Men’s Basketball Player Turnover Under Mark Gottfried

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As best as I can tell, this is the turnover under Gott. Just going to leave this here for reference.

11-12

Painter – transfer (family issues)
Harris – transfer
Raymond – transfer

12-13

Leslie – left early, never played in NBA
Brown – left early, NBA
Purvis – transfer
de Thaey – left to go wherever

13-14
Warren – left early, NBA
Lewis – transfer

14-15

Lacey – left early, never played in NBA
Washington – transfer
Wallace – walk on transfer

15-16

Barber – left early, NBA ?
Martin – transfer
Martin – transfer

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  • 05/13/2016 at 7:34 PM #103340
    Adventuroo
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    OK,

    So there IS some good news this week. Avent will recover…..but the Snake….he done paid the price.

    Hicks looks like a good grab. BUT, we have had so many good grabs before in oh some many times and oh so many ways.

    Time will tell. You can not build an empire around freshman….I think we’ve tried that before.

    BUT, you DO need some Scholly types to even have a good practice.

    05/14/2016 at 1:10 AM #103347
    JeremyH
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    Looks to be a Josh Davis-type spark plug player.
    ..who ended up going to SD State after Tulane following NC State?
    it really is a free agent-like atmosphere now.

    05/14/2016 at 9:02 AM #103351
    choppack1
    Participant

    As it should be Jeremy – these guys aren’t endentured servants.

    I imagine these kids want 3 things:
    1) develop their game so they can make a living at it professionally.
    2) play for championships.
    3) playing time
    For some, they probably even want a good college education and college experience.

    If 2 of those first 3 aren’t happening, it’s a perfectly understandable position to seek greener pastures. If Gottfried doesn’t start showing he can win championships and / or develop 3 and 4 star guys a little better, he will continue to miss out on the Bam’s, Camille’s and Devonte’s of the world and the Martin’s, Washington’s et al will continue to depart.

    The task is almost impossible, but he is getting paid good money to do it and since he has been here 5 different schools have win the ACC championship.

    Getting Hicks is a good start, but we need Abu back, and we need the Turk. Even if we get these guys, we need to become better defensively. As long as Gott is here and has decent talent, we will have a puncher’s chance against almost anybody. But it needs to be sustained to cut down some nets.

    05/14/2016 at 12:09 PM #103354
    StateRed44
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    They don’t want the extra bennies KU,UNC, and Kentucky give? How naive.

    05/14/2016 at 12:44 PM #103356
    choppack1
    Participant

    State44 – given Yow’s and our adminstration’s tepid response to the going ons in Chapel Hill my only logical conclusion is that we don’t have firm ground to stand on ourselves in that regard. Also, all things being equal – given their post season success vs. Ours, they will choose the schools you just mentioned.

    05/15/2016 at 6:19 PM #103398
    StateRed44
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    What we have is selective enforcement of the rules. We may have transgressions that could cost Yow her position or be embarrassing, who knows. She is gonna act in her best interest, I would’t expect her to open her mouth. We cannot however be anywhere near the level of the blue bloods considering the fact that we were dinged before and had the program dismantled at the same time everyone else was ramping up with ESPN and more money into the system. We as an institution have nothing to lose, but the institution is run by individuals that do, hence she keeps her trap shut. It would behoove NC State greatly if the whole thing was nuked and everyone started over from scratch playing by the same rules and enforcement. But this is not a perfect world.

    05/15/2016 at 7:28 PM #103405
    Wulfpack
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    No, not a perfect world. Like it or not, Yow’s an insider. Yes, she bleeds red and has our best interests at heart. She’s done a tremendous job bringing stability to the department and building the non-revs up. We are still what we are in the big two, but that’s an uphill battle for anyone in the chair. But, she won’t poke the fraudulent Carolina bear, and has hitched us to this sham of a league for good, at least on her watch. Throw in the near idiotic comments about the search prior to the hiring of Gott, and, yea I’m a bit lukeworm on her. She ain’t the best and surely ain’t the worst, either.

    05/15/2016 at 9:41 PM #103412
    MrPlywood
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    Five-star C Omer Yurtseven scores 91 points in U-18 game

    Kid could come in handy.

    05/16/2016 at 9:48 AM #103417
    ryebread
    Participant

    Good pickup in Hicks. I think the prize (and the ability to make any real noise this year) is with Yurt. Hope we finish the late recruiting season strong.

    05/16/2016 at 9:52 AM #103418
    Rick
    Keymaster

    I haven’t seen him play but 91 points? Wow
    That would be a good pickup. Gott knows how to scramble so maybe he pulls him in.

