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11/24/2017 at 9:35 AM #127021TheCOWDOGModerator
Can a football season be dissected down to 4 plays? No. No one in their right mind would do such a thing. 1: USC- First play of the campaign is a 90 y
[See the full post at: Well…That Went By Fast.]11/24/2017 at 9:56 AM #127022McCallumParticipantPretty clear breakdown.
Looks closer than further away.
1) 90 kickoff and 57 yd TD pass against SC. Three turnovers were no help.
2) Punt return against Clempson and long TD run.
3) Great play by lucky sperm club linebacker at goal line.
5 plays right there that are the difference between 7-4 and 10-1.
State was mauled at ND. They were never going to win that one.
McCallum
11/24/2017 at 10:09 AM #127023Pack78ParticipantCD-Love this recap every time you post it before this game-let’s ALL get our game faces on-GO PACK!
11/24/2017 at 11:00 AM #127024choppack1ParticipantYep. Agreed Pack78.
And yes, close but no cigar this year. Like I said in an earlier thread – the good news is that there has been no Louisville meltdown this year. We can get there, Saturday is huge for a ton of reasons. But 6-2 while another is 1-7 is just another.
11/24/2017 at 7:09 PM #127049highstickParticipantI always want to confuse this game with the one the year before at State when I was in my last semester before graduation. Think that was the day that Wilder and a young fellow named David Thompson came over to my apartment before the game…Wilder’s brother and future wife were staying with me that weekend.
Next year, I was still in Raleigh working and married for 3 months.
"Whomp 'em, Up, Side the Head"!
11/24/2017 at 7:11 PM #127050highstickParticipantI always want to confuse this game with the one the year before at State when I was in my last semester before graduation. Think that was the day that Wilder and a young fellow named David Thompson came over to my apartment before the game…Wilder’s brother and future wife were staying with me that weekend.
Next year, I was still in Raleigh working and married for 3 months.
I also recall this was the night I decided to take a rest at the afterparty at my wife’s apartment, took a nap on the bed, rolled off between the bed and wall and they didn’t find me for 3 more hours!!
"Whomp 'em, Up, Side the Head"!
11/25/2017 at 7:34 AM #127052YogiNCParticipantCD, loved reading that once again. This time though I came away with a new tidbit of info. The data digger in me kicked in and I’m pretty sure I’ve nailed down who is behind the nom de plume, and I came away with a whole new level of respect. There is a large difference of supposing who someone might be and actually knowing.
Graduating from HS in 72 I had two teammates that played for Clemson and one that played for the Gamecocks. I gave one of them a call last night to reminisce and when I called your name his reaction was “what a tough SOB that guy was”. High praise from a guy who had creosote on the sides of his helmet from slamming into a light pole to get warmed up for practice. My favorite play was fake 34, 21 cause I knew when I hit that hole it was going to be open.
Smarter than the average bear
11/25/2017 at 8:11 AM #127053bill.onthebeachParticipant1972 — If we knew then what we know now…
We’d all be in jail or worse, maybe President…
There’s poetry in sports, especially on the gridiron and today we’ll find out whether this football season ends as a
— Greek Tragedy
— Divine Comedy
— Paradise Lost
— Blank Verse
— Moral Epic
— Carpe DiemI’m thinking if we come out strong on both sides of the line, get up a couple of TDs, we’ll smite them with the sword and vanish our enemies in an absolute defeat and cleanse ourselves of the taint of this season’s WhatIFs?? and WouldaShouldaCouldas!! and silence the lambs…
If not, we’ll probably need a couple of fields goals to claim the moral victory….
The underlying theme today may well be…
“When you’ve got nothing to lose, you risk everything….
and when you’ve got everything to lose, you risk nothing…We shall see…
GO PACK!!!#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!11/25/2017 at 8:11 AM #127054TheCOWDOGModeratorYogi, I knew a lotta guys from Clemson and USC, albeit mostly from the baseball side. A couple played both, too.
Fine day for football. Hines passed the concussion protocol, and hopefully makes it through unscathed. He is truly the difference maker.
Did Doeren and staff work the players’ state of mind well enough this week? Were they able to shed the baggage of the 1-3 stretch? I look at these kinds of indicators more so than X and Os. Execution…Sharp and focused. Above all, belief.
11/25/2017 at 9:38 AM #127055YogiNCParticipantMark Heniford was the guy I spoke of. He played catcher for Clemson in 73, not first string though, mostly pinch hit. He never made the traveling squad so he stuck with football. Undersized LB but would take your head off if he caught you blindsided (I know this from personal experience in practice). He ascribed to the Jack Lambert school of thought that QBs should wear a dress. His disdain for running backs was almost as intense. Also played right guard in HS. His comment last night was that you and he locked horns more than once in the 75 game, and that the Pack killed them that day.
Smarter than the average bear
11/25/2017 at 10:16 AM #127056TheAliasTrollParticipant7-3 against the Cheaters over the past decade.
Season Site Final Line 2007 home 31-27 -3.5 2008 away 41-10 11.5 2009 home 28-27 5 2010 away 29-25 2.5 2011 home 13-0 3.5 2012 away 35-43 7.5 2013 home 19-27 5 2014 away 35-7 6.5 2015 home 34-45 5.5 2016 away 28-21 9.5 2017 home -16.5
Interestingly enough this is only the 2nd time this decade we are favored. Last time we were favored by a big number (-17.5) was 2003 when Phil was running the show. We won that game, but we didn’t cover.
