impact on our program than many want to admit.
If someone doesn’t step up in this position real soon, the second half of our schedule, mainly road games, could spell disaster.
UNC shot lights out because most of their shots were close-range and in some cases just plain layups. If I were coaching this team (which thankfully I’m not), after the miserable defensive performances I’ve see so far this season, I’d consider showing some zone defense. I would have done this last night after being plastered in the paint early like we were. If nothing else, the sudden defensive change might have thrown them out of their offense at least long enough for us to avoid a big deficit.
Lacey is our best player, but he doesn’t need to have to run the point AND do everything else. Barber is probably still our best ball handler despite his warts, but until he WANTS to be the leader on this team, we’ll probably continue to struggle in this area.
The 3 calls that bothered me the most were Anya’s 5th, plus the two they called on Cody Martin against Paige and Tokoto. It still appears that when all-ACC players wearing blue engage in physical contact with other teams’ players at critical stages, the big dogs always get the calls. The Martin twins have contributed a lot of little things that have really helped the team, and Cody Martin shouldn’t be blamed any more than anyone else for the loss.
I didn’t like the final time out we called, which I thought gave UNC time to set up their defense. Down 2, I would have called the TO, but not down 3.
The last two games showed a lot about this team, but the next two games may be the most pivotal of the season. The goal for this team (and program) should be not just to finish at or above .500 but to finish at least in the top 4 in the ACC standings. This team has shown that it’s capable of doing that, but what still has to be overcome is our dismal history of being a road kill team. It’s time to change that.
I don’t see how we can be ahead of Notre Dame at this point. They beat Purdue by over 30 and we lost an ugly one to the Boilers. Notre Dame, 15-2, also won in Chapel Hill. State has yet to win away from home and will need more than just a Duke win at home to overcome the ugly losses to Wofford and Cincinnati, especially if Duke turns out to be overrated.
We’re playing really well now, and I like our chances tomorrow night, but until we start winning away from home, we’re a bubble team. And speaking of bubbles, put Georgia Tech in the “out” column. That program is going nowhere under Gregory.
Walk Like An Egyptian, King Karl.
But shed no tears. We’ll probably see you behind the mike on the ACC Network soon.
I gotcha, Bill. And I got the point here! We Gott a biggie today!
Like I said, let’s have an encore performance Wednesday!
