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Our friends over at the Red & White Podcast have dropped another gem on us that I just had to share with SFN. In this episode they interviewed former
[See the full post at: Should Mens BBall Go Back to Reynolds? One former player thinks so.]Its being turned into a “hall of fame”. Given we haven’t won anything since we left I guess its kind of appropriate.
I loved Reynolds and thought that it would have been nice to renovate and increase seating to 15k…unfortunately that ship has sailed with this Reno.
Hopefully we can redo RBC to bring fans closer to court and make it seem less cavernous when the canes leave in a few years.
chopp is 100% spot on. Reynolds should’ve been renovated….I’ll stop. What he said is all that needs to be said. Cameron Indoor Stadium is an absolute joke compared to when Reynolds was rocking which was nearly every home game. I thought the place was literally going to explode the NIT game against West Virginia. A renovated slightly larger on campus Reynolds is what the University, heritage, students and fans alike all deserved.
Yes Va, yes. I for one am ever so…well f that, not so patiently waiting for all this MONEY to pay off in the W-L column.
Yes Va, yes. I for one am ever so…well f that, not so patiently waiting for all this MONEY to pay off in the W-L column.
I think it has hurt more than helped. The LTRs forced people to buy the tickets every year or give up the seats they paid so much for. Thus there is always a steady source of income no matter how bad the teams are.
If they don’t go anywhere it’s because no one wants them. Last in the league in attendance by a long shot.
Speaking of former players, today I bumped into Damon Thornton and little dt, his 2 year old. Along with bennerman, Thornton is definitely one of my favorite dunkers this century
Winning is what we all want, and I seriously doubt the location will sway that, one way or the other. I personally take pride in the PNC arena, and like football, it is away from the campus, and the traffic issues that would develop there, as in the past. Traffic flows pretty well around the PNC, and Carter Finley. Just need to pave all parking for both sports, to reduce the muddy mess that sometimes occurs after lots of rain.
correct me if i’m wrong but the new seating capacity for Reynolds is only 6000 and not 12,400 as before. So it won’t work as much as many would like.
Reynolds is an absolute fantasy. Not happening.
I do like chop’s idea, and I really don’t see how the hockey squadron is still here 10 years from now. Makes no economic sense. Even I can fathom that, and I understand economics at about a 7th grade level.
But even the arena as currently configurated would be a fine environment if’n we were any good.
Lots of good, rational thinking here, except for the idea that men’s hoops could ever return to Reynolds.
Also, the Hurricanes or some other NHL team will likely be here for the long haul, as this market has proven it can succeed, and the region is still adding population by leaps and bounds. I even read somewhere or other that the population here may pass Charlotte within the next 10-20 years. Wake County already has more people than Mecklenburg County now, so it makes sense. All that says to me that hockey will remain.
Bottom line, however, is that the Canes will eventually want a new arena, and that will be State’s chance to do what Maryland did and build a modern on-campus facility that is built to exclusively meet its own needs. It may be tough to put it on the main campus, but the Centennial Campus area could be perfect, especially since I-440 is so close by.
What State should NOT be seduced by is the siren song of Raleigh’s downtown leaders wanting the Wolfpack Club to help build the downtown arena that they have been wanting forever and ever. If and when there is a new arena built, NC State should take care of NC State, period.
If they don’t go anywhere it’s because no one wants them. Last in the league in attendance by a long shot.
This is what a market economy does to losing teams. Look at the long term attendance and you can see that in the past 10 years they’ve lost 5,000 people per game on average. If the team started winning again, the attendance would shoot back up.
That, or schedule the penguins every game…
Agree with many of you. I too have complained about PNC. But I kind of had second thoughts this year when Carolina came to town.
I was trying to listen to the radio on earphones to hear the pregame. But the crowd was so loud, I couldn’t hear it. And this was sitting up on the third level with the poor folk’s season ticket holders. With the radio turned way up.
Now I have done that many times at many games, but the crowd was so amped for that game, that I gave up.And this was for a game we had very little chance of winning, 28 games into a season we all knew was going nowhere. It was GREAT. My buddy and I couldn’t stop laughing at the sheer volume, not to mention every time the band played ‘The Red and White …’ and a certain sentence was screamed. At floor level it must have been overwhelming.
Of course, eventually reality set in and the noise level came down. But for a while, early in the game, it had the intensity of the old Reynolds days. PNC was absolutely rocking.
