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01/23/2015 at 7:33 AM #70966wufpup76Keymaster
Did ya’ll hear about the CAT ATTACK…
I missed that at the end of the game…If any idiot starts chortling about Barber turning around to say something, can we please come together and rip said idiot to shreds? I’m beyond f’ing sick of the “you can’t/shouldn’t defend yourself!!” mentality that’s shoved down everyone’s throats starting in grade school.
Depending upon my mood, it’s just as likely that I turn around and break that fucker’s GD hand as it is that I’d just walk away.
Yeah, I know – there’s merit to just walking away, especially when you’re publicly representing a team, university, job, etc … But these kids already take tons of verbal abuse on the road and some jackass is going to pull that? Here’s a f’ing shocker, people tend to behave better when they know there are consequences to their actions.
You’re welcome for your idiotic talking points today, local sports talk radio.
01/23/2015 at 7:58 AM #70967RickKeymasterSpintk if it makes you feel any better no one really likes me either most of my opinions shared are contrarian or else why share them if they aren’t interesting? You can’t change deeply engrained minds – just share your thoughts and move on. Its nothing if not cathartic. I feel like I just rubbed one out with my post I can sleep now. Goodnight all.
I actually like most of your posts for what it is worth. I am not a huge Gott fan but I also do not think he is awful. I think he is an upgraded Herb with a ceiling (albeit higher than the one Herb had).
I am really confused by the disapearance of the high post, at least the way we ran it his first two years. It was very effective.01/23/2015 at 8:10 AM #70968Fastback68ParticipantWith all the whiney ass cry babies, You’d think we had a team with enough talent to put MJ and LaBron on the bench.
This place is becoming a douche magnet.
Out of line? I don’t think so but I’m ok with a ban.
Foose, this is what happens when you disappear for two months for what I assume was a Highlander type reflection montage with regards to your role on SFN. Your blade is so sharp the idiot in question walks away in ham like sections without even realizing it, much like the diced cartoon cat. I know it gets tiresome for you but SFN takes a serious drop in overall quality when you don’t post.
01/23/2015 at 8:30 AM #70969RickKeymasterWith all the whiney ass cry babies, You’d think we had a team with enough talent to put MJ and LaBron on the bench.
This place is becoming a douche magnet.
Out of line? I don’t think so but I’m ok with a ban.
Foose, this is what happens when you disappear for two months for what I assume was a Highlander type reflection montage with regards to your role on SFN. Your blade is so sharp the idiot in question walks away in ham like sections without even realizing it, much like the diced cartoon cat. I know it gets tiresome for you but SFN takes a serious drop in overall quality when you don’t post.
I happen to agree despite the fact I have been on the wrong end of that blade lately.
01/23/2015 at 8:49 AM #70970TheCOWDOGModeratorRick. Why dontcha come on over to this end, and let me buy you a beer?
01/23/2015 at 8:56 AM #70971packplantpathParticipantI do not like Gott. At all. Not even a little bit. It didn’t start out that way, it just crept up and I don’t really know why. If he got us to the elite 8 this year, I still would not like him and would be ok with firing him. I know, aren’t you glad I’m not in charge 🙂
But, having said that, I’m ok with last night. I also didn’t watch the whole game. Some boneheaded plays, bad turnovers, etc. But in general they did most of the things they needed to and sometimes the ball just didn’t go in. It happens.
The biggest thing I saw is it seems he needs to work on keeping them out of panic mode. With 3 minutes to go and one guy decides he is going to pretend he is still in high school and is 10X better than everybody else and will drive to the basket and score. Down 2 scores with 2-3 minutes it was like they suddenly decided to quit running plays sometimes. That goes on coaching and I felt a time out was needed to rein that in. But I don’t remember what the timeout situation looked like then either.
01/23/2015 at 9:09 AM #70973redcanineParticipantLarranega has taken Shane Larkin and Angel Rodriguez and turned them into excellent point guards. Or maybe he just has a superb eye for talent? Either way, he’s blessed that Miami program.
My only criticism of last night’s game is that we didn’t go to the rack enough. They gave us plenty of space to drive, IMO, by playing us so close. We only attempted 4 free throws. I’m talking about the whole team, not just one or two guys.
01/23/2015 at 9:45 AM #70975TexpackParticipantI’m back into the stupid proxy server crap that won’t let me get to the forums. This happened once before and the prescribed fixes didn’t work. It just healed itself somehow. The problem is only on the laptop. Doesn’t matter what network it is connected to. iPad can access the forums just fine from the same networks.
Any suggestions?
01/23/2015 at 9:56 AM #70976redisgoodParticipant^ I’m having the same issue as well. It started yesterday. I cannot access forums from my desktop. iPhone and iPad seem to be okay though. I can only get to the SFN Home Page on my desktop. “HTTP Error 400” whatever that means.
01/23/2015 at 9:57 AM #70977TexpackParticipantAs for the game last night, it’s another example of how dependent we are on Lacey and Turner. Even with the offensive showing from Abu and KW in double figures, we didn’t have enough offense. We never made them collapse and double anybody and they were determined to keep BSW from getting going.
I thought we got a lot of good looks that rimmed out and could have easily won the game with a tad more shooter’s good fortune. The loose TO’s drive me nuts. Those cost us dearly and so did the lack of three pointers.
That was the best officiated game I have watched in a long time. Rebounders were rewarded for position and they didn’t allow people to do the “Tyler Two Step” all night. I’ll take that crew for every game the rest of the season.
