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11/21/2016 at 7:29 PM #110803BJD95Keymaster
I’m beyond surprised and quite impressed by this effort.
11/21/2016 at 7:45 PM #110804GowolvesParticipantWe haven’t had a team shoot the three like this since like never.
11/21/2016 at 7:48 PM #110805BJD95KeymasterWe are too tired to rebound, though.
11/21/2016 at 7:48 PM #110806bill.onthebeachParticipantCrunch time…. up 6 with 3 to play…
Abu still on the bench.
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!11/21/2016 at 7:50 PM #110807WufpackerParticipantWe’ll hang on I think.
2 of 3, shorthanded, I can accept that.
Now build on it.And Gott, once again, shave that horrid looking thing off your face.
11/21/2016 at 7:50 PM #110808bill.onthebeachParticipantCrunch time…
Up 6 with the ball with 2 to go…
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!11/21/2016 at 7:52 PM #110809bill.onthebeachParticipantCrunch time…
Up 10 with 1 minute to go…
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!11/21/2016 at 7:54 PM #110810Heelh8rParticipantWE’RE #3!!
11/21/2016 at 7:54 PM #110811bill.onthebeachParticipantSmoke if you GOTT ’em…
Game Over!
Wolf PACK WINS!!
Any body who complains ’bout this game is an idiot.
Read the Box Score… start with Minutes played and 3ptFGM%…
what that don’t show is called “Match Up Zone”.
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!11/21/2016 at 7:57 PM #110812WufpackerParticipantNice bounceback tonight.
Did what needed to be done.
No complaints tonight.11/21/2016 at 7:57 PM #110813GowolvesParticipantThis was almost exactly how I wanted this tournament to play out. Would have loved to win all three but I knew it would be tough. Still a few things to improve on but it will get better.
11/21/2016 at 7:57 PM #110814BJD95KeymasterThat was a GREAT win. As good as any OOC that MG has ever had, really.
11/21/2016 at 8:09 PM #110815MrPlywoodParticipantFound a stream then like clockwork buddies show up to help move my boat. Pack triumphs and boat moved – win-win for today. DSJ’s line (overlooking the FG%) looks great, 24pts, 8ast and 2to. And 9/10 FTs.
11/21/2016 at 8:26 PM #110816Heelh8rParticipantNow we pull for Creighton and hope they are as good as they look. Hope for St. Joe to have a good year too. We need all the OOC strength of schedule help we can get.
11/21/2016 at 8:27 PM #110817TheCOWDOGModeratorMatch up zone?
I have not watched as basketball season doesn’t start in November anymore than baseball starts in February. I do read you guys, though.
Match up zone, huh. Y’all don’t mind till I see it for myself, do ya?
11/21/2016 at 9:00 PM #110818GowolvesParticipantRebels more than holding their own.
11/21/2016 at 9:10 PM #110819bill.onthebeachParticipantMatch up zone, huh. Y’all don’t mind till I see it for myself, do ya?
Well who among us really knows… except to say that’s what Johnny & Tony are calling it.
Now… if it passes the Coach Moore test… then it’s the real deal.
We’ll just wait for your report… cuz….#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!11/21/2016 at 9:18 PM #110820BJD95KeymasterApparently the South IS gonna do it again? Took ya long enough, Johnny Reb…
11/21/2016 at 9:29 PM #110821TheCOWDOGModeratorMatch up zone, huh. Y’all don’t mind till I see it for myself, do ya?
Well who among us really knows… except to say that’s what Johnny & Tony are calling it.
Now… if it passes the Coach Moore test… then it’s the real deal.
We’ll just wait for your report… cuz….Yep. That coach Moore.
11/21/2016 at 9:46 PM #110822TheCOWDOGModerator…Or Jack Kraft, Al McGuire, Rick Pitino’s kids.
11/21/2016 at 10:15 PM #110823bill.onthebeachParticipantbill.onthebeach wrote:
TheCOWDOG wrote:
Match up zone, huh. Y’all don’t mind till I see it for myself, do ya?
Well who among us really knows… except to say that’s what Johnny & Tony are calling it.Now… if it passes the Coach Moore test… then it’s the real deal.
