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Tractor, I live out in the sticks between two “rural” type cities/towns down south of Raleigh. Two years ago there were some meth heads doing their brew in the middle of the night out in the middle of the soybean field that is behind my house. The dogs went out in the fenced in yard for the final potty run of the night and heard ’em. Two calls and 3 minutes later there was a posse rounding them up for the constabulary. The deputies found 5 of us holding two of them sitting down with their “equipment” and we never fired a shot or touched either one.
Could I get help were someone to break in on me? Yes maybe, but I may not be able to call anyone in time, and for sure they wouldn’t get there in time. That’s what happened to the couple that were beaten. If someone breaks down my door now no matter where I am or my wife is in the house the minimum that would get fired in seconds is a 22 or 9mm with some really nasty bullets. If I’m in bed by the time they get to me they will get a 12 gauge, 5 shots as fast as I can pull the trigger. In my wildest dreams I never thought my life would come to the point where I felt I needed to be armed for my own protection BUT that day “arrove” 5 years ago, and I would not hesitate for even a half a second, by then it may be too late. Would it disturb me to take the life of another? Yes, definitely, BUT it’s not just my life I’m protecting.
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Yogi very valid points and why I say there are good ideas on both sides of the issue. The same could happen here as well. Different perspectives and I do support yours.
I’m not saying what I do for home protection but I do have plans. What I do not do is concealed carry for the reasons I stated. My 90 year old aunt does and I have not doubt she would use that if needed. I’m good there but I have not come to that conclusion for myself.Tractor,the sad thing is more and more are coming to that conclusion. It is a sad narrative for our country when 90 year old grandmas think they need to arm themselves for their own sake. Over half of our seniors group at church have gotten training and have their CCW permits. There is a shooting range across the road from my house and many of them practice there regularly. If someone had told me 40 years ago I’d see this in my lifetime I’d have told them they were nuts and yet here we are. By the same token 40 years ago an American President resigned because he lied about a bunch of his bungling buddies breaking into the office of his rival in the election. Mrs. Clinton was part of the committee that was responsible for his undoing. As Paul Harvey used to say “That’s the rest of the story”. I’m truly fearful for this time in our country’s future.
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I sympathize with you tractor. Been around long guns all my life and in my younger days was a pretty good wing shot. I’ve never pursued a CCP because I’m more afraid to carry than not.
Well at least we know what it takes to get some chatter going around here. Strange times we live in. We never had guns growing up; never shot, never hunted, etc. A few years ago, both my parents got CCW – my mom more at my dad’s behest. I worked at a shooting range for two years in high school. People always asked me how often I shot. The answer is never. It was only recently when we went to a friend’s house out beyond the boonies and his neighbor had an AK shotgun (I guess a Saiga) that I finally shot a gun (besides BB and pellet). I quite enjoyed it and am looking forward to my next chance. Makes me wonder why I passed up shooting all these years.
The difference for me Yogi is I’m not worried about the fabric of the country when someone decides to carry legally. She has her reasons and might be different from mine but she is in her right mind and knows what she is doing. Actually an amazing lady in many ways. She once asked me if I was bothered by her carrying – my answer was no as I trust you and your decisions. That goes far beyond worrying are the elderly ( which I will soon join) and to their choices. My point is there is no “litmus test” on these issues. I made my decision and she made hers. We are both fine with those decisions.
I’ve got Glocks, S&W’s, Rugers, but my honest to gosh favorite 380 is a Bersa Firestorm…I also have 22 cal on the same frame and practice with the cheaper 22 cal ammo. It’s an easy auto to take down/clean and fun to shoot. Less money that the Glocks and others and just as reliable.
Gardening was a total disaster this year…Too many days of 90 plus degree heat and very little rain. The only thing that has produced has been some peppers..
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Stick, I have a Bersa Thunder 380. Great little gun (double naught 7 knock off). As for 22 versions of something else I have an AR-15 5.56/.223 that also came with a 22LR bolt. Great for taking out crows in the pecan trees in the fall. I’ve considered the 22 version of the Bersa too, just never shot one.
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Getting back to the garden (trusty Ruger .357 5″ barrel revolver not withstanding):
We live in central NC and found this to be an off-year for tomatoes. My mom, who has a green thumb like nobody’s business, had a bad year with low production. I live about 30 miles north of her and had the same issue. Normally I have so many they drop off the vines and get wasted. This year, I hardly got a dozen.
Was there something in the air this year? Maybe the raised beds should be an option.
I had romas coming out of my ears but other varieties seemed to struggle also. Had quite a few plants that just died. I had chalked that up to not getting much natural water (rain) in both July and August (less than 3 inches in each month) and I had to water quite a bit which was easier in the beds. Some of my cukes growing in the same beds died too but my yield was high there until the lack of rain set in.
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Yep. My late peppers and remaining tomatoes got ambushed by a whole division.
I’m finally about to give in and lay the scratch down for the Desert Eagle if my moonshining uncle doesn’t gift it to me for my birthday as I expect. I want the .50 cal, and knowing me and my willingness to indulge myself recently, that’s probably what I’ll end up with even though I know the .44 is more prudent. .357? Puhlease.
Do I need either? No I do not. Between the shotguns (.12 and .20, both pump action with pistol grip) and the various pistols of my own and now my dead papa’s, home defense is pretty much covered and then some.
Do I want it? You bet your ass I do. Compensation for an undersized penis and sense of loss and rejection? No comment. 😉
M4 semi is also on the wish list, but not sure I can justify that one even to myself. Wait, the zombies will be coming (phrasing) right? Woooo…consider it justified.
