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A 19th century politician once quipped “to the victors belong the spoils,” and in the case of area college football, NC State is the clear victor: in
[See the full post at: While The Wolfpack Basks In Victory, UNC Players Are Calling Each Other Out]A true pleasure to read. Thank you. I hope every State fan will post a “Thank you” so that Alpha Wolf can get a sense of how many of us he has entertained with this fine write up.
Something I read on IC: “Sleeping giant my ass. How long is this mf going to sleep.”
Maybe not ‘satisfied’ but thoroughly impressed with the development of the program. Kudos to the coaches, staff and the players.
I’ll second Grey in saying thanks to Alpha Wolf for not only this write up but many others he has done over the years.
Nicely done, Alpha.
All things considered, it was a truly enjoyable season. Can’t wait ’til next season’s installment.
If one views this Football season as a demonstration or lesson in “How to Handle Challenges and Adversity as Team and as an Individual”, instead of wins, losses and statistics…
then the stark contrast in the direction each program is headed in even greater…
The OP Title, while technically correct, perhaps misses the mark… Only TWO UNC Players Are Calling Each Other Out … The OTHER EIGHTY GUYS, and apparently Coaches and Staff are …
now this is a great read by Jared Failko ( wral.com ) too… and the truth is ..
It really doesn’t get any worse that… but something over there just doesn’t add up…______________________
We know…
1. Everything “adds up” when you have all the pieces of the puzzle…
2. There’s always somebody that knows more about something than you do…
3. People can’t hide their feelings or keep there mouths shut…4. and most importantly… there is the story you hear or read AND
There’s always a better story hidden in the background…SO….
What can we conclude from all of this…
There’s a reason for ‘indifference’ and it’s not that the kids in light blue don’t get along…
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!State beat the lucky sperm club (wake forest), Syracuse, and the tar holes; hardly the basis to proclaim a resurgence of State’s fortunes. Close as a pubic to Monica’s lips, the Pack was awful close to dropping a game it had in hand the other night.
There is a constant I have observed during my long suffering as a State man: State measures it’s success in context to the failures of the holes. I would suggest that ending the mental symbiotic relationship would be a healthy first step. Measure success and failure in objective rational manners, stop equating chapel hill with the base line for improvement. Measuring against the holes only deepens the paradigm they sought to impose long ago, they are the beginning and ending of all things.
Simply hope that they cease to exist.
McCallum
For most all of us at SFN, Coaches and Players …
Success this season… is measured against last season’s results …
Nothing more, Nothing less.Perhaps, McCallum’s sentiments, would be best put as…
“It’s bad karma to kick a man when he’s down…”
and leave it at that …#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!Well said as usual Alpha. The smoking embers at the hole are about to erupt into a full-fledged bonfire.
Buy popcorn.How interesting this string. In one light, we spend far too much time measuring ourselves against a stick we’d be far better to avoid. After all, what are we ranked? From another aspect, as a true pack fan it has always been as much about our successes as their failures. To me, that’s why this blog exists.
The bigger problem for the future, I would think, would be how soon before bigger programs come calling and he starts listening.
Nice way to finish the season on an upswing. During off-season, DD needs to show the film of GA Tech and BC games where got manhandled. That’s the next step.
Proud of the team for pulling it together.
We’re all gonna miss 82
While not the greatest or most consistent season ever, it’s hard not to appreciate a team that improves from start to finish. I like the trend….
Best of luck to Bo – class act making an obviously well-thought out decision for his future.
And thanks, Alpha, for this and many other great articles !
State beat the lucky sperm club (wake forest), Syracuse, and the tar holes; hardly the basis to proclaim a resurgence of State’s fortunes. Close as a pubic to Monica’s lips, the Pack was awful close to dropping a game it had in hand the other night.
If State were down by a TD and needed to recover an on-side kick and score another TD in less than 1.5 minutes — an on-side kick we failed to recover — and we started claiming we were within a c-hair of winning, we would be laughed out of town. I think the same goes for claims that we were that close to losing. Sure we could have lost but THAT close? Be for real.
There is a constant I have observed during my long suffering as a State man: State measures it’s success in context to the failures of the holes. I would suggest that ending the mental symbiotic relationship would be a healthy first step. Measure success and failure in objective rational manners, stop equating chapel hill with the base line for improvement. Measuring against the holes only deepens the paradigm they sought to impose long ago, they are the beginning and ending of all things.
I think we got us a case here of McCallum seeing the world through his own eyes. I don’t see that here on SFN. Perhaps McCallum needs his eyes checked.
Are we basking in our current success while enjoying EweNC’s current misery? Guilty. But all this BS? I don’t think so.
