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I looked over KenPom’s ranking. I have to question anything that ranks Wichita St as #12 in the country.
@ Cowdog – Actually, my Grandfather finished in mid 1920’s (basketball/football/baseball/track), but was inducted in 1973. I was only a wee lad, but I remember it was a really big deal (the game) as they played a South Carolina team coached by Frank McGuire that had Alex English and Mike Dunleavy on the roster.
My Pops also did a “short tour” of Bonnies before they decided he might want to pursue other endeavors before returning and later decided to finish at Syracuse.
They had more great stories than you could shake a stick at!
I looked over KenPom’s ranking. I have to question anything that ranks Wichita St as #12 in the country.
Wait ’til they knock off Zona, Thurs. 🙂
@gso: Maybe, one day, I’ll spill the beans as to why Bob Lanier missed 8 minutes in a NCAAT game to have…A sneaker taped!!
I looked over KenPom’s ranking. I have to question anything that ranks Wichita St as #12 in the country.
Sigh. SFN, home of snark. Was it you that has blasted posters for cherry picking data in the past?
To answer your question, my input on advanced metrics is to say I don’t know what other information the committee would use other than what I listed; well also ESPN BPI. Yes I “like” this data, but if someone were to inform me of other advanced metric data the committee may have used I may like that as well.
Do with it what you want.
hijack:
For Don Horton, who coached football at both North Carolina State University and Boston College, the need for a specific kind of adaptive shirt arose when he didn’t expect it. Following a NC State loss against Maryland, Don got trapped in the locker room— unable to button his shirt— until one of his players, Russell Wilson, now quarterback for the Seattle Seahawks, helped him do so.
link:
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2016/03/15/inspired-by-husband-nc-woman-designs-adaptive-clothing-for-disabled-strikes-deal-with-major-retailers.html?intcmp=hplnwsIt would be nice if the committee used some kind of transparent methodology… Of course, of they did that there would be no need to have a committee, no all-expense paid trips, and no back-room politicking.
Good game tonight though and I am enjoying it.
Watching Wichita state play is painful… Not because of how “ugly” they play – but only because it’s pretty darn obvious being good defensively is not about talent, but rather effort and emphasis.
Vanderbilt may be as bad as any team I’ve seen play all year. Wichita looked as if it had no business in the tourney, and won by 20.
Stallings is in that Sendek, Gottfried category… Decent coach, (coach being a combo of recruiting, teaching, gameplanning, managing personnel and scheduling) – but hasnt hung banners and isn’t going to unless something catastrophic / miraculous happens.
There was never the slightest chance Wichita State wasn’t getting an at-large if they didn’t win the Missouri Valley tournament. They racked up 4-5 losses early in the year against quality competition, including several NCAA tournament teams, when their PG and reigning MVC conference POY played hurt, or didn’t play altogether. Take away close losses and they were essentially a 3 loss team in a pretty good league. They’re not as good as the teams with Cleanthony Early from a few years ago, but they’re a top 25 club
As for Kenpom, as I understand it, it is not intended to be a predictive ranking. The ranking is intended to rate what the team would do against an average opponent.
It would be nice if the committee used some kind of transparent methodology…
I don’t know if they did it this year, but for several past years the NCAA hosted a mock selection committee for various media outlets. They illustrated their process and then had groups of media go through their own selection/seeding process…including confusion caused by upsets in conference tournaments.
The talking heads refuse to learn the process, evidently preferring to make up their own rules so that they will have something to bitch about. But there are all kinds of people that do their own predictive brackets and do a fairly decent job at predicting which teams will get in. If complete outsiders can predict the results, then the selection process is not that opaque.
However, I am curious about what “advanced” metrics they are using and under what circumstances these other metrics are used. While I poked fun at kenpom/wichita st; they were included for some reason and I am interested in learning that thought process.
Yea – but that’s the thing… The conference tournaments shouldn’t create chaos – it’s just more games.
Regarding the NCAA committee – is that open to the public?
Sorry to bring this back up, but I wanted to leave a note where I would be sure to see it next year:
Syracuse entered Selection Sunday losing 5 of 6, including their opening round game in the ACCT. Their selection supports previous statements made by the Selection Committee that all wins/losses are given equal weight, regardless of when they occur in the season.
Several years ago, Iowa lost 6 of last 7 games and got in:
Syracuse’s RPI from the NCAA doesn’t agree with either CBS or ESPN. (But since the NCAA doesn’t give daily updates, their “official” numbers come out too late to be useful to us.) I believe that SYR’s NCAA ranking of 71 sets a new record low for a power conference school….and supports the outer edges of the bubble region I use in the weekly RPI updates.
Selection Committee seeding
1. Kansas
2. North Carolina
3. Virginia
4. Oregon
5. Michigan St.
6. Oklahoma
7. Villanova
8. Xavier
9. West Virginia
10. Miami (FL)
11. Utah
12. Texas A&M
13. Duke
14. California
15. Kentucky
16. Iowa St.
17. Indiana
18. Purdue
19. Maryland
20. Baylor
21. Texas
22. Notre Dame
23. Arizona
24. Seton Hall
25. Wisconsin
26. Dayton
27. Iowa
28. Oregon St.
29. Texas Tech
30. Colorado
31. Southern California
32. Saint Joseph’s
33. Providence
34. Butler
35. Cincinnati
36. UConn
37. Pittsburgh
38. Temple
39. Syracuse
40. VCU
41. Vanderbilt
42. Michigan
43. Wichita St.
44. Gonzaga
45. Tulsa
—————Last at-large bid
46. UNI
47. Chattanooga
48. Little Rock
49. Yale
50. South Dakota St.
51. UNCW
52. Hawaii
53. Stony Brook
54. Iona
55. Green Bay
56. Buffalo
57. Fresno St.
58. Stephen F. Austin
59. Middle Tenn.
60. CSU Bakersfield
61. UNC Asheville
62. Weber St.
63. Austin Peay
64. Hampton
65. FGCU
66. Fairleigh Dickinson
67. Southern U.
68. Holy Cross
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