My favorite win of the last decade is easily the 41-10 gem. Being a 11 point dog and just coming out and embarrassing them made for some sweet times at work that following Monday.
11/25/2017 at 11:47 AM #127058YogiNCParticipantSorry CD, I had you pegged for that Horvance kid. A little too far to the west, huh? No matter, you were pretty stellar too!
Smarter than the average bear
11/25/2017 at 12:13 PM #127059TheCOWDOGModeratorI figured so, Yogi. I didn’t tangle with many LBs.
Pat Hovance from Alliance, Ohio!11/25/2017 at 3:51 PM #127065JaxPackManParticipantI don’t disagree with the plays you point out. What impact do you think not having a reliable place kicker has had on play calling?
State’s Defense has been really good, but why does it seem that every opponent has a player who sets a school/personal record? I’m thinking of BC’s running backs, ND’s running back, and Wake’s pass receiver.
JaxPackMan
NCSU class of '76
Jacksonville, FL11/26/2017 at 5:55 PM #127291PackerInRussiaParticipantCowdog I hope the boys in red keep winning so that you’ll keep posting that story each year. Enjoy it every time. Either I noticed some new things or you added in a few extra details. A few new wrinkles for the big game?
11/26/2017 at 7:57 PM #127300redwolf87ParticipantThis was and is a great, great story. Thanks Cowdog.
Yesterday was one of those games you have people sitting behind you that only stir up angst. And they are, for lack of a better word, the very epitome of the “Walmart Kerliner Fan”.
A half-dozen or more. I could have made a doc off of these guys. They were hooting and hollering and invoking Ric Flair.
After Hyem’s second TD, they left. Hated that.
11/27/2017 at 6:24 AM #127310McCallumParticipantI gave one of them a call last night to reminisce and when I called your name his reaction was “what a tough SOB that guy was”. High praise from a guy who had creosote on the sides of his helmet from slamming into a light pole to get warmed up for practice.
Reputation is worth 3 divisions.
I would tap on my eye ball to stop the blink reflex from initial contact. Hitting walls, butting ones head on steel beams etc look darn stupid in hindsight but it did send a message of DEDICATED FOCUS on the subject at hand.
That aside, Hines was the real difference maker IMO. The size of the receivers coupled with the difficulty of covering JSAM could leave the field wide open for Hines. His absence was noticeable.
McCallum
11/27/2017 at 9:16 AM #127316choppack1ParticipantIn only one of our 4 losses was Hines completely available and relatively healthy.
(Let’s point out here that was really impressive for Hines was how he grew as a runner from the beginning of the year.
It’s also worthy of note that when the coaches knew he wouldn’t be relied upon for his usual role (Clemson) – the staff did a great job gameplanning. This reinforces my theory that our guys can prep pretty well but have a hard time adjusting real time. (Of course, as Clemson showed – you lose a key guy and things can go south in a hurry.)
11/27/2017 at 9:43 AM #127318YogiNCParticipantSaturday it was a joy to see those last 3 TDs. The really funny part of the second one was 2 DBs thought they had him and yet it was strangely like the coyote and the roadrunner. Hines gave ’em the beep beep and they were grabbing at a vapor trail.
Smarter than the average bear
11/27/2017 at 2:28 PM #127327freshmanin83ParticipantI hope Hines comes back next year.
11/27/2017 at 4:18 PM #127334choppack1ParticipantYea – we have a few guys who I’m concerned about…
Finley
Hines
Roseboro
RichardsonThose are the obvious ones. I think the easiest “I need to go ASAP” is Richardson. Next of those is Hines – although I think he can improve his stock significantly if he can make through an entire year healthy. His choice is most difficult though because if he gets injured next year, he’ll be labeled as fragile.
11/27/2017 at 4:39 PM #127337bill.onthebeachParticipantHines ain’t gonna make it thru a 12 game season at the level we want to play IF DD doesn’t get us another Old Testament Tailback…
I told ya’ll 6-7 games ago, Hines wasn’t built to run the ball 20-25 times a game, most of those between the tackles…
Hell no… I don’t want to see him go pro…
but whoever else is whispering in his ear knows what I saying about his size and our lack of a true up the middle tailback and that may be the deciding factor…POP!!!
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!11/27/2017 at 4:52 PM #127339ryebreadParticipantWe finished at 8-4, which is exactly what I thought before the year. We lost to S.Carolina and WF, which I didn’t expect, but beat FSU and Louisville. Overall, that’s a solid season.
DD should get his automatic 1 year extension but nothing more. I hope he’s back next year, but he may put his hat in the ring for other jobs. If he does and gets hired, then so be it.
11/27/2017 at 6:13 PM #127345TheCOWDOGModeratorThanks for the accolades!
Not mine…Theirs.All-ACC selections:
1st Team
Chubb
Hines
Jsam
2nd Team
Harmon
Adams
Richardson
3rd Team
Finley
Hines (SP)
Honorable Mention
Cole
Bradbury
Hill11/27/2017 at 7:16 PM #127346freshmanin83ParticipantCan Hines add enough muscle in the off season to help him make it through next year healthy or is his frame just not big enough.
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