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18 shots by Turner. 14 3’s…You have to be kidding me…
That’s disgusting. Says a lot about no adjustments from the sideline.
How many games have been played this year? Enough. This is not on the coach, this is on the players for coming out flat. Their own mentality, after a big win over unc. Lacey, Turner, Barber, our big scorers just not in it today, and when they are not, we are not, spelling another loss. Tis getting old. We better win the last two. or we are out of the dance.
^mak, I beg to differ. Totally on coaches. Preparation, execution, and game management completely lacking today.
I think as a player, these results have to be confusing. You wonder why you hear the same old coach speak and player babble: “we didn’t have enough energy,” “we’ve got to play for 40 minutes,” “we just couldn’t known down shots,” yada, yada…BS. If this is what your coach is selling, and accepting, then you’re going to continue to see plenty of bed crappings.
I don’t always beat on coaches but when I do, it’s the assistant coaches!!
I agree about an earlier post regarding more excitement from Gott…..but maybe that’s just what inspired me?
Gottfried on the postgame radio defending the jumpshots. I’m shocked by this.
He knows we didn’t have energy, knows we were leaving shots short – yet we kept doing it. I simply do not understand the logic of this.
Tired and no energy is not an excuse.
This is not on the coach, this is on the players for coming out flat.
I agree. When you look at Gott’s career at Bama and so far at State, you see a team that consistently defends well, rebounds well and is rarely on the bubble.
I don’t know why this team is so different than his others.
The starting 5 should have watched the game from the bench. They brought no fire, hustle, intensity at all. Even if the shots aren’t falling there is no excuse for that wet defensive turd that state leaked out all over the floor in Boston.
Right now, our bigs just clog up space on offense. It was clear early in the year, that if we were to continue the plodding style of play on offense, to continue trying to run some version of the UCLA high post, we’d be forced to choose between interior players who were deficient on defense or offense, or both. WE’ve been an outside-in team pretty much all year, so no suprises on the jumpshots. Shot selection for Lacy and Turner is still a problem. Similar to TOB, we’re trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Defensively, same old same old.
Said it all year, even when he was struggling, Barber needs more shots, not less. OUr best offense is him creating off the dribble, spacing, and the bigs getting the heck out of the way. Defensively, there is no cure this late. Just pray for off nights for the opposition, or good matchups, or a combo of both.
Honestly….did anyone really expect anything different today? Someone said were were 1-14 after beating Duke/UNC….we are actually 1-19 overall after a big win over the Blues. No performance, no defense, no show….typical NC State basketball after a big win. I told my better half wish had not made such a big deal with the campus celebration over the win against Cheats….we can’t handle success or admiration.
Today is why I try and stay grounded with NC State basketball…knew it was coming. What pisses me off is that you don’t see good programs, not necessary good teams, tank like NC State does after a big win. Or a big loss. You never see the Blues or most other teams in ACC do this. Course, most teams don’t get so emotional over beating a team like UNC unless you are Clemson.
Think about it….we just lost to the worst team in the ACC and perhaps D1 knowing we need to win to make the Dance. If the kids can’t get up for this type game or atmosphere, then not sure if its on the staff or kids. And don’t give me this “dealing with 18 yr old” crap…we are almost 30 games into the season with so much on the line. We are NC State.I am glad I was coaching my kids basketball games today and did not watch us lay another Gott.
We are who we thought we were
Honestly….did anyone really expect anything different today?
Yes.
Yea but Bass – how come some 18 year olds give consistent effort and others do not?
Here’s a question: Give Gott UVa’s roster – what do you think the results are?
Give Gott Duke’s roster – what do you think the results are?
OTOH, I bet his results at Wake or GaTech or BC would have been better than what they have had.He is a good coach. He’s not a great one. As much as it makes us pull our hair out – he’s been pretty consistent in Raleigh and Bama.
Right now, our bigs just clog up space on offense. It was clear early in the year, that if we were to continue the plodding style of play on offense, to continue trying to run some version of the UCLA high post, we’d be forced to choose between interior players who were deficient on defense or offense, or both. WE’ve been an outside-in team pretty much all year, so no suprises on the jumpshots. Shot selection for Lacy and Turner is still a problem. Similar to TOB, we’re trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Defensively, same old same old.
Said it all year, even when he was struggling, Barber needs more shots, not less. OUr best offense is him creating off the dribble, spacing, and the bigs getting the heck out of the way. Defensively, there is no cure this late. Just pray for off nights for the opposition, or good matchups, or a combo of both.
^That’s fine overall, but after the 10:00 mark of this game it was clearly time to attempt to generate energy. Press, sub, attack the basket. If you’re not going to play any defense and they’re not able to hit open shots – and you know this – then why not adjust? I’ll be the first to admit that I know little and that all is not clear from the couch, but damn.
If you know that they players have no energy and are heavy-legged (Gott’s words) – then why keep doing what is clearly failing? Open shots are great, but you can’t say ‘the players were dead and heavy-legged and leaving shots short’ and have one guy shoot 14 threes – open or otherwise. Madness. It was as if we thought we had a secret bag of pixie dust to spread around and then all of a sudden we’d start playing D and hitting shots.
I now understand. Seriously.
Until Gott changes himself (and I’m not talking coaching), his teams will continue to rise to the challenge when facing adversity, but continue to fail miserably in the midst of success. Think about it. If you know Gott’s history, and watched the u*nc post game, you’ll get it.
It won’t change. Accept the roller coaster. Enjoy the highs, expect the lows. Beat’s the helloutta everything we’ve had since V.
Football, on the other hand, is different. DD will quench your thirst for excellence and consistency.
Until Gott changes himself (and I’m not talking coaching), his teams will continue to rise to the challenge when facing adversity, but continue to fail miserably in the midst of success.
^I think there’s merit to this. There’s a reason the cliche/saying ‘Teams adopt the personality of their coach’ exists.
Also agree totally about ‘best since V’.
Also agree totally about ‘best since V’.
It’s a shame that bar is so low.
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