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11/16/2014 at 4:46 PM #61621AdventurooParticipant
Fat Cats Rearranging Deck Chairs…..read all about it…..
http://www.bobleesays.com/Blogs/BobLee-Says/November-2014/Fat-Cats-Rearranging-Deck-Chairs.aspx
If you do NOT want to read the entire BobLeeSays Column, then here is the key excerpt. Remember that Bobby is a UNC grad who was a manager for the BB team…..so he DOES have his sources….just calls the shots like he sees them.
“Amid this Historic Tumult in which this University community is dog-paddling to stay afloat, these privileged powerbrokers are insisting that Bubba Cunningham and Larry Fedora reorder their current priorities. Bubba and Larry are, they contend, “inflicting irreparable damage to the brand of Tar Heel Football” by tinkering with Kenan fashion tradition”
The “Fat Cats” of the Rams Club sent an email to AD Cunningham and copied the “I GOT Larry and ORW’s Cell Number crowd”….including the infamous BOTBob who was one of the triumphant triumvirate that hired Butchie and ultimately brought Tweetin’ Marvin to the campus…
Talk about D-E-N-I-A-L and wanting to be “Relevant” again….reminds me of the occupant of 1600 PA Avenue and his antics after Nov 4.
You gotta love it….Will they NOW purchase ORW a Daisy Red (er, Light BLUE) Ryder so that he can plink the NON-UNC fans sitting is the “Prime” spots.
11/17/2014 at 7:27 AM #61656StateFansKeymasterI do admit it is hard for me to follow BobLee’s writing as I get older. Nonetheless, interesting stuff and thanks so much for sharing!
11/17/2014 at 8:16 AM #61658StateFansKeymasterMight as well keep this flowing in this entry. It looks like UNC’s General Counsel is leaving. You can best believe anyone that is hired here will be as big of a puppet and Tar heel apologizer as Tom Ross and Carol Folt have proven to be. Link to DTH article.
After staying on to help the University handle the aftermath of the Wainstein report, UNC’s longtime General Counsel Leslie Strohm will leave her post in January.
Strohm, who will take on a similar position at the University of Louisville, has run UNC’s general counsel office for more than 11 years.
“When U of L signaled that it was ready to extend an offer, I respectfully requested that it wait until the Wainstein report was released,” Strohm said in an email. “I wanted to be here to support Chancellor Folt through the end of the Wainstein review process.”
But those who have been on the other side of a University lawsuit say her office is reluctant to make policy changes.
Mary Willingham, the former athletic learning specialist suing the University for creating a hostile working environment, said Strohm’s office fails students by not protecting their academic integrity.
“It’s pretty clear now that the general counsel was a part of the cover-up (of the athletic scandal),” Willingham said, saying Strohm’s office first investigated UNC’s athletic-academic scandal, but did not unearth the biggest pieces of information that were brought forward in the Wainstein report.
“I voiced my concern (in 2013) that we still weren’t getting to the truth with our academics and athletics. They should have uncovered the truth. The truth is in the transcripts — it’s that simple.”
Andrea Pino, who filed a federal complaint against the University for its handling of her sexual assault case with four others in 2013, said Strohm’s office initially resisted changing the University’s sexual assault policy.
“We knew that when it would get to Leslie’s office it wouldn’t move from there,” Pino said. “Until the complaint was filed, there was never any talk of policy changes — it was set in stone.”
Pino said Strohm’s office viewed her complaint as an attack on the University, not a way to better the campus.
11/17/2014 at 10:18 AM #61663Wolfpackjack76ParticipantAnd here’s more dirt swept under the rug by unc/Wanstein:
It seems that our “Ms Super Ethics” Jan Boxill was a bigger player than Wanstein would have us believe. Not only was she a steerer, she was also a steeree. In addition to sending students to AFAM, she taught over 160 philosophy courses in 8 years that were…you guessed it…”independent studies”. “Public records show Boxill would sometimes offer multiple students independent study courses each semester; for example, in spring 2005 she taught 20. UNC’s Public Records Office would not distinguish how many students enrolled in Boxill’s independent studies were student-athletes.” Spring 2005…imagine that! What a coincidence!
