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In the past week, the News and Observer has dropped the academic bomb on the University of North Carolina. An investigation into the African and Afro-
[See the full post at: Roy Williams, 3 percent, and Swahili]Nice Ruffles, I pointed this out on the first day it came out how misleading that 3% number is, and why I was surprised no one followed up with that possibly being an overwhelming majority of the team.
That was “way too confusing” for a Hole grad or fan…Don’t confuse them with statistics and facts.
"Whomp 'em, Up, Side the Head"!
The N&O only addresses basketball and football; how many other “student” athletes from other sports were taking these classes? That 39% figure of athletes taking those classes may shoot up significantly if you look beyond just the two sports. If say 65% taking these courses were athletes, that’s an extremely large percentage compared to the student body and is major indicator that the whole department was giving preferential treatment to athletes. As if we don’t already know that’s the case…
Someone should ask ol’ Drew R. what he thinks about about that, Triad.
Nice work with the numbers, Ruffles. It’s interesting that this is the BEST CASE SCENARIO for UNC Basketball and the Swahili prong. This is assuming all unknown facts in their favor. Reality is probably somewhere far from “in their favor.” However, until more transparency is known, this is the best possible assumption.
Again, with misleading information such as “3%” out there, an independent investigation is absolutely 100% necessary.
Maybe basketball and football players only make up a small percentage the total number of students that took the class, a very high percentage of players on those teams took the class, if that makes sense.
If is is found that basketball players were on the receiving end of grade changes, and/or got credit for courses with no professor, and they played even just one second of a game; doesn’t that make them ineligible? Then, is UNX looking at vacating wins, final fours, and championships? Or, is this no longer a concern for the NCAA? Or does it become a concern with them again if the SBI investigates and finds wrong doing?
In addition to looking at the numerator of the equation, consider the denominator as well. The undergraduate population may be 18,500, but what was it for summer school, when most of these classes allegedly occurred? Fastest relevant figure I could find (from the UNC web site) was 8500 in 2006, and that may include grad students. Damn cheaters even cheat at reporting on their own cheating.
If the statistics are correct and the vast majority of the students taking these courses were non-athletes, then don’t we as the lunatic fringe have a duty to find some of theses non-athletic swahili educated individuals and get some info? There must be thousands out there.
Swahili is just the tip of the iceberg here. The walls are really going to come down when someone starts digging into the Pig Latin classes.
This is an excellent post, but I’d like to respectfully request a correction. You stated “1. A soldier who graduated from North Carolina around the year 2000…”
Could you edit to change the word “soldier” to “Marine”, or even “servicemember”? I know it might seem like a minor distinction to the uninitiated, but to Marines, it’s an error of no small significance.
No disrespect to our soldiers intended. It’s somewhat like calling them sailors, or vice versa. Quite frankly, I wish it weren’t a Marine that took this idiot course.
Many thanks.
I didn’t think the 3% meant the percentage of the team. It was the percentage of the class. 3% is 50 times greater than the basketball players make up in the student population. That is where the discrepancy in appreciation of the 3% number by the masses lies.
I wonder when UNC says 36% football, 3% basketball, 19% Olympic Sports. Ok, I get that. UNC then claims the rest were not student-athletes. Ok, what were they?
Where they volunteers for various teams? student managers? otherwise involved in the athletic programs and departments? I would love to know the answer to that question. My guess is of the remaining non-athletes, a good portion of them are indeed involved in the athletic programs at UNC.
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