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09/08/2013 at 12:57 AM #36462Alpha WolfKeymaster
Mark Gottfried has made a solid addition to his 2014 recruiting class with the addition of Abdul Malik Abu: North Carolina State landed a big commitme
[See the full post at: Abu To Play Hoops At NC State]09/08/2013 at 7:26 AM #36463EdMarParticipantIt’s getting better all the time…
09/08/2013 at 8:26 AM #36464choppack1ParticipantHuge pickup for the wolfpack. We needed this.
09/08/2013 at 9:56 AM #36465redcanineParticipantGood job by Gott & Early on this. Abu is going to help us win games.
09/08/2013 at 10:10 AM #36466PoppaJohnParticipantSurprised at the list of suitors. No major hoops powerhouses like KU, UK, the blues, etc on his list. You’d expect to see several of the name brands from the northeast.
Nice to pick up what appears to be a talented big who is unlikely to immediately jump to the NBA, but curious about what the lack of major offers is telling us. Nobody flies under the radar anymore.Keep it up, Gott!!
09/08/2013 at 10:15 AM #36467Fastback68ParticipantRedcanine, I saw your 3:22 pm post yesterday and scared my dog when I screamed yes. Abu is for real. Excellent acquisition Mr. Gott and company.
09/08/2013 at 10:35 AM #36468WufpackerParticipantCan we start calling him “Mos Def”initely, now that he’s committed?
Separated at birth.
09/08/2013 at 1:21 PM #36469Pack LeaderParticipantHUGE commitment!!!
Eight top 100 recruits in three years… #InGottWeTrust
09/08/2013 at 2:28 PM #36470WTNYParticipant09/08/2013 at 3:21 PM #36471Tau837ParticipantI must say, Gottfried can certainly recruit. His classes so far (first number = overall rank, second number = position rank):
2011 – TF PG Alex Johnson (?,?), SG Jaqawn Raymond (NR, 82), PF Tyler Harris (139,22), PF Thomas DeThaey (NR,NR)
2012 – PG Tyler Lewis (49,4), SG Rodney Purvis (17,6), SF T.J. Warren (23,6), TF SG Ralston Turner (119,25)
2013 – PG Cat Barber (22, 5), C Beejay Anya (59,5), C Kyle Washington (99,13), TF SG Trevor Lacey (38,11), PF Lennard Freeman (NR,NR), JC SG Desmond Lee (NR,NR)
2014 – SF Caleb Martin (45,13), SF Cody Martin (107,27), PF Abdul-Malik Abu (47,10)
Note: all positions and rankings from Verbal Commits.
Given Gottfried took over in April, 2011, it’s no surprise that class was weak and all three players other than senior transfer Alex Johnson later transferred out of the program. But, as of right now, in the 3 classes Gottfried fully recruited since taking over, he has signed 10 players who were in the top 25 at their position, including 6 players who were top 10 at their position. With several offers still outstanding for the class of 2014.
He’s not recruiting on par with UNC or Duke, but his recruiting is a lot better and more consistent than State has had since Valvano.
I’d love to see someone with access to better data than me post a detailed comparison of Gott’s recruiting at State vs. past N.C. State coaches and Gott’s recruiting at State vs. the national field (i.e., where does he rank?).
09/08/2013 at 4:30 PM #36472VaWolf82KeymasterPersonally, I see little/no value in ranking coaches based on something as subjective as recruiting rankings. I much prefer the objective measure of results. This means that Gott has matched Herb, is ahead of Lowe & Robinson, and behind everyone else back to at least Case.
09/08/2013 at 4:43 PM #36473WufpackerParticipant^ Yes Va, I agree. But the night is still young.
09/08/2013 at 6:27 PM #36474redcanineParticipantSince someone mentioned it, I like how that Verbal Commits site measures talent. They use a composite of 3 major recruiting sites (ESPN, Rivals, Scout) and rates players by the average of the three. From that, there is a team average.
NCSU is the 5th most talented team in the ACC coming into the ’13-14 season, behind DU, UNX, Syr, and Mary…
I really don’t know what this has to do with Abu…sorry for rambling.
09/08/2013 at 6:53 PM #36475VaWolf82KeymasterLink?
09/08/2013 at 6:57 PM #36476redcanineParticipant09/08/2013 at 7:10 PM #36477Alpha WolfKeymasterOne thing that is going to be interesting is how the NC State fanbase handles Abu’s faith — he’s Muslim and he’s not casual about his beliefs. I’ve read multiple accounts that say he’s a better player than his rankings but is rated lower because he strictly observed Ramadan and fasted until sunset the entire month of the holiday this summer.
Me, I know many Muslims and can certainly discern between them and Islamists as easily as I can Christians and Eric Rudolph. Guys like him and the ones terrorists in the Middle East use religion as an excuse for their actions while what they do runs contrary to the mainstreams of their respective faiths.
09/08/2013 at 7:41 PM #36478BJD95KeymasterSo what you’re saying is…we will have Allah on our side soon?
09/08/2013 at 7:43 PM #36479WulfpackParticipantHe’s bringing them in. But can he coach them? That remains to be seen.
09/08/2013 at 7:49 PM #36480Alpha WolfKeymasterIf he coached like he did at the end of his first year all of the time, we’d be fine. If he loses his team the way he did last year, he’s in trouble. Debbie won’t have Lee’s patience, not by a mile.
09/08/2013 at 7:58 PM #36481WulfpackParticipantAbsolutely agree with that assessment.
09/08/2013 at 8:00 PM #36482redcanineParticipantThe mormon kid, Dastrup, is officially off of our board. 😉
09/08/2013 at 10:05 PM #36483TexpackParticipantOlajuwon fasted during Ramadan. If he’s 70% of The Dream we’ll be ok.
09/08/2013 at 10:08 PM #36484packalum44ParticipantI hope Abu grows some more hes undersized like Howell. To play good defense we need comparable height to the elite programs.
09/08/2013 at 11:33 PM #3648544rulesParticipantIf we keep reeling in recruits and they translate to wins, I’ll go Allah Akbar all day long.
Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy. Mao Zedong
09/09/2013 at 12:43 AM #36486JeremyHParticipant“This means that Gott has matched Herb”
finally someone agrees
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