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01/15/2016 at 7:56 PM #97099WulfpackParticipant
Tyus Jones did not carry Duke.
01/15/2016 at 8:00 PM #97100WulfpackParticipantJones was certainly a key cog in the wheel, but Winslowe, Okafor, and Allen won it. Cook provided the leadership.
01/15/2016 at 8:05 PM #97101WufpackerParticipantTrue enough. But, this whole discussion started regarding a frosh PG “carrying” a team. In most cases, regardless of class, a PG doesn’t so much carry a team as facilitate it.
So the question becomes….is DSjr good enough to step in as a frosh, with the pieces we’ll have available next year, and “facilitate” to a point where the program can take two steps forward next year (over and above what appears to be a step back this year…so far at least).
But of course that brings up the discussion of the pieces he has around him and whether they can do their part.
Which invariably brings us back to airballed 2 footers.
But I digress….sort of.
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01/15/2016 at 8:08 PM #97103TheCOWDOGModeratorPhil Ford
Brad Davis
Tyus Edney
James LoftonDon’t make me fu#%in’ do this…
I got 10 more…
01/15/2016 at 8:18 PM #97106WulfpackParticipantThe point still stands is that it is RARE. As in, you can’t bank on it. Bank on it and kiss your job goodbye. Hope to get lucky.
01/15/2016 at 8:21 PM #97108WulfpackParticipantAnd yes, facilitate is the more appropriate word. But in order to facilitate, as Wuf aptly states, you need the necessary pieces around you. That’s definitely still a big question mark.
01/15/2016 at 8:22 PM #97109WufpackerParticipantQuestionmark indeed.
I hope the Juco market is a strong one in the offseason.Dennis Smith Jr will still be a first rounder either way.
01/15/2016 at 8:31 PM #97112tjfoose1ParticipantIf you were a college basketball fan and went to State in the early 90’s, how does Kenny Anderson escape your memory?
01/15/2016 at 8:38 PM #97113WufpackerParticipantLethal Weapon 3.
Thanks ‘foose, for making me feel older than I already did.01/15/2016 at 8:41 PM #97114tjfoose1ParticipantFreshman PG Kenny Anderson + Dennis Scott + Brian Oliver. All the way to the Final 4.
01/15/2016 at 8:44 PM #97115WufpackerParticipantYup…dat be the 3 in Lethal Weapon 3.
01/15/2016 at 8:45 PM #97116tjfoose1ParticipantLethal Weapon 3.
Thanks ‘foose, for making me feel older than I already did.But at least you’re still young enough to have a functioning memory. Half full.
01/15/2016 at 9:47 PM #97122WufpackerParticipantLethal Weapon 3.
Thanks ‘foose, for making me feel older than I already did.But at least you’re still young enough to have a functioning memory. Half full.
Functioning is a relative term.
But my plumbing is still good, not relative at all if the ladies be listening.But yeah….the MEMORY works.
01/15/2016 at 11:33 PM #97124Tau837ParticipantLet’s dispense with “carry” and just talk about freshman PGs who played at a high level (e.g., all conference/All American level). Here are some, in no particular order:
Kenny Anderson
Stephon Marbury
Kyrie Irving*
Austin Rivers
Tyus Jones
Bobby Hurley
Steve Blake
Kendall Marshall
Chris Paul
Allen Iverson
Marcus Smart
D’Angelo Russell
Trey Burke
Jalen Rose
Mike Bibby
Baron Davis
Jason Kidd
Tyus Edney
Isaiah Thomas
Mike Conley
Derrick Rose
Tyreke Evans
Corey Joseph
John Wall
Brandon Knight
Sure, it’s rare, but it happens. I’m sure this is not an exhaustive list.01/16/2016 at 12:05 PM #97136TheAliasTrollParticipantadd Trevor Ferguson to that list, good sir!
01/16/2016 at 2:02 PM #97249WolfWiz11ParticipantTyler Ennis? Can’t remember if he was an all American.
01/17/2016 at 11:40 AM #97351packbackr04ParticipantI seriously doubt DSJ will be better than Cat is this year. And he will have the same pieces to work with so if you’re hoping for a big turnaround next year. Keep that in mind
01/18/2016 at 11:41 PM #97439Tau837ParticipantI expect DSJ to be worse defensively than Cat and to have more turnovers. However, I expect he will be better offensively, because he will likely be more willing to attack the defense and better at finishing at the rim. He will likely shoot better from the field, though perhaps not from the free throw line.
If all of this is true, take that and add to Dorn and Henderson, and the team should be quite a bit better next season, barring multiple early departures.
01/19/2016 at 8:30 AM #97442packbackr04ParticipantCat is averaging 21.8 points a game…. if DSJ is averaging 21 points a game at this point next season i will owe you one HUGE apology.
01/19/2016 at 12:59 PM #97451waltonParticipantIf we could get Taurean Thompson, he could be the difference maker. 6’9′, 220 lb, ball handler, outside shooter, inside playmaker with soft touch. Check him out.
01/19/2016 at 1:01 PM #97452waltonParticipantWho wants to bet Shaun Kirk transfers after this year. Here we are 7 deep and losing every ACC game so far. And still Gott refuses to play him, even a little. Repeating pattern.
01/19/2016 at 1:03 PM #97453wolfpack92owenParticipantWho wants to bet Shaun Kirk transfers after this year. Here we are 7 deep and losing every ACC game so far. And still Gott refuses to play him, even a little. Repeating pattern.
Why in holy hell would he stay? If he is not getting minutes now during this debacle when exactly will he get time?
When he does I will not blame him one bit.
01/19/2016 at 2:04 PM #97458VaWolf82KeymasterIf he is not getting minutes now during this debacle when exactly will he get time?
Here’s a better way to look at it: If he can’t get time on this team, exactly what Power-5 team could he go to and get more playing time?
01/19/2016 at 2:13 PM #97460JasonPParticipantThings are getting silly around here. Is it the planetary alignment that brings out the nervous nellies?
01/19/2016 at 3:00 PM #97465wolfpack92owenParticipantIf he is not getting minutes now during this debacle when exactly will he get time?
Here’s a better way to look at it: If he can’t get time on this team, exactly what Power-5 team could he go to and get more playing time?
He wouldnt go to a p-5 school IMO. Something like Marshall, ECU or VCU.
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