    05/16/2016 at 11:58 AM #103425
    Texpack
    Participant

    Yurt So Good

    Seven Footer Signs with State. No celebration until he clears eligibility screening.

    05/16/2016 at 12:07 PM #103428
    choppack1
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    Great news!! Now, on to the clearing house.

    We can say what we want about his coaching and recruiting philosophy, but if Yurtsven plays for the Pack this year, it will be the 2 most impressive signees (Smith and Yurt7) that I can recall.

    05/16/2016 at 12:10 PM #103430
    nav
    Participant

    Wow, another year, another late rabbit out of the hat for Gott and Co. Makes you wonder when the late in the recruiting process luck will run out.

    05/16/2016 at 12:11 PM #103431
    Rick
    Keymaster

    That is really good news. Now losing Abu does not hurt too much. Gott is a master at scrambling.

    05/16/2016 at 12:15 PM #103433
    redisgood
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    Fantastic news! Two projected lottery picks.When we lost Bam, I thought there would be no way to overcome that. Keeping my fingers crossed on his eligibility.

    This also tells me that Abu is probably gone.

    05/16/2016 at 12:20 PM #103436
    Texpack
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    If Abu comes back, this could be a really good team. It may take awhile for them to mesh with two freshmen and two transfers, but hopefully Dorn and Henderson have played together in practice long enough to have decent chemistry already.

    05/16/2016 at 12:21 PM #103437
    Rick
    Keymaster
    redisgood wrote:

    Fantastic news! Two projected lottery picks.When we lost Bam, I thought there would be no way to overcome that. Keeping my fingers crossed on his eligibility.

    This also tells me that Abu is probably gone.

    I cannot imagine they will not give him eligibility. And yeah I imagine immediate playing time was a good selling point to the 7.

    05/16/2016 at 12:22 PM #103438
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Surprised doesn’t even begin to describe it. But I said we have no options but to recruit ourselves out of this mess…and we might have freaking done so! 😀

    05/16/2016 at 12:35 PM #103439
    redisgood
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    I cannot imagine they will not give him eligibility. And yeah I imagine immediate playing time was a good selling point to the 7.

    [/quote]

    I don’t know how much credibility there is to the story, but I read his pro coach was upset about him leaving, and has claimed Omer was getting paid. Another story is the team opened up a bank account for him and put money in it, but Yurtseven never owned it or touched the money.

    Whatever has gone on, I will breathe easier when he’s cleared.

    05/16/2016 at 12:38 PM #103440
    redisgood
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    The Pack are also doing a pre-season international trip like when they went to Spain in Warren’s freshman year. This will be a terrific opportunity for all the new pieces to get some work in together.

    05/16/2016 at 12:43 PM #103441
    wolfpack92owen
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    redisgood wrote:

    I cannot imagine they will not give him eligibility. And yeah I imagine immediate playing time was a good selling point to the 7.

    I don’t know how much credibility there is to the story, but I read his pro coach was upset about him leaving, and has claimed Omer was getting paid. Another story is the team opened up a bank account for him and put money in it, but Yurtseven never owned it or touched the money.

    Whatever has gone on, I will breathe easier when he’s cleared.

    [/quote]should be an easy thing to clear up then

    05/16/2016 at 12:43 PM #103442
    wolfpack92owen
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    redisgood wrote:

    The Pack are also doing a pre-season international trip like when they went to Spain in Warren’s freshman year. This will be a terrific opportunity for all the new pieces to get some work in together.

    True but I dont think DSJ is going

    05/16/2016 at 12:55 PM #103443
    Gowolves
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    nav wrote:

    Wow, another year, another late rabbit out of the hat for Gott and Co. Makes you wonder when the late in the recruiting process luck will run out.

    I hope you have s few sleepless nights wondering about this. When you find the answer please let us know.

    05/16/2016 at 1:06 PM #103444
    ryebread
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    Good verbal! Let’s get him signed and through the Clearing House. We’ll not really know who we have on the roster until the basketballs roll out this fall.

    I don’t think this has anything to do with Abu going one way or another. I think it has more to do with what the Celtics (or other NBA teams) tell him. He wants to hear he is NBA ready and will be drafted. The question really is whether he gets enough warm fuzzies to keep his name in the draft.

    05/16/2016 at 1:17 PM #103446
    JeremyH
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    If I am Abu I want to stay and be part of the run the team (with him) is capable of making. He could go from “not invited to combine” to Lottery status.

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