We’ll just wait for your report… cuz….Yep. That coach Moore.
Now… it’s doubtful what you’ll see is in it’s original form….
After all, it’s almost 50 years since Coach Moore developed the original “Match Up Zone”
and stuff does evolve.The question is … is it the Defense or the vocabulary?
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!11/21/2016 at 10:57 PM #110824TheCOWDOGModeratorVocabulary.
11/21/2016 at 11:13 PM #110826ryebreadParticipantWe were gassed, but looked better, played smarter and played much better defense than against Creighton. This is a glimpse of what we can be.
DSJ is getting it going. Dorn is the most efficient perimeter player we’ve had in a long time. We have depth. We can play up tempo or slow it down. The pieces are there.
11/21/2016 at 11:31 PM #110828AdventurooParticipantDinner with DW of 51 years (today) overrode NCSU BB. Great meal….even if it was at a restaurant affiliated with an Ex BOT Chief at UNC. We both like it and wore NCSU attire.
Listened to the first half and the halftime on the way there.
My biggest gripe is what GOTT keeps talking about.
Offense running “HIS” system, but also making shots AFTER we do a ton of passing. Lights out shooting is great….IF you can do it consistently. Seems like the rarefied air of the Virgin Islands helped our ability to make shots….but the UCLA High Post offense is supposed to be the where all to end all….when the guys improvise and take street baller (brawler?) shots and they don’t fall….it is THEIR fault…when they fall and we win, it is the SYSTEM’s superiority.
Defense gets more jawboning that “why HRC lost the election”. We had NO legs in last Q3 and all of Q4 last night. Sounds like we hit pay dirt tonight….something like a 26 – 3 run. OK, did you listen to the PREGAME. There are only 3 or 4 of the St. Joe team that returned. The rest graduated or got mad and left or whatever. It was a YOUNG team. We beat a YOUNG team. We were NOT as dominant against Creighton….
NOW, I also heard…”we are beginning to learn HOW to play the Zone Match-up”. SO, we got some experience tonight. BUT, if all our super scorers can’t do diddle on Man to Man, then god help us when we play an experienced team. The ZD works as long at there is not a Zone Buster (Herbie, tell about JJ and how he took away our ACC Championship and you had NO Junk Defense to use?). It is hard to judge a team based on the “Gabriel Heatter” broadcasting of the Home Town crew. IT SOUNDED like we made some subtle changes. The fact that we ARE changing defenses and learning is somewhat heartening.
NOW, NOT having listened to H2, I shall only comment on what the Box Score says.
> Absolutely, Positively NO BENCH Scoring. Creighton killed us with their bench (they also let up when they had us under control….Mikey and ORW will NOT….they will punish you).
>BJ, The Incredible Mean Eating Machine, played LESS time. He had 2 Rebounds; 3 PF; 3 Points; 2 Blocks in 16 minutes. BUT, he fouled out last night in 17 minutes….so I guess this is progress. “There’s Good News Tonight….”
Johnson seemed like the one man wrecking crew off the bench. He got 4 fouls, so either he was targeted or else he was aggressive….or BOTH.
>Maverick and Kapita did NOT play. We MIGHT have taken down Creighton if we had had them….but we will never know.
Early in the season and I enjoy our successes, but have a nagging sensation that the Mediocre albatross has NOT been properly buried….so we shall see.
11/22/2016 at 8:16 AM #110832TexpackParticipantFirst of all congrats to Roo and spouse on 51 years. Nowadays that’s rarer than Anya and Abu making 15 in a row from the line.
I watched the replay this morning. I agree with Chop on the zone giving up way too many second shots.
I will still reserve judgement until we have all of our horses at the same time. The inside game we have now is very inadequate.
Henderson and Mav shooting the three, with some occasional help from Dorn, Smith, and Johnson gives us an offense that can put up enough points to win every night.
Johnson and Smith have to learn not to reach. Both looked better on defense last night, but neither is great against the dribble drive. Really makes you appreciate Cat.
Smith looked better. He is better with MJ in the game.
Can we rebound well enough to compete with the top teams? One of the wings has to commit to being a weak side rebounder. That guy will see the most time on the floor.
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