So, I’ve come around a little, PNC is fine. As several of you noted, it should have been built on campus so that the student seats are jam packed every night. I think, the more students you put in there, the better. That’s really my only complaint. (okay, two other complaints. I don’t like the food, and what is the deal with that HS booster club wearing Carolina Blue to every game? I get it is their colors – but take a hint, change your color scheme and sell more sodas you knuckleheads!)
PNC is fine. As several of you noted, it should have been built on campus so that the student seats are jam packed every night.
I think the claim that the stadium NEEDS to be on campus to have the student section full is way overblown.
Point #1:
What’s the ratio between students that live on campus versus off campus. In the early 80’s, there were 20,000 undergrads with dorm rooms for something like 5500.Point #2:
Last time I checked, Carter-Finley was off campus and I never had a problem getting a ride to the games when I lived on campus (3 years). Why would it be any different now?The problem is the LTR’s bought by companies in the lower level that remain empty for about half of the home schedule. State wanted the money for construction and this is the consequence of getting it.
The problem I have had with PNC / RBC is that the majority of the seats are a long, long way from the court….it’s a hockey arena and that’s painfully obvious.
The other problem is that there are too many seats.
For most games, the atmosphere sucks, you can’t use the Carolina or Duke games as a barometer since we will only have 2-3 of those games a year.
We screwed up – and apparently we are doomed to play in this nightmare for perpetuity.
The Maryland example is apt – it’s exactly the right size for us. Will be a sell-out for all the good games and a TOUGH ticket for the “glory” games. THAT is what creates value for the shareholder, as opposed to selling out only the glory games.
And it should be an arena created with basketball in mind, and OUR SHADE OF F-ING RED.
Also a location that is blessed by NC State traffic engineers, please. Centennial is plenty close to downtown, you could run “R Line” shuttles.
The hockey games have only really filled the arena when the popular Yankee teams have been in town, or thousands of free/dirt cheap tickets have been made available (except for the Stanley Cup run). Didn’t work in Atlanta, and it’s a much bigger market.
As much as I LOVED the atmosphere in Reynolds even in the late ’70’s it was aged out. Not sure the PNC was the right move but it is what it is for now. Next go maybe an on campus arena – an on campus solution might be the best idea for a future arena but that is probably decades away at the closest. Reynolds (even before the makeovers) had already out lived its life span for college men’s basketball for NC State. As a venue for the women’s program maybe the right size with the latest remake. I’m glad there is a use for the hallowed ground rather than razing the building.
Yep Bjd – I think the centennial center would work and hopefully our leaders would realize the folly of trying to couple with the next city / state / county sports initiative. The end result of this soul selling is a soulless arena that while it works for a few games stinks on the whole.
UVA’s arena is nice. Pitt’s arena is a monstrosity that rivals our own (what in the heck is that area behind the benches).
The worst thing you can say about the RBC is this: I have had decent lower level seats and felt far, far away from the action. But you live and learn, like my truck, it’s paid for so ride that piece of crap until it dies on the road or catches on fire.
As much as I LOVED the atmosphere in Reynolds even in the late ’70’s it was aged out. Not sure the PNC was the right move but it is what it is for now. Next go maybe an on campus arena – an on campus solution might be the best idea for a future arena but that is probably decades away at the closest. Reynolds (even before the makeovers) had already out lived its life span for college men’s basketball for NC State. As a venue for the women’s program maybe the right size with the latest remake. I’m glad there is a use for the hallowed ground rather than razing the building.
What does aged out even mean? It was the perfect and the most unique experience of watching college bball. Hot, the bathrooms were a joke, you could feel the air vibrating. It was unlike anything else in college sports. Such a mistake to leave and we havent benefited one bit from the move. You simply cannot argue that. We had the crown jewel in college sports and not only walked away from it we blew it up to make sure we could never return.
Yep Bjd – I think the centennial center would work and hopefully our leaders would realize the folly of trying to couple with the next city / state / county sports initiative. The end result of this soul selling is a soulless arena that while it works for a few games stinks on the whole.
UVA’s arena is nice. Pitt’s arena is a monstrosity that rivals our own (what in the heck is that area behind the benches).
The worst thing you can say about the RBC is this: I have had decent lower level seats and felt far, far away from the action. But you live and learn, like my truck, it’s paid for so ride that piece of crap until it dies on the road or catches on fire.
I know a guy who played with matches when he was little and has access to flammable liquids. Just sayin. When the new arena is built it needs to be named after one of the Wolfpack greats. None of this corporate crap.
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