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03/24/2016 at 4:43 PM #101691choppack1Participant
Does it matter? This is why I called bs on the “lacy surprise.” Who cares? You know when excuses are valid – if you don’t make them every damn season.
With this departure, I can already hear the excuses now. It doesn’t matter – gott should be judged on his record…not given a pass when these surprises happen on consecutive years. He deserves a chance to coach this team next season – he should be fired if he misses the tournament. We should consider firing him if he doesn’t have better than 7 seed.
03/24/2016 at 5:14 PM #101697wolfpack92owenParticipantDoes it matter? This is why I called bs on the “lacy surprise.” Who cares? You know when excuses are valid – if you don’t make them every damn season.
With this departure, I can already hear the excuses now. It doesn’t matter – gott should be judged on his record…not given a pass when these surprises happen on consecutive years. He deserves a chance to coach this team next season – he should be fired if he misses the tournament. We should consider firing him if he doesn’t have better than 7 seed.
I think even the most avid gott supporters are livid at this. Clearly something is going on rather then the tired “lack of pt”.
03/24/2016 at 5:37 PM #101698AeightParticipantThis basketball program is nothing but one big cluster…. They can’t recruit nobody, can’t keep nobody. When they do get a recruit they have to steal one from Elon, or Guilford. That’s where the twins belong anyway, so no great loss with them leaving, but it does hurt with bench depth. Gott has lost this thing in a big way. Debbie better get a handle on this quick, we are the laughing stock of the conference now. Next year we won’t be able to compete with Elon or Guilford.
03/24/2016 at 5:42 PM #101699pakfanistanParticipantHot takes! Get your hot takes here!
03/24/2016 at 5:44 PM #101700JasonPParticipant5 spots open right? Who’s got some eligibility left? When’s tryouts?
03/24/2016 at 5:54 PM #101702WolfanaticParticipantI don’t wish to start anything, but to say that Gott only plays seven every year is demonstrably false. Yes, only seven averaged double figures in minutes played this past season, and that was the case in 2012-13. But, in 2013-14 and 2014-15 nine players averaged doubled figures in minutes. In his first season, eight players managed double figures. Had Henderson not been injured Maverick would not have averaged 33 plus minutes, so at least eight would have averaged double figures. Nine would, had we had them available.
I’m not going to whine about the Martin boys leaving…They got plenty of minutes this past season and other than an occasional good shooting night by Caleb, they hardly seem like ACC material.. We shall see where they transfer to. To whine because we are losing “warm bodies” seems silly. Where else in our conference would they become a more integral part of the offense? Which team in our conference really wants them? This is not to denigrate them. CD is right. They see the handwriting on the wall, and want to play two years somewhere else. Fine. That is their prerogative. I wish them all the best and thank them for their efforts, and hope that Gott does his recruiting job this off season..Go Pack…
03/24/2016 at 5:59 PM #101703wolfpack92owenParticipantAbu is testing.
I feel like I need an apology
03/24/2016 at 6:04 PM #101705JasonPParticipantGood take Wolfanatic
03/24/2016 at 6:11 PM #101706tractor57ParticipantCoach Cal says everyone in a UK uniform who can will be testing the waters (walk ons included). Not that I claim the situations are anything near similar but the landscape of college basketball has changed with the change in the rules for declaring for the NBA. In some ways the same has happened with transfers to other schools. I’m not absolving Gott regarding the situation either. Time will tell if he deserves to remain coach or not.
03/24/2016 at 6:30 PM #101710WolftownVA81ParticipantWith the open scholarships and Gottfried’s preference for playing a short bench, I don’t see how we can compete with the type of turnover we have. I agree with posters that say something more is going on than just lack of PT. I was on the fence but now think we need a change.
03/24/2016 at 6:38 PM #101711TheAliasTrollParticipantI agree the twins weren’t anything special in this conference but losing the better one of the two (forget if that’s Caleb or Cody) who would have come back with a year of experience as a junior is more than likely going to be quite detrimental to next years team. Then we lose the 2nd one that would also be a junior to further compound the issue.
Another log on the fire is that now he’s getting a valid reputation that players look to leave this program which is going to hurt recruiting. Anybody think other competing coaches aren’t bringing this tidbit up to recruits?
I gave MG a long leash for this year but it doesn’t appear we are building towards anything right now.
Damn shame because I think MG would be a pretty good coach with the right personnel.
03/24/2016 at 6:45 PM #101712BJD95KeymasterHis flaws are fatal.
03/24/2016 at 6:48 PM #101713WufpackerParticipantAbu is testing.
I feel like I need an apology
Yep. I’m sure you do. It’s in your nature.
03/24/2016 at 6:53 PM #101715WolfanaticParticipantIf Gott has failed in any way, it is probably in the quality of the kids that he recruited. How many Gott defectors would you like to have back? How many showed promise but did not progress? How many thought they deserved more time and, in reality, did not? Save Purvis, I can’t think of one defector that I regret and I’m not sure that I regret Purvis (we still don’t know about Kyle). If we were having players leave and go on to be great at a comparable university, then okay. I haven’t seen it yet.
03/24/2016 at 6:57 PM #101716wolfpack92owenParticipantIf Gott has failed in any way, it is probably in the quality of the kids that he recruited. How many Gott defectors would you like to have back? How many showed promise but did not progress? How many thought they deserved more time and, in reality, did not? Save Purvis, I can’t think of one defector that I regret and I’m not sure that I regret Purvis (we still don’t know about Kyle). If we were having players leave and go on to be great at a comparable university, then okay. I haven’t seen it yet.
I would like to have them all back, to build a team, build chemistry, learn with one another.
03/24/2016 at 7:19 PM #101720Whiteshoes67ParticipantThis is why I’m a baseball fan.Even Ea’s stunts cannot ruin spring
03/24/2016 at 7:24 PM #101721WufpackerParticipantThis is why I’m a baseball fan.Even Ea’s stunts cannot ruin spring
LMAO…now let’s not go overboard ’67.
03/24/2016 at 7:26 PM #101722WulfpackParticipantAbu is gone as well. Mass exodus yet again in Raleigh. Maybe we can compete for a 12 seed next year – in the ACC.
03/24/2016 at 7:30 PM #101723pakfanistanParticipantIs Abu GONE or is he entering the draft? Because the rules are different now. He’s not gone until he’s GONE.
Not that I think he’s staying, I don’t know.
03/24/2016 at 7:35 PM #101724WulfpackParticipantNo, not gone. Got wrong info from a pal. He has not hired an agent. Testing waters. We shall see…
03/24/2016 at 7:37 PM #101726RickKeymasterI thought he was only averaging 2 1/2 players a year. I was wrong it’s three a year.
The only question now is when and do we screw up getting Archie.
03/24/2016 at 7:43 PM #101727TheAliasTrollParticipantESPN says Abu is gone? http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/15059973/twins-caleb-cody-martin-transferring-nc-state-wolfpack
The exodus at NC State continued Thursday as twins Caleb and Cody Martin announced that they will transfer and Abdul-Malik Abu will forego his final two seasons to enter the NBA draft.
No bueno, amigos.
03/24/2016 at 7:44 PM #101729TheAliasTrollParticipantoh nevermind, apparently they sensationalized it.. later on it says he doesn’t sign with an agent.. turds.
03/24/2016 at 7:57 PM #101732WolfanaticParticipantGood riddance to all three of them…..Better team chemistry will result…..
03/24/2016 at 8:00 PM #101733TheAliasTrollParticipantLol CD are you addressing me or did a post get deleted? Fun times AGAIN on the SFN forums!
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