The articles included many explicitly incriminating emails, etc. Deadspin concluded with:
“But it’s notable that investigators never probed the content of Boxill’s courses, and that the Wainstein report never even mentioned that athletes were steered to her classes when they needed high grades. The report itself portrayed an AFAM department gone rogue, operating outside the awareness of UNC’s top administrators, the scandal confined to a few maverick faculty members. But the actual documents suggest that the problems were more widespread. Those documents, for whatever reason, weren’t deemed fit to go into the report.”
I was wondering why we haven’t heard much about this and it occurred to me that 160 is a pretty insignificant number when compared with 3100. I guess we’ll never hear of the Comm, ROTC, cars, houses, tickets etc etc.
11/17/2014 at 10:20 AM #61664Wolfpackjack76Participant11/17/2014 at 11:21 AM #6166944rulesParticipantBob Lee would be easier to follow if he could write in English and string thoughts together. Of course, the worst writers I ever had to train in my entire life were graduates of the UNC and UGA schools of journalism. The one from UNC never learned to write, ever.
Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy. Mao Zedong
11/17/2014 at 11:26 AM #6167044rulesParticipantA beauty from the DTH: A master lecturer in the philosophy department, she (Boxill) taught a long-standing class on sports ethics and brought in regular guest speakers like men’s basketball coach Dean Smith.
Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy. Mao Zedong
11/17/2014 at 12:11 PM #61671TexpackParticipantFirst of all if you had two head coaches in your revenue sports that were of the moral fiber of the one’s at UL, the first place you’d go for legal help would be UNC-CH.
The whole “Ethics Professor Runs Academic Cheating Program” is just too good. You couldn’t make stuff up any better than that.
My only question is when will the press start to call out the cheaters for the 2-3 year cover-up they have conducted? Every time they say “it’s just X”, Y and Z show up in the dirty laundry basket.
11/17/2014 at 11:17 PM #61776WolfsTavernParticipantWhat a confused joke this Racist, Sexist, Cheating “liberal” University is. So clear they put athletics over education at the expense of the uneducated. So clear they would protect “The Carolina Way” over protecting the rights of their young female students. How could any employee of this “University” sleep at night? AND this is a “liberal” university? I’m not a liberal but I’m more liberal than the individuals running this cheating dinosaur. The whole athletic program should be suspended and all banners during the “cheating years” cut down.
Wolf Blood, Pack Bred
11/18/2014 at 11:14 AM #61806BJD95KeymasterIt’s classic bait and switch stuff.
Scream from the mountaintops that you’re a paragon of virtue, when in fact you are running the biggest fraud in modern college sports history.
Scream even louder how liberal and enlightened you are, when in fact you are operating as complete sexist, racist hypocrites. At least the Klan is upfront about their motivations.
Takes some chutzpah, fo sho.
11/20/2014 at 9:47 AM #61922StateFansKeymasterANOTHER one bites the dust:
Dean of College of Arts and Sciences at UNC will step down: Karen Gil, the dean of the College of Arts and Sci… http://t.co/C8CFXvAmeV
— RaleighNews (@RaleighNews) November 20, 2014
11/20/2014 at 10:13 AM #61932VaWolf82KeymasterKudos to BobLee for pointing out that:
North Carolina will pay PR firm $1.65 million for help with academic fraud scandal
A UNC spokersperson told Kane that the public relation will not be covered by state funds or tuition dollars.
I’m so sure.
11/20/2014 at 10:30 AM #61938WolfanaticParticipantYesterday, the NCAA put Weber State on probation for three years, reduced scholarships for the football program, and imposed at least $5000.00 in fines after it found out that a math instructor improperly helped football players with course work, quizzes and tests.
It seems that Weber State’s academic crimes pale in comparison to those committed at UNC. Sadly, I imagine that their penalty probably will too.
11/20/2014 at 11:06 AM #61942WolfanaticParticipantEdit: meaning UNC’s potential penalty will pale in comparison to Weber’s
11/20/2014 at 12:29 PM #61949D WolfParticipantWhat a confused joke this Racist, Sexist, Cheating “liberal” University is. So clear they put athletics over education at the expense of the uneducated. So clear they would protect “The Carolina Way” over protecting the rights of their young female students. How could any employee of this “University” sleep at night? AND this is a “liberal” university? I’m not a liberal but I’m more liberal than the individuals running this cheating dinosaur. The whole athletic program should be suspended and all banners during the “cheating years” cut down.
