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10/28/2014 at 12:57 PM #60075GowolvesParticipant
Ryebread, Certainly you don’t believe this is a academic issue? This would have NEVER been concocted if not for the plight of the student athlete at UNC. And I use the term student-athlete very loosely. I do agree it spills over to the accreditation process but that’s because of the non-athletes who got involved and the length of time this fraud was going on.
10/28/2014 at 5:58 PM #60092wufpup76Keymaster<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>packof81 wrote:</div>
What is absolutely disturbing to Emmert is that he has already cut a backroom deal with Swofford to go easy on UNC and now all this comes out.Do we have a source for this, or is it NC State conspiracy theory nuttery?
^It seemed pretty tongue-in-cheek to me.
10/29/2014 at 9:14 AM #60106GowolvesParticipanthttp://www.newsobserver.com/2014/10/28/4272285_christensen-bill-friday-brought.html?sp=/99/100/&rh=1
This is the first time I have heard that the Pack was involved in this scandal. Been a fan for 40 plus years and always thought it was just UNC.
10/29/2014 at 9:51 AM #60107bill.onthebeachParticipant^yep… the State boys took the money and didn’t shave….
the Carolina Boys were more ‘honest’…. just ask Doug Moe or Larry Brown…Now … I’m wondering if Mr. Christensen’s current purpose in reminding all of us of this ancient tale… is to put a little no-so-subtle pressure on the current Board of Trustees over in Chapel Hill… by throwing the “Wildcard” in the game ?
There’s only one or two “saints” over there that rank higher than Dean and Mr. Friday is certainly one of the them….
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!10/29/2014 at 9:56 AM #60108VaWolf82KeymasterAll I want for Christmas is for UNC to receive the double whammy — the Death Penalty in sports paired with a significant knock on their academic standing.
– If you could show that the athletic dept was behind the scam, then this would be a real possibility.
– If you could show that certain coaches knew and covered it up, then it would at least be a possibility (but but probably not high probability) for those sports.
– If you don’t tie the academic scam to the athletic dept, then there is no chance of a death penalty.10/29/2014 at 1:51 PM #60121WolfanaticParticipantI think that all State fans would relish the imposition of the “Death Penalty” upon UNC, but realistically, while it probably should be imposed, it won’t be. The NCAA has not levied the death penalty on any Division One program since the “Ponygate” incident at SMU in 1987. The severity of the penalty was such that the SMU football program was utterly destroyed , and when they did return to the field, twenty straight losing seasons ensued. The loss of money was devastating for the school at large. The NCAA realized the effects of the death penalty, and it has not doled it out again. The NCAA recently relaxed and lifted the penalties they handed out for the most egregious and disgusting behavior in college football history at Penn State. In light of that, I may be wrong, but unfortunately, I don’t see the death penalty being handed down to UNC. Tis a shame, but I think that the NCAA’s version of “Ole Sparky” will remain empty.
10/29/2014 at 2:29 PM #60125gso packbackerParticipantThe rub for me is that if the NCAA does essentially nothing further, then is this not the new model to operate under for maintaining athlete eligibility? Also, what the heck does the meaning of institutional control become? Apparently coaches are only responsible for “controlling” the athletics portion of the student-athlete. I’d sure be more than pissed at that thought if I was a college professor.
10/29/2014 at 5:07 PM #60143MikeParticipantI think that all State fans would relish the imposition of the “Death Penalty” upon UNC, but realistically, while it probably should be imposed, it won’t be. The NCAA has not levied the death penalty on any Division One program since the “Ponygate” incident at SMU in 1987. The severity of the penalty was such that the SMU football program was utterly destroyed , and when they did return to the field, twenty straight losing seasons ensued. The loss of money was devastating for the school at large. The NCAA realized the effects of the death penalty, and it has not doled it out again. The NCAA recently relaxed and lifted the penalties they handed out for the most egregious and disgusting behavior in college football history at Penn State. In light of that, I may be wrong, but unfortunately, I don’t see the death penalty being handed down to UNC. Tis a shame, but I think that the NCAA’s version of “Ole Sparky” will remain empty.
well shame on SMU – I think THAT is hte point of the death penalty. Make the penalty so harsh the schools will not be tempted to cheat. Seems to me the death penalty was just that not just for the period of no games but harsh to build the program up again. For these reasons the NCAA SHOULD give UNX the death penalty – make them suffer for their years of blatant cheating in what has to be the worst cheating scandal in history.
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