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09/11/2014 at 8:00 AM #559891.21 JigawattsKeymaster
ROAD TRIP!!!!! The Wolfpack take to the road for their first away game of the season against the Bulls of South Florida. They must have their own Maso
[See the full post at: NC State Wolfpack at South Florida Bulls Preview]09/11/2014 at 8:58 AM #55991JackWolfKeymasterSolid preview. Thanks
09/11/2014 at 9:51 AM #55993GreywolfParticipantThanks for the work on the preview. I don’t agree with some of your reasoning but hey, we don’t have to agree do we?
I think our road record before these coaches and huge number of sophs and frosh got here is really of no consequence to them. I can’t see Doeren wringing his hands saying, “Woe is me. Our road record sucks.” Just like our winning 5 in a row didn’t bother *nc.
I hope Taggart plays with 2 tight ends the whole game. Bring a crowd together at the line of scrimmage. Running lanes are far more available in the spread than in a tight formation.
I disagree with the Bulls having an advantage over our offense but like I said, so what that we disagree. Just because MD turned it over 6 times doesn’t mean we will.
Again thanks for the work and thought you put into this post.
09/11/2014 at 10:10 AM #55996BJD95KeymasterTheir kicker is also their best player, by a long shot. Twilight Zone stuff here.
09/11/2014 at 10:17 AM #559971.21 JigawattsKeymasterThanks for the work on the preview. I don’t agree with some of your reasoning but hey, we don’t have to agree do we?
I think our road record before these coaches and huge number of sophs and frosh got here is really of no consequence to them. I can’t see Doeren wringing his hands saying, “Woe is me. Our road record sucks.” Just like our winning 5 in a row didn’t bother *nc.
I hope Taggart plays with 2 tight ends the whole game. Bring a crowd together at the line of scrimmage. Running lanes are far more available in the spread than in a tight formation.
I disagree with the Bulls having an advantage over our offense but like I said, so what that we disagree. Just because MD turned it over 6 times doesn’t mean we will.
Again thanks for the work and thought you put into this post.
I did mention USF is a conundrum. Their defense was awful against WCU but forced lots of TO’s and held Maryland in check. Who knows what they’ll do against State but I have to base my reasoning on something and 2 games isn’t much, for both teams.
As for the road record, yes Doeren won’t be harping on the negative but it does point out just how bad State has been on the road with most of the current players.
As much as I want to say State is better than a team that went 2-10 last year and was awful, State was just as awful and outside of an improvement in QB, what has State shown that they are head and shoulders better than USF in doing?
09/11/2014 at 11:22 AM #56003mak4dpakParticipantTrust the defense continues to work out their tackling woes, and pass coverage. I think we will see improvement, and on a side note I will be curious to see how GT does against GS.
09/11/2014 at 12:51 PM #56006ncsu1987ParticipantI believe we’ll see continued improvement on the D this week. USF’s offense is far more unidimensional that what we’ve seen so far, so our young D unit can focus very effectively during preparations.
Biggest concern is that we’ve given up some monster single plays – have to watch out for that in the form of the USF offense trying to keep us honest.
If our offensive improvement continues, they’ll have trouble keeping us out of the end zone.
With young teams, anything is possible. Likely a nail-biter, and thus very entertaining.
09/11/2014 at 1:01 PM #56007GreywolfParticipant1.21 Jigawatts,
I wish I knew how to give you a heads up that I was going to do a counterpoint type response.
You say, “Who knows what they’ll do against State but I have to base my reasoning on something and 2 games isn’t much, for both teams.” Well hell, there’s not much to base a counterpoint on either. 😉 When I said ‘I don’t agree with some of your reasoning…’ I didn’t say you were wrong. Until we play a few games more games, how will we know either way?
I’m involved in a discussion with Ryebread, Tuffy2 and foose on the ODU stats thread. The counterpoints and differences in opinions stated enhance the whole conversation — actually being cause for deeper explanations of some great explanations of what may be going on with the Wolf (Wildcat) and more by foose. My intention here was to provide the another point of view possibly enrich the conversation in this thread.
If I misinterpreted or failed to take into account some point or points made, I apologize as I had no such intention. Otherwise, thank you again for your excellent preview of the USD game.
Greywolf
09/11/2014 at 1:36 PM #560081.21 JigawattsKeymasterGrey, it’s okay. My response wasn’t one in anger, just USF was beyond awful last season, had some promise heading into this one but still not much better than a couple of more wins and then the 2 games they’ve had this year were polar opposites in their play on the field. I can’t even make a guess of how their defense will play. If USF’s defensive results for the first 2 games had been reversed against their opponents then it would be easier to infer how they might play against the Pack but as of right now they are a bigger mystery on defense than anything State has shown on offense. Their RB Mack had a video game performance against WCU but wasn’t close to as effective against MD and both their QB’s are lacking. The only guarantee is their Kicker and he alone I think will keep them in the game as long as USF can get him to atleast the 35 yard line.