I agree with McCallum on this one. Glad we are trending up. As it pertains to UNC, it’s good for us that we are gaining an advantage as it translates to the recruiting trail, but that’s it. Basking in their implosion is inviting our own disasters.
Mr. Grey is channeling my thoughts. I get what McCallum alludes to, but I have been getting a great deal of amusement in observing the signs of the dichotomous nature in 2 programs, myself.
If one held a finger to the wind as early as a year, or more ago, the signs would have been received.
Basking in their implosion is inviting our own disasters.
Read the words again, PackFamily. Basking in our victory, not basking in their implosion. If enjoying their misery is inviting disaster too effing bad. I’ve been a State fan since I was 7. That’s 70 years of listening to the righteous bastards crowing and preening about “The Caroline Way.” I believe I and some other older State Fans are enjoying the shoe being on the other foot for a while. Bragging rights for a year. How sweet it is. That’s 6 out of 8 years. I’ll tell you what’s inviting disaster, cheating for 20 years so you can get an edge on your “non rival.”
I’ll kick the heals while they are down. Surly the product of my sinful nature, I enjoy the pain they are rightfully suffering.
What I will not do is measure any success by the isolated failure of another.
How different would it look if that former Habersham Central QB at Georgia Southern scores to put them up for good? Or maybe the odd play from the Great Pharoh of Columbus County against Syracuse, how different would that game have looked minus the pick six?
Did State improve?
Yes.
Were they playing weaker competition at the end of the season ?
No doubt.
Does anyone outside of North Carolina measure their bearing and worth based on what goes on in chapel hill?
Nope unless you are seeking to committ fraud.
And finally, I have lost my glasses but I could swear that I read something about a State student transferring to Yale and somehow chapel hill was not involved.
McCallum
^ That’s funny. I can see you lookin’ inside the recliner, now.
Has Swofford been mentioned in the transfer yet?
Alpha Wolf says:
“Admittedly, 2014 was not a high water mark for NC State football, but considering where they were going into the season, this team accomplished some great things. They were an afterthought at best in the summer, but they turned around a three win season with no conference victories in 2013 to a winning record and with good players returning next year.”That’s pretty clearly is not measuring “success by the isolated failure of another.” This year’s success is measured against last year’s lack of success. If we had lost to GSU, we were still a success compared to last year. Taking the Syracuse INT away from us to create a false loss, is ridiculous.
What I’m left to puzzle over is why McCallum felt the need to lift his nose in the air and say, “What I will not do is measure any success by the isolated failure of another.” Measuring success by the isolated failure of another is only in his mind.
If we were measuring our success by the failure of the holes, that failure sure as hell ain’t isolated.
I agree heartedly with grey and CD.
We were the light weights now we are beating them.
Progress is very evident even to these eyes.You have yet to realize that I refuse to credit chapel hill with anything other than cheating. It is on the DNA of some folks to drag chapel hill into anything regarding State.
I’ve taken nothing away nor have I granted likewise.
But since we are comparing to the year before, which is valid, then let us run this race back to the start. If that be the case, minus any balance provided for by the heals, then I’d say the year was a smashing success since State is sub .500 in football lifetime
But if you are missing than then let me suggest the concept of n=1.
McCallum
The bigger problem for the future, I would think, would be how soon before bigger programs come calling and he starts listening.
Strangely enough I don’t worry about Doeren listening to the big boys calling. Why? We have what he wants. North Carolina is where he paid his own money to vacation with his family.
I have no way of knowing but he seems to have core values that are bigger than money and I think if he is very successful our PTB will find the funds to keep him here. Even if he leaves isn’t it great that we have had a coach that was so successful that the big boys wanted him enough to buy out his contract.
What I do worry about is keeping our coordinators and other assistants. Canada is going to be a very hot property soon. Our line coaches are IMO well above average. The other coaches are getting the job done as well. If our receivers coach can cure the “drop-sies” he can name his price in the pros.
I see where you are coming from but I’m not inclined to worry about that which I can do nothing.
^ That’s funny. I can see you lookin’ inside the recliner, now.
Has Swofford been mentioned in the transfer yet?
When that slimy bastard put the call in to Yale’s AD, no doubt he dialed from a burner phone. There will be no trail.
Good discussion. I look at U*NC football now like I did when I attended State. The team we wanted to beat was U*NC, but Clemson was the program. Now it is FSU. Obviously we have a ways to go, but our steps in the right direction are so apparent from this time in 2013. Great to see the dumpster fire in CH, but we should improve ourselves and they will be in our rearview mirror. Preach on wise Greywolf!
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