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10/31/2015 at 10:45 PM #91259Fastback68Participant
Flag. Way to go refs
10/31/2015 at 10:50 PM #91260Fastback68ParticipantStill waiting
10/31/2015 at 10:51 PM #91261Fastback68ParticipantMiami wins
10/31/2015 at 10:52 PM #91262Fastback68ParticipantDuke s—
10/31/2015 at 10:57 PM #91263WulfpackParticipantIncredible finish. Never seen anything like it.
10/31/2015 at 10:59 PM #91264WulfpackParticipantOf course, that puts you know who in first place. Blech.
10/31/2015 at 11:02 PM #91265tjfoose1ParticipantBut is a block in the back reviewable? Ummmm, I don’t think so. Im pretty sure those ACC officials just did something they don’t have the authority to do.
10/31/2015 at 11:10 PM #91266MrPlywoodParticipantTemple giving the domers a game.
10/31/2015 at 11:12 PM #91267mak4dpakParticipantWhile losses are never a good thing, the team definitely show some fight for 4 quarters, and gave the #3 team in land a Halloween scare. The offense did their part, but the defense let some big pass plays doom our upset bid. But definitely a great chance to finish strong for the rest of the season, if we pick up where we left off today. And this same team beat Miami 58-0 last week, who beats Duke. Coastal division clearly very weak. Too bad we didn’t play like this against the ville, and vt. Lets see who show next week vs. BC.
10/31/2015 at 11:22 PM #91268mak4dpakParticipantForgot to mention the previous high scored against the tiggers, was 24, and we get 41, which could have easily been 51, with the missed FG, and failed TD, in the 4th.
10/31/2015 at 11:27 PM #91269MrPlywoodParticipantI would have loved to have gone into the half with the lead. That sequence from 3rd down, ugly FG attempt then Clempson’s score was hard to watch.
10/31/2015 at 11:55 PM #91270MikeParticipantDD said Dayes had a toe injury, hopefully not serious. JB still locking on receivers and not checking other options. Dont want to complain about zebras but once again we get hosed. Several holdings not called when we are on D, and several muggings/holding on our receivers with no flags. In 3rd Q, DD was hot and screaming at one official who was watching the mugging and no call. I wish DD would go ballistic, get a penalty, get suspended or fined, but speak out and say we are not taking this any more.
10/31/2015 at 11:57 PM #91271MikeParticipantAlso, I am so confused. So the refs can review a penalty for block in the back and pick up the flag. But they cant review the blatant block in the back not called on the Miami 15 or the Miami 25? I guess since the flag was not thrown they cannot review the missed penalty, but since a flag was thrown on the Duke 25 they can review?
11/01/2015 at 12:29 AM #91272mak4dpakParticipantAgree with you MIKE, one sided officiating, to help out the tigers.
11/01/2015 at 12:30 AM #91273tjfoose1ParticipantJust another day in Swofford’s ACC. The Duke v Miami officiating crew should be suspended, but Swofty will give them a good ol boy pat on the back and a nice bonus.
11/01/2015 at 6:50 AM #91274WulfpackParticipantCutcliffe is none too pleased with the way it all went down last night. It was not explained to him. Evidently, they reviewed whether the Miami player’s knee was down, whether they were all backwards laterals, and the block in the block.
11/01/2015 at 6:52 AM #91275WulfpackParticipant“There were all kinds of issues that need to be addressed by the conference. It’s not my job,” he said. “… You may have questions pop into your mind. Call the ACC. They should have answers. I had no answers for our guys in the locker room that had spilled their guts on the field.”
11/01/2015 at 7:13 AM #91277WulfpackParticipantBig picture – we have 5 wins with four to play, but only 1 win in conference. Remaining games against BC, FSU, Cuse and a much improved UNC.
The way I see it, 2-2 is the most likely outcome of this season ending stretch, which gives us 7 wins and 3 in conference. BC and Cuse are must wins. Lose either of those and this will turn to a disappointing season.
11/01/2015 at 7:57 AM #91280BJD95KeymasterIt’s very simple, and Cutcliffe should f-ing come out and say it. The boss that these refs answer to is an UNABASHED HOMER for his archrival school. Res ipsa loquitor.