Oh yeah, forgot. Got good ‘maters and okra this year. Woooo veggies.
Everything else seemed to kinda fall by the wayside. Luckily the farm around the corner did very well with corn and everything else this year so they fill the gaps nicely.Even pickled 10 pints of the okra. That’s some good sh-t right there.
Gonna try to get to the grapes on my racialist grandad’s place this year before the deer eat ’em all up. But I’ll probably forget again.
And just as an illustration of my views on guns and why I believe they aren’t for everyone (ie if one is afraid of them they shouldn’t be pressured into having one, like my mother….and even if you do want one you maybe still ought not to have one, or at some point it’s time to realize you’re not safe with them, like my moonshining uncle for example)…
My uncle has owned guns, lots of ’em, all his life. He’s now in the early stages of what I believe to be Alzheimer’s (family history….yes, I have that to look forward to…yay). Every time he comes here or I go there to visit, at least weekly, he wants to pull out his little Derringer he carries and tell me about it. Every damned time. Never remembers I’ve already seen it like hundreds of times by now. But that’s not the point.
The point is, this past weekend when he tried to show it to me, he said “I’ve got this right here just in case I ever….yada yada yada”. And then proceeded to take about five minutes to even figure out which pocket it was in. I told him…old man, you need to stop worrying about guns before someone beats you to death while you’re looking for it and you end up shooting yourself in the dick by accident anyway.
Guns….not for everyone.
I had romas coming out of my ears but other varieties seemed to struggle also. Had quite a few plants that just died. I had chalked that up to not getting much natural water (rain) in both July and August (less than 3 inches in each month) and I had to water quite a bit which was easier in the beds. Some of my cukes growing in the same beds died too but my yield was high there until the lack of rain set in.
Good info on the Romas…I stopped growing them and tried Cherokee Purples w/o much success the last two years…Maybe I need to go back to Romas…
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Wuf I cut down over half of my okra last week because I couldn’t keep up with it anymore. Even with that I’m getting a ton every time I walk out to my garden. Great for give away. I did grill some the other day, yummy. After seeing my aunt with Alzheimer’s I’ve come to the conclusion the hell that it is is probably worse on those who have to care for them than it is for them. But everyone who gets it is different. The difficulty is in not being able to get a true definition of what it’s like for those who have it. My mother is showing early signs of it and I’m not looking forward to that.
As for the Desert Eagle, hmmmm. Ain’t no way to conceal it, and if you open carry you could scare the crap out of a lot of people, me included, and I have my own on my hip, just not nearly as big. LOL. If’n you’re getting it just to shoot it, point of curiosity… Have you priced the ammo? That alone is why when I bought my AR-15 I got both the 5.56 and 22LR bolt. I can shoot a big gun with cheap ammo vs. that 5.56 stuff which is TRES expensive. 45 ammo is much more costly than 9mm and 22 but 50 cal is way up there. My cousin has a DE and he can go through 100 bucks of ammo just getting warmed up. WOOO!
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Fastback68, I have small farm of 52 acres with 8 head of angus. I buy my hay and am not planting crops but my Kubota MX4700 does everything I need it to do. I have the quick disconnect front end attachments so the bucket, hay spear and forks come on and off real easy. The forks are great for moving logs and burning brush. It will run a 6′ wide bush hog pretty well. The price with the bucket and hay spear was about $24K a couple of years ago. Since then I added the forks and the bush hog. I’m not the best mechanic so I like how its pretty simple to maintain. I also highly recommend the Hydrostatic clutch version.
I’m not so sure of the fascination with guns mentality. Mind you, there are plenty of firearms at the house and I believe the just killing of Abe Lincoln was a well done deed but guns are tools, nothing more and nothing less.
I’m also disdainful of the leftist mindset that draws negative analogies between guns and lack of phallus size.
Yet nothing comes between me and my monthly issue of Jugs magazine.
Call me a sinner.
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I’m finally about to give in and lay the scratch down for the Desert Eagle if my moonshining uncle doesn’t gift it to me for my birthday as I expect. I want the .50 cal, and knowing me and my willingness to indulge myself recently, that’s probably what I’ll end up with even though I know the .44 is more prudent. .357? Puhlease.
I mean, if you’re going to go, go all out. Cabala’s was carrying a gold DE a while back. I’m pretty sure it comes with a box of doves to fly around you in slo-mo while you fire it.
Yogi, conceal doesn’t mean much to me with regard to the desert eagle. If I ever pull it, it won’t be to be cheeky and such. It’ll be because someone has earned it. Like the dipshit up the road that is still trying to stalk my mother despite me threatening him with pain not previously realized. He needs a big hole in his flesh. That sounds way worse than I mean it.
Like I’ve said, between shotguns and small caliber hand guns my concerns are not so much home defense these days. And I was joking about the small penis size compensation, fwiw. It’s just really fun to shoot.
FYI, carrying concealed is a pain in the backside, particularly with a large framed gun…I have a 1911 and only because “I wanted one”…The smaller, the better to me, but it’s still a pain..but then again, I’ve had a 9mm tapped on the side of my head by someone who is serving life for murder.
But for those who “can’t pull the trigger”, you really shouldn’t carry and that’s not a knock on your manhood…maybe those of us who “served” are hardened to it, but that’s not a 100 percenter.. I’ve been comfortable around guns all my life with folks who can handle responsibly. But I have little tolerance for those who cannot handle responsibly and are dangerous.
Since this is a garden thread, what is the weapon of choice for Copperheads?
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