Your “Where’s Gen. Wm Tecumseh Sherman When You Need Him?” at GT Open Thread

That was one damn ugly Yankee, no?  He knew how to deal with Atlanta tho.  Then 150 years later, the Falcons make him proud in SB LI.

But I digress….

The ailing Pack (14-14, 3-12 ACC) heads to Atlanta tonight to face the Yellow Jackets of GT (16-11, 7-7 ACC).

Instead of just playing out the string in a sunken season…..Let’s burn it down.

That is all.

The Notre Dame Game

Was there a game?  Sorry I was distracted by all of the talking heads taking shots at us.

In truth, NC State isn’t a very good job. Sure, there’s a strong history, great facilities and a loyal fan base. But there’s an endless winter in the shadow of Duke and North Carolina. Plus, the Wolfpack also lead the ACC in unrealistic expectations, as Gottfried made four NCAA tournaments in six years and got fired two days after Valentine’s Day. (To be fair, his team played with all the poise and discipline of Marmaduke chasing his tail for most of the season).

Oh look at that last sentence….hedging your bets are you, Mr. Sportswriter?  Just so you know, Marmaduke’s been chasing his tail for TWO years now.  But worry not Mr. Sportswriter, because you are an example of loser mentality.  Thanks for illustrating for me.  Thusly, regarding your opinion….

StillDontCare

Anyway, we dug ourselves too big of a hole.  Couldn’t dig our way out, more or less.  After seven straight losses, it’s nothing new or Earth shattering at this point.

NC State at Georgia Tech

Tipoff: Tuesday, February 21, 8pm

Coverage: ACC Network (Locally on WRAL5)

Line: GT -3.5, o/u 145.5

Pack to Battle Georgia Tech on Tuesday (GoPack.com)

Pack Tracks
– NC State’s second half comeback fell short Saturday afternoon at #25/20 Notre Dame as the Fighting Irish defeated the Pack, 81-72. Freshman Dennis Smith, Jr., led the Pack in scoring for the 15th time this season – and 10th time in 15 ACC games – with 16 points. Maverick Rowan added 15 points and freshman Markell Johnson finished with a career-best 12 points.
– Freshman Dennis Smith, Jr., has shot 50 percent or better from the field in six straight games and seven of the last eight. He is shooting 54.8 percent (40-of-73) from the field during the current six game stretch. For the season, Smith is shooting 46.8 percent from the field to rank 10th in the ACC. He now leads ACC freshmen in six statistical categories: points (18.9), assists (6.61), assist-to-turnover ratio (2.01), steals (1.96), field goal percentage (46.8) and minutes played/game (34.5).
– Junior Abdul-Malik Abu is averaging 14.3 points per game and shooting 57.1 percent from the field (24-of-42) in NC State’s last four road games.
– Georgia Tech has won the last two meetings between the two teams. Prior to that, NC State had won five straight in the series. The Pack has won four of the last five games played at Georgia Tech.

Georgia Tech Basketball Hosts NC State (RamblinWreck.com)

Tech (16-11, 7-7 ACC), which has defied pre-season projections in its first season under head coach Josh Pastner, has dropped three of its last five ACC games, but won its last game against Syracuse, 71-65, Sunday night at home. The Yellow Jackets, 14-3 at home this season, including three wins over top-15 teams, entered this week’s games tied for ninth place in the ACC standings with Virginia Tech.

NC State (14-14, 3-12) comes to Atlanta having lost its last seven games since knocking off Duke on Jan. 23 at Cameron Indoor Stadium, including an 81-72 defeat to no. 25 Notre Dame at home Saturday. The Wolfpack, 1-7 on the road this season, dropped an 86-76 decision to Tech on Jan. 15 in Raleigh in the teams’ first meeting.

Tuesday’s game will be televised on the ACC Network (Peachtree TV in Atlanta) and will be streamed live online on the ACC Network Extra. Radio coverage is provided by Tech’s flagship station, 680 the Fan (680 AM/93.7 FM), and is available via satellite radio (Sirius ch. 132, XM ch. 194).

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SERIES NOTES VS. NC STATE

• NC State has a 56-39 lead in the overall series which dates back to 1925. Georgia Tech snapped a five-game skid in the series with last year’s 90-83 victory at PNC Arena and won again on the Wolfpack’s home floor on Jan. 15 of this season, 86-76. Prior to that five-game skid, Tech had won six of nine meetings.

• Owing to the ACC’s most recent expansion, this is the first time Tech and NC State are meeting twice in the regular season in four years.

• Eighteen of the last 22 meetings in the series have been decided by 10 points or less, with three of those decided in overtime.