Dare Swoffy to come with the fines. And our administration and coaches better back his ass up 100%. This is a golden opportunity to leverage that POS out the door.
11/01/2015 at 9:11 AM #91290AdventurooParticipantOK….I, too, watched the D-M game. Couple of observations….some partially made last night.
The officiating crew was the most flag happy that I have seen….
Miami got flagged 23 (not a TYPO) times….for a total of 194 Yards
Duke got flagged 5 times….for a total of 41 yards.The last Duke drive (where they scored and took the lead) had at least 3 flags….and it looked like the ref’s were bound and determined that Duke WIN.
To say it was an evenly and professionally called game would be a farce……SO….
I do NOT pretend to be a “rule book junkie”. What I thought happened….was that the laterals and “handoff’s” were reviewed, to determine if the runner was “Downed”. Not having the benefit of the video….who knows.
As to the “Flag” that, I think, was for an illegal block, I, too, did not know if a call could be reviewed. Now, the booth can make the call on Targetting……that happened in our game.
BUT, I thought it was a “FIELD CALL” on whether the infraction occurred. SO, if one official flagged it, but after a conference of the officials, the Referee determines that what he saw compared to what OTHERS saw was in error, then the Flag is picked up. We have seen several times where a Ref will say…”There is NO flag on the play”. I ASSUMED that this is what happened….
BUT, again, I was not privvy to the analysis or the decisions.
I will point out, as many of you are aware, that there is a Multi-Million $$ “War Room” in the ACC HQ in G’boro. It is a state of the art video center and every minute movement that the “Booth” officiating crew sees and THEIR audio is being monitored with more intensity that Hillary’s folks do Donald Trump’s BM’s.
SO, ODDS ARE…..Every pixel was reviewed in G’Boro. Now, whether Swoff is whispering into Clougherty’s ear….only HE and SWOFF know. BTW, Mr. C IS RETIRING this year….so this is is LAST FB season.
I totally agree that Cutt should use every administrative avenue open to him to get an GOOD answer.
BUT, unless you have the Audio from Swoff to Clougherty to the Booth to the Ref where he says….IT IS A LEGAL PLAY….pull your flag and score the TD, then the rest is pure speculation.
If you watched the last Duke Drive….they would NOT have scored had it NOT been for the Ref’s….so it appears to me to be a really ugly game, from an officiating standpoint….and Duke CERTAINLY got the advantage of the calls. CUTT has to be careful when he calls out the Zeb’s….as the numbers and bias that he asserts are NOT in his favor.
I really THOUGHT that the penalties were more even….but the Box Score on Go-Duke indicates otherwise.
OK….after I wrote this, I found this article…..it explains a LOT….from someone that should know….
We shall see…..we shall see….
11/01/2015 at 10:51 AM #91297Fastback68ParticipantLast 2 trips to C-F, 56-41. My ju-ju is all bad.
11/01/2015 at 11:25 AM #91298mak4dpakParticipantDid forget to mention with 11+ minutes left in the game, absolutely disagree with the onside kick, then turn around and do it again a few plays later. I say bury them deep, stop them, and we have a shorter field. And if we had done a better job with fumble recoveries, like when we knocked the ball from Watson, then they would have not scored a TD, on the next play. But again overall proud of the effort, and making the tiggers play 4 quarters to win. A 9-3 finish would be awesome.
11/01/2015 at 11:30 AM #91299BJD95KeymasterDoeren played leverage ABSOLUTELY correctly. Our D was gassed, kicking deep and playing conventional was suicide. Not to mention that each kick was a hair from WORKING.
When you are outgunned, you should scheme like it. And we did.
11/01/2015 at 11:50 AM #91300tjfoose1ParticipantBUT, I thought it was a “FIELD CALL” on whether the infraction occurred. SO, if one official flagged it, but after a conference of the officials, the Referee determines that what he saw compared to what OTHERS saw was in error, then the Flag is picked up.
Except the officials didn’t confer, and they announced the flag was picked up because the REVIEW determined in was a block from the side.
11/01/2015 at 11:54 AM #91301tjfoose1ParticipantI was pleading for either an onside kick or pooch kick to the gap on both kicks before they were executed. For the reasons beej gave.
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