Men’s Basketball Player Turnover Under Mark Gottfried

Mark Gottfried NCS Basketball503

As best as I can tell, this is the turnover under Gott. Just going to leave this here for reference.

11-12

Painter – transfer (family issues)
Harris – transfer
Raymond – transfer

12-13

Leslie – left early, never played in NBA
Brown – left early, NBA
Purvis – transfer
de Thaey – left to go wherever

13-14
Warren – left early, NBA
Lewis – transfer

14-15

Lacey – left early, never played in NBA
Washington – transfer
Wallace – walk on transfer

15-16

Barber – left early, NBA ?
Martin – transfer
Martin – transfer

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  • 05/16/2016 at 10:44 PM #103501
    Tau837
    Participant
    freshmanin83 wrote:

    Ooops sorry my bad. I thought the statement was so outrageous and over the top that it would be taken as it was intended to be sarcasm.

    And this is why I said “some fans” and did not direct my response at you, since I recognized it could be sarcasm from you but feel it holds true for others. And Rick has now proved my point.

    05/16/2016 at 10:45 PM #103502
    Tau837
    Participant
    TheCOWDOG wrote:

    Seeing a Silver Lining after a loss is a far cry from “Hoping for a loss.”

    I have no respect for those pulling for a loss. NONE.

    …But that should be evident…And yeah. It does reflect on your fanship, self-aware, or not.

    This.

    05/17/2016 at 6:57 AM #103505
    wolfmanmat
    Participant

    Cheering against your team is ridiculous. If you dont like the coach, sorry, but cheering for him to lose so hes fired is just insane. We need to understand what are program is…and is not. We are not Duke, Carolina or Kentucky. We are closer to wake forest, miami, georgia tech. We are going to have years like this year where we miss the tourney and cant fire the coach every time it happen. Particularly a coach that just took us to the sweet 16. Gott is not Tony Bennett that is winning with style of play and defense. Gott is a recruiter who wins with talent. He can and has won at State and some want him gone after one bad season. Some are mad about the transfers- but which transfer improved their position or was a star at the next stop? The Martins are rumored to ECU, Washington is at a mid major, Purvis isnt on pro radar at all. These guys arent great or even more than good college players. They are replaceable kids who thought they couldnt be replaced. The loses that hurt are TJ, Cat, Lacey and all left or are leaving to make money.

    05/17/2016 at 7:22 AM #103507
    Rick
    Keymaster
    Tau837 wrote:
    Rick wrote:
    Tau837 wrote:
    freshmanin83 wrote:

    This is really kind of bad news is it not. What if the Pack is good next year? That might mean Gott will have more breathing room and not be as easy to gott rid of.

    This is the problem with some “fans.” Some would rather see State lose to fit their agenda than see them succeed and miss their agenda.

    So this is the part when we measure someone’s “fanhood” by how much they agree with your opinion…

    I guess you never hoped we would lose out with Lowe so we could get rid of that weight around our neck. If not I guarantee you are in the minority as anyone with a brain knew he was never going to win anything.

    Correct. I have never hoped for State to lose any game. If you have, you aren’t much of a fan. Sorry if the truth hurts.

    Whatever, only a fool wanted Lowe around.

    05/17/2016 at 9:33 AM #103515
    VaWolf82
    Keymaster
    Rick wrote:

    Whatever, only a fool wanted Lowe around.

    Yea and we had several around here. But even then, there was no need to pull against State because it was already obvious that Sid couldn’t win and it was only a matter of time.

    05/17/2016 at 12:28 PM #103519
    MP
    Participant

    In 2006 I cheered for our ranked team to beat UNC at home and watched us get drilled by over 20. I cheered for us in the ACCT that year to watch us lose in the 1st round. I cheered for us against Texas in the NCAAT in what became another 20-point drubbing.

    All while developing an increasing loathing for Herb Sendek.

    I guess I’m one of the fools around here.

    05/17/2016 at 1:03 PM #103520
    BJD95
    Keymaster
    VaWolf82 wrote:
    Rick wrote:

    Whatever, only a fool wanted Lowe around.

    Yea and we had several around here. But even then, there was no need to pull against State because it was already obvious that Sid couldn’t win and it was only a matter of time.

    This is a wonderful engineer’s answer.

    05/17/2016 at 1:26 PM #103522
    VaWolf82
    Keymaster
    BJD95 wrote:

    This is a wonderful engineer’s answer.

    That’s because I’m a wonderful engineer!

    05/17/2016 at 2:18 PM #103523
    TheCOWDOG
    Moderator
    VaWolf82 wrote:
    BJD95 wrote:

    This is a wonderful engineer’s answer.

    That’s because I’m a wonderful engineer!

    Yeah…but are you fun at parties?
    😉

    05/17/2016 at 2:46 PM #103524
    VaWolf82
    Keymaster
    TheCOWDOG wrote:

    Yeah…but are you fun at parties?
    ?

    Completely sidetacking a whipped, dead horse of a thread…..

    What part of “engineer” was confusing?