• Tech is 22-17 against the Wolfpack in Atlanta, including one home-court meeting that was played at the Omni in 1986 and one at Philips Arena in 2012. NC State has won both games played at McCamish Pavilion.

• Since it joined the ACC, Tech is 31-42 against NC State, including regular-season and tournament.

 

Three to know: N.C. State at Georgia Tech (FayObserver.com)

1. What’s on the line

What’s on the line for N.C. State? Well, not much. The Wolfpack is a week or so removed from announcing the firing of its coach, Mark Gottfried, who will be on the bench the rest of the season. Snapping its seven-game losing skid would be nice, but merely showing some fight – as it did in the closing stretch of Saturday’s loss to Notre Dame – is an improvement.

Georgia Tech, though, still has plenty to play for. While the Yellow Jackets have come down from the heady days of January, when – after knocking off Florida State and Notre Dame – they were the ACC’s must buzzworthy team, they’re still in the mix for a NCAA tournament bid. Of course, they have plenty of work left to do to get it, but a loss tonight would make that hill much steeper.

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3. The last time…

It seems like ages ago, but Georgia Tech’s 86-76 win against the Wolfpack at PNC Arena on Jan. 15 was the point at which many felt N.C. State’s season went irrevocably off course. The defensive issues that had been a cause for concern earlier now became a cause for downright panic.

The Yellow Jackets got 31 baskets on 24 assists and looked mostly unbothered on their way to putting up their best scoring performance of the season against a Division I team. Freshman Josh Okogie had 27 points and senior Quinton Stephens had a season-high 22.

After the game, Gottfried, who had been generally positive about his team to that point, lit into the Wolfpack, questioning its toughness, defense and willingness to work.

“Our team better learn how to get a little tougher, bottom line,” he told reporters. “… And we better make a decision at some point whether we’re going to guard somebody.”

Sort of Wolven Song

Go Pack!!!!!

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  • #118740
    Adventuroo
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    No wonder the world is leaving us behind in Math and Science…..

    #118741
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Technically….U*NC shouldn’t have an athletic department at all. Games invalid!!

    5-11 is just a running joke now, prediction was made pre-season, twas pointed out we played 18 ACC games now, but being ornery, Mc stuck by it.

    #118742
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    1 more win gets us .500 overall. Prolly need at least 2-3 to get NIT bubble. Not sure we’d accept, though.

    #118743
    Heelh8r
    Participant

    McOrnery has a ring to it I like it

    #118744
    saigonwolf
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    I’m just waiting for the first poster to come on here wavering, questioning, did we make a mistake? Bank on it. It’ll happen. But I don’t give a rat’s a$$ – 51 point loss at the Nose Dome – largest margin of victory for them against us ever. 30 point loss at the Joel – largest margin of victory for them against us ever. Those two transgressions alone cannot stand for me. No looking back.

    #118745
    Wufpacker
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    BUT….we will be at the BEST….6 and 12. We are 4 and 12 NOW (after the GT win). How are we going to go BACK to 11 losses?

    hard work. gumption. a sticktoitiveness we have never seen before.

    LMFAO

    #118746
    ryebread
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    Good to get a win. I figured after this was official the players would play loose and harder and we’d get two more regular season wins (GT and Clemson). We may win one at the ACC tournament as well, but that is about it.

    #118747
    bill.onthebeach
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    Well… was ‘singing’ during the first half, listened to most of the second half on the radio — decided to lay low and not muck up the ju-ju….

    Refs were inconsistent which helped assure the close finish…

    Has anything this team done this season really been a “surprise”? They’re still far too unpredictable to predict.

    It’s good to see our less talented “hustlers” getting critical development time on the court… Markel started, Kapita had a good night again… Hicks is another one with good feet, but he didn’t get to use them…

    Anya is becoming legendary… for odd reasons.

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #118755
    44rules
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    Was at the game, and Packlanta half-filled a fairly large bar for the pregame a few blocks away. Great night.

    The good: We hit shots – Henderson was really good. We rebounded – first time since the Todd Fuller administration, I reckon.
    The bad: They still drove around us to the basket like a Porsche swerving around pylons. And we really don’t seem to run a discernible offense much of the time – pass around the perimeter and play hero ball at the end.

    But a win is a win. Particularly when you get to watch it in person.

    Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy. Mao Zedong

    #118756
    Adventuroo
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    I woke up in the middle of a dream this morning. There were NO recreational chemicals or other mind altering chemicals involved nor any alcohol as I had to fast and no liquids for a surgical procedure later today.