This is only confusing if you make the mistake of equating conservatism with racism/sexism and liberalism with the absence thereof. This mischaracterization is purely a liberal construct designed to demonize their opponents. You don’t have to look far to see inherent racism in liberal policies.
11/20/2014 at 2:48 PM #61954PackofMacParticipantI’m sure everyone on here is more educated than me so someone please explain how/why AD’s from the Weber State’s of the world aren’t all foaming at the mouth, protesting outside the NCAA’s headquarters over the lack of anything done to the flagship??? Institution after institution has been investigated and sanctioned, student athlete after student athlete has been investigated and sanctioned so how in the world does UNSux get away with murder???? I understand the “machine” and the hex they have over the NCAA, what I do not understand is why in the world every athletic director in America not beating down the doors of the NCAA over their lack of concern for one college in America. Every major university should refuse to put any team on any field or court UNTIL the NCAA does atleast half their job. Of course that’s extreme but extreme doesn’t begin to personify what’s and what has been going on in Chapel Hill.
11/21/2014 at 4:18 PM #62109StateFansKeymasterHmmm…are academics starting to get in the way of some of their players? FINALLY?
UNC wide receiver & punt returner T.J. Thorpe to transfer at end of the football season: http://t.co/30u2qfwjvY
— InsideCarolina (@InsideCarolina) November 21, 2014
11/21/2014 at 4:22 PM #62110StateFansKeymasterMy last game against Duke was one to remember thanks boys!! But this fresh start is much needed. #Induetime #cantwait
— TJ Thorpe (@ThorpeTJ) November 21, 2014
11/21/2014 at 4:40 PM #62112tractor57ParticipantI hate that the dark blues didn’t grind the light blues into the turf. Hint to coach D and the FB team … (as if they aren’t on that page)
11/22/2014 at 10:07 AM #62123RaisedByWolvesParticipant11/22/2014 at 10:08 AM #62124RaisedByWolvesParticipantHmm. Link didn’t show up. What do I have to do to post a link?
11/22/2014 at 10:35 AM #62126pakfanistanParticipantThis is only confusing if you make the mistake of equating conservatism with racism/sexism and liberalism with the absence thereof. This mischaracterization is purely a liberal construct designed to demonize their opponents. You don’t have to look far to see inherent racism in liberal policies.
Southern strategy.
11/22/2014 at 11:02 AM #62128BJD95KeymasterThis is only confusing if you make the mistake of equating conservatism with racism/sexism and liberalism with the absence thereof. This mischaracterization is purely a liberal construct designed to demonize their opponents. You don’t have to look far to see inherent racism in liberal policies.
Southern strategy.
Especially with Lee Atwater (who nobody can seriously claim to be a “rogue”) on tape explaining it.
That said, some grey area exists. There are elements of paternalism in SOME liberals, that do likely constitute underlying liberalism. I think that’s part of the case for the Holes being racist. I would argue that is more prevalent in “movement conservatism” – but it’s dead wrong from the left or the right.
And there are plenty of good, non-racist/sexist people all along the political spectrum. Hopefully those voices win out in the end.
11/22/2014 at 12:25 PM #62136bill.onthebeachParticipantWe might need to be careful to take the long view… rather than lock into the snapshot that represents one moment in time..
Liberal “paternalism” or “noblese oblige”… as it has evolved over a thousand years… represents the process of a culture or society working out the conflicts between it’s structure (that is “classes”, either defined or inherent ) and it’s conscience…
Like most ‘evolutionary processes’, it’s not a smooth line… but rather a syncopated dance of big and little steps – forwards and backwards… and not without an occasional paradigmatic shift. And there’s also that “does man make the times or do the times make the man” question at work, that consistently reminds of us of “who we are”.
It may be presumptive, but I’m hoping those who call themselves ‘liberal’ and those who call themselves ‘conservative’ and the rest of us… all still have a ‘conscience’.
That said, anybody read John Leutze’s new book “Entering North Carolina: Set Your Clocks Back 100 Years” yet?
My suggestion would be that it would be ‘required reading’ before any intelligent discussion of North Carolina politics regardless of one’s politics.
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!11/24/2014 at 12:10 PM #62339redisgoodParticipantAnd in another display of class from the UNC football team, they spray painted their locker room after the Duke game. Fedora has since apologized to Duke. What a bunch of Grade A assholes.
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