    05/17/2016 at 3:55 PM #103526
    Tau837
    Participant

    Well, my last post didn’t show up, but it’s probably just as well. Others have covered it well enough.

    05/17/2016 at 4:03 PM #103527
    TheCOWDOG
    Moderator

    Tau…latest guy with a target on his back?

    05/17/2016 at 4:07 PM #103517
    Tau837
    Participant
    Rick wrote:
    Tau837 wrote:
    Rick wrote:
    Tau837 wrote:
    freshmanin83 wrote:

    This is really kind of bad news is it not. What if the Pack is good next year? That might mean Gott will have more breathing room and not be as easy to gott rid of.

    This is the problem with some “fans.” Some would rather see State lose to fit their agenda than see them succeed and miss their agenda.

    So this is the part when we measure someone’s “fanhood” by how much they agree with your opinion…

    I guess you never hoped we would lose out with Lowe so we could get rid of that weight around our neck. If not I guarantee you are in the minority as anyone with a brain knew he was never going to win anything.

    Correct. I have never hoped for State to lose any game. If you have, you aren’t much of a fan. Sorry if the truth hurts.

    Whatever, only a fool wanted Lowe around.

    So you opened by criticizing me for criticizing others because they don’t agree with my opinion. I respond to say I don’t agree with your opinion, so you call me a fool. So not only are you a jerk, you are also a hypocrite.

    The only surprise is that you would show it so clearly in black and white.

    I never said I wanted Lowe around. As others have correctly pointed out, not wanting a coach around does not equate to hoping State loses. Do you really not get that?

    05/17/2016 at 4:09 PM #103528
    Rick
    Keymaster
    Tau837 wrote:

    Well, my last post didn’t show up, but it’s probably just as well. Others have covered it well enough.

    It was in pending. As I stated before I have no idea what sends it to pending.

    05/17/2016 at 4:19 PM #103529
    Rick
    Keymaster
    Tau837 wrote:

    I never said I wanted Lowe around. As others have correctly pointed out, not wanting a coach around does not equate to hoping State loses. Do you really not get that?

    It was obvious Lowe was a bad coach and getting rid of him as quickly as possible was the best thing for NCSU, I don’t know how anyone can argue with that point. I wanted to get rid of him and if losing was the way to do it then so be it, it took five years of sucking for us to get rid of him so it took a lot of losing for the powers that be would make a decision. I don’t enjoy losing or want to lose but sometimes there is short term pain for long term gain. I am not sure why that us such a hard concept.

    Tau837 wrote:

    I never said I wanted Lowe around.

    Then why are you so mad about a statement made about people who did want to keep Lowe around?

    05/17/2016 at 4:49 PM #103530
    gso packbacker
    Participant

    Tip for the day: When it’s always someone else, then maybe, just maybe, it’s actually you.

    05/17/2016 at 4:56 PM #103532
    tractor57
    Participant

    I think most of us hoped Lowe would do well but were holding our breath. In some ways he “took one for the team” like Les did years ago. In other ways he was totally unprepared. Got has been a better choice than Sid but I still have some reservations. Better is good but is this much better good enough? I think not but I’m not quite ready to go through another coach search.

    05/17/2016 at 5:05 PM #103533
    Fastback68
    Participant
    gso packbacker wrote:

    Tip for the day: When it’s always someone else, then maybe, just maybe, it’s actually you.

    There was an awesome version of that sentiment on Justified.

    05/17/2016 at 5:36 PM #103536
    Rick
    Keymaster
    tractor57 wrote:

    I think most of us hoped Lowe would do well but were holding our breath. In some ways he “took one for the team” like Les did years ago. In other ways he was totally unprepared. Got has been a better choice than Sid but I still have some reservations. Better is good but is this much better good enough? I think not but I’m not quite ready to go through another coach search.

    This is where I am.

    05/17/2016 at 5:45 PM #103537
    gso packbacker
    Participant

    Fastback, I just found that quote. Classic!

    05/17/2016 at 6:31 PM #103540
    TheCOWDOG
    Moderator

    05/17/2016 at 7:07 PM #103542
    tjfoose1
    Participant

    Tip for the day: When it’s always someone else, then maybe, just maybe, it’s actually you.

    On another note, but maybe not…

    Taxes, sun rising in the east, and lil Rickie making new friends. Some things you can always count on.

    05/17/2016 at 7:56 PM #103544
    Fastback68
    Participant

    Thanks for the video.

    I miss Ava and Winona.

    05/18/2016 at 9:06 AM #103554
    VaWolf82
    Keymaster
    tractor57 wrote:

    Better is good but is this much better good enough?

    Deserves to be repeated.

    05/18/2016 at 10:34 AM #103555
    StateRed44
    Participant

    When was the last time State had 2 potential lottery picks on one team? At this juncture maybe you malcontents should quit backbiting the coach and enjoy the upcoming season. You are not gonna be secure in seeing recruits stay 4 years and then graduate or go pro anymore. It will always be a scramble. Get used to it and give up on your control issues. It’s about the record (which is good enough today). Let’s see how we do, shall we?

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