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12/10/2010 at 10:59 AM #85453nitewolfParticipant
I’m with 61Pack. Let the band play the fight song. To Hell with all the loud music.
I think all the rock music is stupid and BOOM reminds me of the later Amato years with lots of hype and chest thumping and nothing to show for it but lost games and butt-loads of penalties..
and, yes, I’m under 40.
12/10/2010 at 11:11 AM #85454BAMParticipantOne idea my friends and I had (and tried to replicate with our own vocal boxes) was using the laugh from the beginning of ‘Crazy Train’ whenever a penalty is called on the opposing team. We had fun with that.
12/10/2010 at 11:20 AM #85455PackMan97ParticipantSaliva’s “Click Click Boom” is a pretty good one, imo.
12/10/2010 at 11:20 AM #85456MrW00FpackMember22. And tanks song gets my vote but i could also go back to BOOM and yea they need to stop with that who lets the dogs out except my 58yr father might be very disappointed in that he seems to think its the coolest ever. it gets annoying hearing who let the dogs out and woofs te whole way home after hes heard it all day and its in his head
12/10/2010 at 11:27 AM #85457El ScrotchoMemberBodies was my favorite when I was a student – but even I’d have to admit that I think it’s a little too over the top and raw for the alumni. It was a good one year thing, but wouldn’t want it long term. POD Boom is second best and works great for highlight clips and is the right length for an intro song.
This is hands down the best highlight video I’ve ever seen for NC State and you can see why BOOM always works great for this kind of thing:
http://www.blingcheese.com/video-84/pod+boom.htmThe main problem with Crazy Train is it’s too long and rambling. And the accompanying graphics that go with it end up being long and rambling as well. An intro song should build to a crescendo and then explode.
Also agree that Thunderstruck is absolutely perfect for kickoffs. I would be thoroughly disappointed if they ever change that.
12/10/2010 at 11:30 AM #85458Pack MentalityParticipantI think Pantera’s “mouth for war” would be great. You can have just the instrumental part or with lyrics. Age 35
12/10/2010 at 11:30 AM #85459wolfweiserMemberFor the purposes of the pumping up the crowd, a lot of songs work. One thing that makes “Here Comes the Boom” great is the video of the big hits from previous games that is played along with it, you can’t help but cringe and scream BOOM with each hit. That is what fires me up, imagine the absolute euphoria we could have experienced this year with Nate!
I love classic rock, Thunderstruck is good for the kickoffs, Crazy Train is good too, but for the reasons above I prefer Boom. The wolf howl is awesome, but it does need to be backed off just a little.
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12/10/2010 at 11:32 AM #85460MasterParticipantDo you know the difference between mean and median?
I’m 54 and I like all kinds of music from 50’s to MM, BEP and literally all things in between. If you focus on one type of music (WTH is “getting hype” or “not as hype”???) you are ignoring the pre-game thought process of the vast majority of the crowd.
Country music is vastly more popular than anything that’s been mentioned on this thread, but can you imagine hearing that just before the team runs onto the field. Some feel the same way about your choices.
Sounds to me like you enjoy anything with a “threat-level-red” beat in an urban or grunge genre. I guess that works if you’re hoping to pump up the students. It has an opposite effect for a lot of others – particularly traditionalist – who detest that kind of music. We have two fight songs that everyone should know and love. Outside of that, it’s a crap shoot on what kind of music gets a crowd fired up to watch football and cheer for their team. If you’re looking for anything stronger than that, I think you’re hoping for too much.
Final thought, is there anything more adolescent than a music snob?
12/10/2010 at 11:32 AM #85461BAMParticipantYeah, the Training Day / ‘BOOM’ montage is the best we’ve ever had.
12/10/2010 at 11:35 AM #85462BAMParticipant“Do you know the difference between mean and median?”
Yes, I took Stats in college. Using the mean, really old fans would have disproportionate pull on the average age. Using median, I probably am very close to the representative average age of a Wolfpack fan. We won’t even go into mode.
12/10/2010 at 11:39 AM #85463wolfpack821MemberKind of off topic, but whatever happened to the videos of Mr. Wuf beating up on the opposing teams mascot before the game (usually based on a popular movie at the time). I remember the one against ECU was set to the Pirates of the Carribean music and was really cool. Also the one against UNX from four years ago set to the movie 300 was really awesome. I wish they would continue with those.
12/10/2010 at 11:42 AM #85464BAMParticipant“Sounds to me like you enjoy anything with a “threat-level-red†beat in an urban or grunge genre. I guess that works if you’re hoping to pump up the students.”
Yes, the goal is to pump up those who can make the most noise, which is usually the students, 20 and 30-somethings… and not the elderly. Also, you want to get the players hyped up (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hyped+up) and ready to kick some arse.
“It has an opposite effect for a lot of others – particularly traditionalist – who detest that kind of music.” I guess those people are offended at any sporting event? Why stop now?
