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  • #110570
    bill.onthebeach
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    Texas Longhorns lose to Kansas on the gridiron for the first time since 1938..
    that’s 1938… before B’rer ‘Roo, OT13 and Whiteshoes were born…

    Charlie Strong is “available”.

    How much would it take???

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    Ya’ll think we are the lunatic fringe… Texans know BullSh#t when they see and hear it… and they won’t take it. Charlie would love Rawlee….

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #110571
    Wulfpack
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    Word is the Texas boosters will force a Strong firing and a Herman hiring.

    Strong in Raleigh would be fantastic.

    #110572
    mak4dpak
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    No more excuses. Team must be bipolar. Same stupid, costly mistakes, week after week, and we continue to digress. Finally feeling the time for DD needs to come to an end. Horrible in conference record, and we are in year 4. But if change is coming, then please don’t waste money on a coach that is not proven at this level. We deserve better with the facilities we have. Losing is getting very old. Even if we show up Friday, and win. Change is needed. DD is a nice guy, but seems to be in over his head.

    #110574
    choppack1
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    If the goal is making dd seem like a great coach, please ask for Charlie strong. Good grief. That would be epic stupid…but we are nc state.

    #110575
    Gowolves
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    Win or lose, Doreen will still be the head coach next year.

    #110576
    choppack1
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    Again – all evidence indicates that he should not be, unless we are trying to have him break Tom Reed’s conference record.

    If we somehow beat UNC – I can see saying wait for a year, but I don’t see how he keeps his job with a loss.

    Funny, if you were a freshman, all you have known is dave Doeren. He has a 3-13 record @ home. The good news is that going into friday he is 5-10 on the road.

    #110577
    NelsonHall97
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    Hire Mike Leach

    #110580
    NCSU84
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    If Yow still plans on retiring in 2018, no changes will be made until she leaves. We are stuck with DD – get over it and move on.

    #110582
    ryebread
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    UNC will drive that final nail in the coffin. Bye Dave, can’t say it has been nice knowing you.

    #110584
    MrPlywood
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    I don’t get the Strong love. He had his two over-achieving years at Louisville but they were bookended by 5 mediocre years, 2 at L’ville and 3 at Texas.

    #110585
    PackerInRussia
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    YAAAAAAAWN

    #110586
    choppack1
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    Plywood ; it makes zero sense. I

    #110588
    mak4dpak
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    Well if we have to take another year, then DD needs to make some more changes. Special teams and defensive coaches, need improvements. Huxtable could have went out with Canada last year. And maybe we contract Dr. Phil for a once a week session, as the mental aspects of the game seem to plague us every week.

    #110590
    McCallum
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    Hoosiers was on yesterday.

    I watched it.

    McCallum

    #110596
    Adventuroo
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    Comments after NO WINE….

    NCSU84,

    Yow does NOT intend to leave in 2018. Her contract expires on June 30, 2019. And she FULLY expects to complete…barring some unfortunate Health or other issues.

    Doeren’s contract terminates on Dec 31, 2019. So we will not have to worry about the extraordinary expense of a buyout for him.

    OK….having said that…

    observations….some mine….some others…..some combined.

    Some have mistakenly, ME INCLUDED, mistakenly thought that the WOOD CHOPPING comment was a Coach Doeren quip. It was HWWNBSOHA. I owe an apology to HWWNBSOHA. At least when we were “chopping wood”, we were taking down trees and had a mediocre records and went to the NCAA. We were not Paul Bunyan, but we did get by. Right now, the football team looks like Woody Woodpecker in comparison….Maybe I need to change one of my ring tones from the Fight Song to this….

    `https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s637-5A9Gro

    #110599
    NCSU84
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    Ok Adventuroo,

    I was off by 6 months, but I stand by my statements. Why would she “rock the boat’ if she is a short timer? If she is smart (which I know she is), you give those worries to the next AD. Not because you are lazy and don’t want to do your job, but because the new AD will want to select the new coach (ala ECU, UNC, etc.)

    #110600
    NCSU84
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    …and who would accept a coaching job at NCSU knowing that an AD change could occur in 2019?

    #110601
    choppack1
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    If she is smart (which I know she is), you give those worries to the next AD. Not because you are lazy and don’t want to do your job, but because the new AD will want to select the new coach (ala ECU, UNC, etc.)

    So. Let me get this right. The best thing for Yow to do for the over good of the athletic program in general, and football specifically, is to let DD coach until a new AD is named 2 seasons from now?

    You have got to be kidding. We have a coach who has won 3 conference home games in 4 years.

    In case you haven’t noticed, the students have already bailed. Next year the talent looks pretty good, it looked good this year and was capable of competing with 10 of 11 opponents. However, recruiting has gotten consistently worse – I see nothing responsible, honorable or intelligent about giving the next AD a raging dumpster fire like all indications our program will represent if the next 2 are similar to the last 4.

    You always look for those who deviate from the mean for your best evidence…DD has deviated but not in a good way.

    It doesn’t matter what I think, and who knows next year we may make cosmic jump and go 5-3… irrational hope springs eternal.

    #110604
    McCallum
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    Dapper Dave should be terminated after the unc game regardless of the outcome.

    Leach will not leave WSU because they believed in him and he has pulled them out of the ditch.

    State should hire the least qualified candidate-in the opinion of the decision makers at State-because their ability to hire and chose wisely is one of the worse on record.

    McCallum

    *kudos to troll on the picks. Fine job.

    #110605
    TheAliasTroll
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    Hire Mike Leach

    Well, I’m not sure the player’s fat little girlfriends would take too kindly to that.

    #110606
    McCallum
    Participant

    ^
    Hell with ’em bitches.

    McCallum

    #110609
    mak4dpak
    Participant

    Maybe we should look at some former coaches” sons. Holtz or Kiffin? Somebody who is more aggressive.

    #110615
    NCSU84
    Participant

    Choppack,

    What we want and the reality of the situation are two different things. Keep in mind that any new hire would be entering the 2017-18 season as a first year coach with all of the “issues” facing a first year coach and you generally get a pass that first year. This coach would have to DRASTICALLY turn things around in the 2018-19 or face dismissal by the new AD in 2019. Now, are there coaches that would sign-up for this scenario – Yes. But are there any DECENT coaches that would sign up for this job at this point – probably not. These high demand coaches would go elsewhere with a more stable environment. Thus, by firing DD now, our plight of being unable to compete would continue with the wrong person at the helm. So you see, before releasing DD, one has to consider the next step and I cannot see a quality coach enlisting his services for NCSU with a looming AD retirement.

    #110617
    TheAliasTroll
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    Is there any evidence that new AD’s come in and go all Donald Trump on coaches who are early in their tenure? I just don’t really think that would be an issue, especially seeing as coaches have these things called contracts.

    The real issue, in my opinion, is would it be in our best interest for Yow another chance to find a coach after she hired fools gold the first time around?

    #110618
    TheCOWDOG
    Moderator

    AT. What you just stated is what many seem to be missing.

    I’m gonna add one more, based on the 8’s I started throwin’ out post ECU.

    Yow may wish to retire at the end of her contract, but that ain’t necessarily gonna happen.

    The names on big buildings were shooting cannon balls off the bow in July of 2016.

    It is now impossible to roll an 8 the hard way…Things will get dicey. See James’ post.

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