The Maryland game may have been a fluke and they still aren’t any better than they were last year or against WCU but maybe they are. State has put up average numbers in both rushing and passing against GSU and ODU, the latter I think everyone would agree has a horrible defense. Taking what we’ve seen from last year and this year for both teams, it’s just as safe to say State will struggle running the ball against USF as it is to say State will easily handle USF’s run defense. The real question is has USF improved at defense because we haven’t seen any big improvements from State.
No ill will and I welcome anyone who is willing to have an honest conversation, whether we agree or disagree. What is it about my reasoning that you disagree with? Explain to me your point of view.
09/11/2014 at 2:05 PM #56010GreywolfParticipantWhat is it about my reasoning that you disagree with? Explain to me your point of view.
Your reasoning makes perfect sense, it’s your conclusions I didn’t agree with. 😉
BTW Have you been following the NC State Football By The Numbers – Post ODU Edition? Some good stuff buried in there.
09/11/2014 at 3:13 PM #560121.21 JigawattsKeymasterWell we all know I’m half full of crap in predicting conclusions, just look at my Politiboro results.
Just skimmed it. It’s the craziest time of year now that youth sports has started up again. A coach’s job is never done.
09/11/2014 at 8:34 PM #56014TheCOWDOGModeratorJiggsie. Your prognostications ain’t half bad at all.
I just wondered why ya had ODU up there this AM on the facials.
09/11/2014 at 9:04 PM #56015tjfoose1ParticipantGeorgia State plays at GT this weekend. That gives us two games to learn a little something about the ‘Pack..
09/12/2014 at 3:04 AM #56016mak4dpakParticipantSorry, but that would be Georgia Southern at GT.
09/12/2014 at 3:30 AM #56017tjfoose1Participant^ Oops, yeah, what he said. Georgia Southern I meant. The Georgia boys the Wolfpack faced in game 1.
09/12/2014 at 9:59 AM #56022ncsu1987ParticipantTwenty-four hours out, and Twitter this morning is still reporting the starting USF QB (White) to be a game-time decision. How bad is that next quarterback?
09/12/2014 at 10:35 AM #56023WufpackerParticipantHis last name is Bench, soooo…
Statistically, he appears to be a slight downgrade, but that’s based on limited numbers/chances so it’s hard to tell. Which probably means if he plays, he has a career day in the offing for us. His best day on the field seems to have been the USF Green/White game this year.
The best news is that he doesn’t appear to have a significantly different skillset from White, thus preparation shouldn’t be muddied.
09/12/2014 at 10:47 AM #56024ncsu1987ParticipantThe pressure is on for the D to step up specifically against this opponent. Looks like our offense can outgun their’s, but only if our offense is on the field. We need marked improvement from the front 6 against the run.
I’ve no doubt that this has been the focus of defensive preparations, so it will be interesting to see the extent to which these youngsters can execute the plan in a road environment. Some quick stops early on will be a huge confidence builder.
09/12/2014 at 1:19 PM #56026package5Participantyour charts list ODU
09/12/2014 at 1:57 PM #56028bill.onthebeachParticipant… maybe I’m easy to please….
but long as we play better on both sides of the ball than we did last week…
I’ll let the score take of itself and be happy….To get where we ALL want to be with our football program….
We can’t forget “This is a ‘marathon… not a sprint.’On the other hand… the first “official” Basketball practice is in 33 days…
Ya’ll GOTT this.#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!09/12/2014 at 2:09 PM #560291.21 JigawattsKeymasteryour charts list ODU
Thanks for your quality input. I’m sure no one can over look me using the same chart each week and the obvious mistake of forgetting to change those 2 blocks this week.
Maybe we can refund everyone’s monthly fee and print a retraction?
09/12/2014 at 2:43 PM #56030pakfanistanParticipantGod forbid someone give you a hand proofreading.
09/12/2014 at 3:15 PM #56031TheCOWDOGModeratorDamn, Jiggsie. Guess I won’t be the one telling you about that nose hair thingy.
09/12/2014 at 4:31 PM #560321.21 JigawattsKeymasterYeah, today’s not a good day to get on my bad side. Best to let me discover that hanger on my own.
It’s a minor error that doesn’t take away from the article. You guys also don’t realize that it’s not as simple as fixing a word.doc when editing. It isn’t difficult but I wasn’t going to spend the time fixing it.
09/12/2014 at 4:38 PM #56033pakfanistanParticipantYeah, today’s not a good day to get on my bad side. Best to let me discover that hanger on my own.
It’s a minor error that doesn’t take away from the article. You guys also don’t realize that it’s not as simple as fixing a word.doc when editing. It isn’t difficult but I wasn’t going to spend the time fixing it.
I’ll have you know I’m kind of a big deal in the wordpress blog community.
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