12/10/2010 at 11:44 AM #85465nitewolfParticipantI wish they wouldn’t continue with those videos…they’re extremely corny and doubly embarrassing if the Wolfpack loses. My most hated video, though, had to have been in 2005 when unc was playing us. At halftime, after getting punked out for two quarters, someone decided it was a good idea to play a video of State students making fun of the heels (smurf references and the like)…the response was dead silence with a few hisses in the mix. I believe that video came from the same genius crew that decided ‘mexi-cam’ was funny…
12/10/2010 at 11:49 AM #85466MasterParticipantHard to please any one of those groups without “possibly” offending the rest. It’s possible the powers making the decision have identified the music which connects with the largest group, but dissappoints the largest cohort – the students. Just sayin….
12/10/2010 at 11:53 AM #85467BAMParticipant“It’s possible the powers making the decision have identified the music which connects with the largest group, but dissappoints the largest cohort ”
I think you are giving them way too much credit. Do you really think anything is “thought out” by that rag-tag marketing department?
12/10/2010 at 11:53 AM #85468Maybe I’m just too immature, but I loved “boom” and the videos. My favorite was the Jurassic Park – VT video with the wolf eating the caged up turkey. Win or loose, the stadium was 10x more hyped than when we just play the fight song with some lame video. I understand that some people don’t like it, but it has to be a better way to start a game than the tranquil and UNC-like environment that we had at kick most of this year.
You want to know what should really be done? Ask the football players. They are who needs to perform. Who cares what you or I like??
12/10/2010 at 11:54 AM #85469LRMKeymasterI watched Alabama run out at Bryant Denny to simply the band playing the fight song (after an into video like we have) and it was a subtle yet awe-inspiring moment.
Our band has grown and improved so much over the past decade, and we really should use it to our advantage like so many other schools do. I really like how they’re playing more between plays (the quick N-C-S-U Go State one in particular) and they were great at Kenan. And yet we drown out half the fight song during the intro with pumped-in noise.
I get more peturbed each season with the increased amount of noise they pump into C-F, and I blame the Canes influence for that.
12/10/2010 at 11:55 AM #85470BAMParticipantKinda on topic, I also think we should once a year have Kevin Nash (right?) in person to scream out “Wolfpack In The House!!!!!” … I think it would be especially awesome for a Thursday night or other nationally televised game.
12/10/2010 at 11:58 AM #85471BAMParticipant“You want to know what should really be done? Ask the football players.”
Great idea! If they choose it, I have no qualms. I just fear it’s some disconnected computer jock making the call now.
Now that I think about it, I guess my real problem with Crazy Train is that there is no climax or crescendo, it’s just kinda blah the whole way through. Anyways, I’m not saying my opinion is correct, I mainly just wanted to hear others opinions and you all have done that! Thanks!12/10/2010 at 12:01 PM #85472BAMParticipant“One thing that makes “Here Comes the Boom†great is the video of the big hits from previous games that is played along with it, you can’t help but cringe and scream BOOM with each hit. That is what fires me up, imagine the absolute euphoria we could have experienced this year with Nate!”
Agreed and agreed!
12/10/2010 at 12:03 PM #85473Wolfpack_1995Member“Right Here Right Now” by Van Halen was my fav. I would like to see this back in the mix. Very good intro imo.
12/10/2010 at 12:11 PM #85474SeaWolfMemberunx had a better intro than us, and they used this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7vF8zGeljA
I think there is some power in classical music (see 2001: A Space Odyssey).
If we are going to go that route. I vote using the whole Muse intro from the U2 360 tour. http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=AKED_4rTHiA&feature=related
It’s a combination of a scene in Prokofiev’s Romeo and Juliet followed by the song “Uprising.” http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=w8KQmps-Sog
If you want to go the single song route, might I suggest Audioslave’s “Cochise.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDMvN45sjo4
The problem with “Crazy Train” is the huge lull between the song finishing and the players running out. It makes me angry thinking about it.
12/10/2010 at 12:17 PM #85475nitewolfParticipantLRM, I think you are right on the money.
I believe NCSU has always had a passionate-enough fanbase and, in my opinion, one of the better and underrated marching bands in Division 1 to whip the crowd into a frenzy all on their own.
Some folks may call the rock music stuff a ‘genrational thing’ but I think it’s more of a ‘conditioning thing’ since it’s probably all that some of the crop of fans that have been to CF in the last 12 years have been used to. I still believe the fanbase can make enough noise without all the extras.
12/10/2010 at 12:21 PM #85476leftbrain99MemberMy opinions:
1) Mic the band.
2) Current use of the loudspeaker system is modest and effective (was overdone during the Amato years)
3) Don’t bitch about music unless you have the words to the REAL fight song (not the Red & White song) AND the Alma Mater memorized, and sing them (or at least say the words) while played. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Carolina_State_Wolfpack#NC_State_Fight_Song12/10/2010 at 12:39 PM #85477baxterMemberAs a music enthusiast I have no respect for pod and it frustrate me to read about Oregon where they blast awesome music in practice. I would like something modern, with a sick beat, rap, hip hop maybe a mash up of a classic beat and nice flow of lyrics…. there is a lot of great music out there that can fill the 30 to 60 seconds necessary for pump up way better than a $***ty loop of crazy train with awful video editing.
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