The dude that touched/pushed Cat shouldn’t be allowed back in the arena for at least the rest of the season
01/23/2015 at 11:08 AM #70978BJD95KeymasterEspecially with what Cat has been through lately, that’s a remarkably restrained reaction from him. That student should definitely be barred from games the rest of the season. No excuse for that. Where is security in that arena?
01/23/2015 at 11:19 AM #70979tractor57ParticipantI was impressed with Cat’s response (or lack thereof) and much less impressed with security at Miami.
01/23/2015 at 11:29 AM #70981fullmoon1ParticipantThat fan is dang lucky that cat showed some reservation, it looked like the fan uttered a quick apology after cat have him the look. It’s obvious cat would have dismantled this guy in about 3 seconds. The refs should have been all over that, at least given Miami a warning as they do when fans throw things. It seems the university of myhami handled pretty well although after the fact. An apology was issued by the ad and the coach spoke with gott about it in the hallway.
01/23/2015 at 11:30 AM #70983fullmoon1ParticipantEvidently basketball arenas that seat less than 200 don’t offer much in the way of security.
01/23/2015 at 11:37 AM #70984redisgoodParticipantI’m not even sure the kid was a student. I’m hearing he’s the son of a wealthy Miami lawyer. Probably has a block of season tickets in the front row. If so, hopefully the university takes back the tickets.
01/23/2015 at 12:26 PM #70985RickKeymasterRick. Why dontcha come on over to this end, and let me buy you a beer?
Gentler, kinder Rick is paying divdends already
Thank you good sir.01/23/2015 at 12:32 PM #70986WolftownVA81ParticipantI’m ok with this loss except that I know we could have won if we had mentally stayed in the game for 40 minutes. Regarding the fan who pushed Cat, where is King Karl when you need him. He could have ejected him retro actively or failing that put him on double secret probation.
01/23/2015 at 12:36 PM #70987packplantpathParticipantI was impressed with Cat’s response (or lack thereof) and much less impressed with security at Miami.
Yea, in some arenas talking trash about officiating will get you kicked out, in others you can assault players.
01/23/2015 at 12:37 PM #70988ryebreadParticipantPros from last night:
– Cat’s withstraint. That was a mature response given the moment, adrenaline, etc..
– Abu’s offensive awakening.
– Some of the drive and “throw it up” plays for Abu/BJ.
– Washington stepping up when we definitely needed help.
– Effectiveness of the press.Bad from last night:
– End of game management
– Blowing the lead
– Not pressing early enough
– Horrific shooting
– FT disparity and all the factors that lead to it (officiating, offensive and defensive strategy, etc.)Overall:
– To be the type of program we as fans want, that’s a game you have to win.
– To get to the tournament this year, we have to beat Miami, Syracuse and Pitt. That’s who we’re fighting for a bid. Right now we’re 1-1. We have only 1 good win (Duke).
– Anti-chicken little talking points: Vegas had Miami as a 5 point favorite and they won by 5. Larranaga is a good coach and they were at home. ACC road wins are tough.
– I said prior to the Duke win, and after the Duke win, that I think we know what we’ve got in Gott. I didn’t expect to win last night and we didn’t. I didn’t expect us to beat UNC at home coming off of Duke, and we didn’t. That doesn’t mean that I think Gott should be fired. I just think the picture is pretty clear with him this far into year 4. He’s a better version of HWSNBN, but is that what we really want out of our program?
– Some of this is hard to stomach when I see Wichita State, VCU and Dayton ranked. I also think at least 2 of them would beat us head to head.
– I’m not convinced that NC State is willing to break the eggs needed to be a winner in basketball. This doesn’t mean cheating, but this means the PR risk that comes with making a bold move.01/23/2015 at 1:03 PM #70990wufpup76KeymasterI’m ok with this loss except that I know we could have won if we had mentally stayed in the game for 40 minutes. Regarding the fan who pushed Cat, where is King Karl when you need him. He could have ejected him retro actively or failing that put him on double secret probation.
^Hess would’ve ejected Barber.
01/23/2015 at 5:14 PM #71000Whiteshoes67ParticipantShot selection, throughout the second half, and especially at the end of the game. And some of these were definitely set plays. The offense was abysmal in the second half, and many of those weren’t good looks that just didn’t fall. Add that to my list of complaints.
Given Gottfried has teams that generally rank very high in offensive efficiency, and are noted for getting good looks, it’s baffling how frequently his teams (not just this squad) exercise poor judgment and have poor shot selection, something that’s occasionally more glaring in close contests, or in the final minutes of close games.
Pair that with poor defense, so-so free throw shooting, unforced turnovers, this suggests to me a general lack of discipline. That’s my core complaint. I think excellent coaches demand it and pay attention to the details. But I commend the players for fighting and competing. Hats off.
01/23/2015 at 7:16 PM #71002Tau837ParticipantOn that note, maybe the staff liked what they saw in the press – I certainly did. It seemed to really energize the guys late. Probably don’t want to try it all the time or against everyone – but I thought it was effective in changing the game flow.
I realize this isn’t normally part of Gott’s approach, but I have been disappointed in our lack of use of the press this season. We have a team that should be extremely well suited to doing it, even doing it extensively. We could sub in 5 for 5 if needed, and each of those teams would have long, quick, athletic guys up front in the press and solid bigs at the back to protect the rim. For example:
Cat, Cody, Turner, Abu, Washington
Lacey, Des, Caleb, Freeman, AnyaI’m not a big Shaka Smart fan, but can you imagine how effective this team’s press would be under him?
01/25/2015 at 12:58 PM #71087ancsu87ParticipantI am sorry there is just no way anyone can explain a team only taking 4 foul shots in a college game unless you look at the name Kersey in the ref box and know that Hess just got banned for life.
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