    We were celebrating in Raleigh over the UVA (NOT GT) win. Bars were open all night and there were OTR rigs (think NASCAR Driver Merchandise) with NCSU logo items. One bar had rented the Cow Palace and there was a circus going on. PETA was not there, so there may have been animals.

    If this is a predictor, then we will be memorialized….

    Seriously (and the dream story is TRUE), we played an excellent game for about 36 minutes last night. Can’t remember the time….probably under 5 when we were up by 13. The last play was executed perfectly by GT and it was an Wide OPEN uncontested (although a bit hurried) shot. Just did NOT drop…+3 would have put us down -1….

    Lucky that we did not totally fall apart. Great effort. I still think that Anya should be given the Spirit of the Pack award for team spirit….

    We have not presented that since Corchiani and Googs got one…

    #118757
    Greywolf
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    The players gave a superb effort but they were not well coached. Why make the last free throw?

    #118758
    gso packbacker
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    Good point Grey, but do you notice the irony of your statement? 🙂

    Anyway, I don’t know if I would have had him miss it, but I do know I would have had someone guarding the inbound pass.

    #118759
    Greywolf
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    Good point Grey, but do you notice the irony of your statement? :)

    Anyway, I don’t know if I would have had him miss it, but I do know I would have had someone guarding the inbound pass.

    I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer. What was the irony?

    There is no way GT could rebound the missed free throw, throw a full court pass and shoot in the time remaining. Making the free throw gave them the only chance they had.

    #118763
    gso packbacker
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    Grey,

    “They’re not well coached” and “Why make the last free throw?”.

    Perhaps the explanation for the latter IS the former.

    I don’t know, but I found humor in the possibility.

    Also, I would have fouled the Syracuse shooter at the end of regulation, giving him 2 free throws instead of a 3-pt attempt.

    #118764
    JeremyH
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    maybe one more column to add for the metrics on candidate coaches, “win/loss record in games decided by 3 points or less”.

    #118765
    FergusWolf
    Participant

    I think you have to make the last free throw. If you don’t, then a foul “on the floor” or a quick shot/rebound cause you to lose the game. This forced them for a 3 to win, 2 to tie…which is better (imho) for 2 to win

    #118766
    Tyler_Durden
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    The ACC needs an overhaul. Having the absolutely corrupt and provincial john swofford as commissioner is hurting us as a conference. What he doesn’t get is that the basketball aspect is a lot more than Duke v unc.

    Insofar as NC State – need to hire a Trump-like coach. One who flat out does not care and will call it like he sees it.

    #118768
    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    maybe one more column to add for the metrics on candidate coaches, “win/loss record in games decided by 3 points or less”.

    That’s really funny for those of us that have been around for a while.

    #118769
    Greywolf
    Participant

    I think you have to make the last free throw. If you don’t, then a foul “on the floor” or a quick shot/rebound cause you to lose the game. This forced them for a 3 to win, 2 to tie…which is better (imho) for 2 to win

    With a lead, don’t foul. If you are stupid enough to foul, you deserve to lose.

    There is not enough time to rebound a miss and throw it the length of the court and then get a shot off.

    The clock starts when the ball hits the rim on a miss. On a rebounded miss, time expires before the ball gets to the front court.

    On a made shot the clock starts when the ball is caught or touched by the opponent after the in-bounds play. The only way a missed shot beats you is in the unlikely event the rebounder throws in a 90 footer after rebounding the miss.

    #118770
    FergusWolf
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    Normally, I wouldn’t disagree, but given the fact that the refs seemed like they wanted to give the game to GT, don’t you think that we manage to screw that up?

    #118771
    FergusWolf
    Participant

    Also, I was at that Florida game…I saw that guy hit the shot from the ACC logo

    #118775
    Khan
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    I see lack of composure down the stretch is a skill we still exhibit with stunning competence.

    #118776
    wolfpackdawg
    Participant

    GT has a good Coach it seems.

    #118778
    Greywolf
    Participant

    Also, I was at that Florida game…I saw that guy hit the shot from the ACC logo

    There any number of last second shots made such as the Florida game. Reminder, the shooter had time to get a shot off after catching the ball. That shot would have won the game last night. You are making my point for me citing 3-point shots that were made after an in-bounds play.

    The shot taken after the made free throw last night was from the 3-point line — a shot that bounced off the rim.

    My point and only point is that there would not have been time to rebound a missed free throw, pass to any open man and get a shot off in the 2.7 seconds remaining. With the made shot, there was time to get a decent 3-point shot off which they almost made.

    #118787
    PackerInRussia
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    I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer. What was the irony?

    It’s like goldy and bronzey. Only made of iron.

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