Tom O’Brien recruiting on display as Pack shut out of NFL draft

Home Forums All StateFansNation Tom O’Brien recruiting on display as Pack shut out of NFL draft

Viewing 15 posts - 1 through 15 (of 15 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #86162
    StateFans
    Keymaster

    I held this stat since the middle of last week waiting for the NFL Draft to conclude….and then Luke DeCock went and ruined it for me on Twitter over
    [See the full post at: Tom O’Brien recruiting on display as Pack shut out of NFL draft]

    #86163
    packbackr04
    Participant

    so Carolina got shut out too? surprising

    #86164
    5statewx
    Participant

    Also have to remember that our team was one of the youngest in the NCAA last season, which means we didn’t have as many chances for a player to get drafted.

    #86165
    StateFans
    Keymaster

    we didn’t have as many chances for a player to get drafted because there was no energy around recruiting in the previous years and we had so many misses with players that were risks and weren’t talented or fits to begin with.

    Same point about TOB’s recruiting just magnified.

    #86169
    ryebread
    Participant

    The last two years my eyes have told me that we didn’t have a lot of NFL talent. When the kicker is MVP (two years ago), then you’re in big trouble. The NFL draft this year just validated it.

    All the “TOB find the 2 stars and coaches ’em up” garbage was just that. Now, maybe he did develop talent better than this year’s staff, and maybe this year’s juniors and seniors were suffering from 2 years under this staff. You could probably argue that either direction.

    My eyes said talent. We just didn’t have that much of it. This past year, outside of BC (and possibly UNC/UCF), I felt like we played much won and lost based on our talent level and the opposition.

    #86179
    choppack1
    Participant

    Interesting but not surprising that 1996 was the last year that happened. That being the case, some of that lack of talent fell on Sheridan. (The 96 season wss either moc’s 3rd or 4th.) Tob was fired (rightly so) because the talent well was drying up AND fan support had gotten very lukewarm… And yea, because Debbi had some balls.

    #86180
    archdalepack
    Participant

    Anything on Bryan underwood?

    #86181
    ancsu87
    Participant

    “All the “TOB find the 2 stars and coaches ‘em up” garbage was just that. Now, maybe he did develop talent better than this year’s staff, and maybe this year’s juniors and seniors were suffering from 2 years under this staff. You could probably argue that either direction.”

    What?

    #86183
    PackerInRussia
    Participant

    ^ I think by “this year’s staff” he means the staff that brought in this draft year’s class (in other word, TOB’s). I could be wrong.
    I wouldn’t say the finding 2-stars and coaching them up was garbage as that did happen some. You just can’t have whole classes of 2-star recruits and hope they all, or most, turn out to be 5-star players.

    #86188
    marinewolf
    Participant

    It’s time to let the Tom O’Brien era go.
    Tom was our coach and led us to some
    great wins.
    Now we have moved on to a great young
    coach in Dave D.
    Having met Tom, I liked him.
    He reached out an embraced the rivalry
    with unc and owned it except for one brief
    moment in his last game.
    I always remember the positives and discard
    the negatives.

    Thanks Tom (semper fi)
    Bob
    Bob

    #86201
    Heelh8r
    Participant

    Well said and ditto…I like the way you think, Marine.

    #86213
    Prowling Woofie
    Participant

    O’Brien brought a quiet dignity to the program. Didn’t flip out and lose his cool on the sidelines. And his buy-in to the rivalry down the road was classic. Owned The Hat and dryly turned the knife at every opportunity.

    Instilled tough love in our program while Da Boyz on Da Hill were partying with Fatz and cheating like hell.

    He didn’t recruit well enough to lift the program above mediocre. On the plus side of that – and it doesn’t mean anything to those of you that are not in the Raleigh area – he gave opportunity to some of the Cap 8 guys that grew up in Raleigh, guys that I watched come up through Pop Warner and high school. May not have won enough games, but I loved cheering for kids I KNEW.

    #86237
    blpack
    Participant

    Good points listed above. Obviously we didn’t have a ton of talent in ’13 & ’14. That is changing with this incoming class and some of previous class. Coach D know he needs better players and more of them to compete with the FSUs of the world. As he said Friday night, he didn’t come here to win 8 games, he came here to win them all. Let us remember the high water marks of the previous staff and move forward with this staff as they take on new challenges. It should be a fun ride.

    #86238
    Gowolves
    Participant

    I liked TOB. He said all the right things. He just couldn’t recruit.

    #86241
    marinewolf
    Participant

    Tom recruited to the charactor of a recruit, the philosophy of the Marine corp is to build you
    if you had good charactor and athletic ability you could be honed into a great player.
    not saying all recruits were able grow into this mold.
    The guys on the 2005 team on defense just about all made it the pro’s Tank,DeMario,Mario,marcus Hudson and so on
    but did not have a good team.
    If you measure your team by the amount that make the Pro’s you will be disappointed.
    Most of Tom’s player were students of high quality (not all) I will always have respect
    for Tom and what he tried to do.
    SEMPER FI

Viewing 15 posts - 1 through 15 (of 15 total)
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.