Gottfried tabs Pierre as new assistant coach

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h/t collegechalktalk.prestosports.com

Today Mark Gottfried officially introduced Butch Pierre as his new assistant coach. Pierre previously was on Travis Ford’s staff at Oklahoma State.

“I’ve known Butch for a long time and he’s regarded as one of college basketball’s premier recruiters, but he is also a great teacher of the game who has spent a number of years around winning programs,” said Gottfried. “He brings a wealth of experience in many areas that will help us tremendously, and I’m excited to have him join our program.”

Welcome to Wolfpack Nation, Butch!

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  • 04/13/2016 at 2:29 PM #102558
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    Something doesn’t add up. No thanks to Lutz as AD.

    04/13/2016 at 2:32 PM #102559
    wolfpack92owen
    Participant
    Wufpacker wrote:

    I have absolutely no reason/sources to think this, but it occurred to me today…

    Possible that Lutz is being “placed” in this position to eventually “grow into” the AD chair in a few years? If the man wanted to coach, he could at some level I’d think. If he doesn’t, I can’t imagine a long term “double secret probation” assistant to the assistant of the assistant gig is gonna satisfy him professionally in the long term.

    I suppose time will tell. He might very well make a helluva AD, though…once he learns the ropes.

    That truly would be the NC State way. Godalmighty

    04/13/2016 at 2:33 PM #102560
    wolfpack92owen
    Participant
    packbackr04 wrote:

    Dooley staying put. This is an absolute train wreck in slow motion folks. Hope everyone enjoys carnage. cue the local media about how we ran off Lutz

    NC state athletics is a 3 ring circus from top to bottom.

    04/13/2016 at 2:35 PM #102561
    Rick
    Keymaster

    The only thing about moving Lutz to the Assistant to the assistant deputy southeast region assistant athletic director is if we had a coach ready to take his place. I wonder if Dooley gave us the Heisman.

    04/13/2016 at 2:54 PM #102562
    Wufpacker
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    While my earlier post was admittedly a hypothetical created in my own so-called mind, I’m curious to hear why those who would not want him as an AD feel that way. I have no idea if he’d be good at it or not, thus I don’t have a strong opinion one way or another.

    04/13/2016 at 2:55 PM #102563
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Sounds to me like Dooley played us to get a raise. Total circus, indeed.

    04/13/2016 at 2:56 PM #102564
    Wufpacker
    Participant
    Rick wrote:

    The only thing about moving Lutz to the Assistant to the assistant deputy southeast region assistant athletic director is if we had a coach ready to take his place. I wonder if Dooley gave us the Heisman.

    I think Lutz was changing offices regardless. The timing of the news breaking about Dooley being a possible and Lutz to GT/staying put, was probably just coincidence.

    04/13/2016 at 2:59 PM #102565
    Wufpacker
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    BJD95 wrote:

    Sounds to me like Dooley played us to get a raise. Total circus, indeed.

    Agreed.
    We got Calipari’d….AGAIN!!!!
    (how many is that now?)

    04/13/2016 at 3:01 PM #102566
    wolfpack92owen
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    Wufpacker wrote:

    While my earlier post was admittedly a hypothetical created in my own so-called mind, I’m curious to hear why those who would not want him as an AD feel that way. I have no idea if he’d be good at it or not, thus I don’t have a strong opinion one way or another.

    I will flip this around. Why do you think he would be a good AD? His entire career has centered around coaching basketball not learning the nuances of becoming an AD. I doubt its a position that you can learn in a couple of years especially in a p-5 conference. But that just reeks of something NCSU would probably do. Let him have the job because he is a “good guy”.

    04/13/2016 at 3:02 PM #102567
    wolfpack92owen
    Participant

    ^Plus he would be in his 60’s if he got the job in your scenario

    04/13/2016 at 3:03 PM #102568
    pakfanistan
    Participant

    You guys get the vapors over the littlest nothing.

    Oh Noes!

    04/13/2016 at 3:16 PM #102569
    TheCOWDOG
    Moderator

    Paki…I done warned those kids not to bite on that stuff, yesterday morning. Now they all dizzy in a tizzy.

    BTW. Who has confirmed that Dooley is staying? Hmmm?

    04/13/2016 at 3:18 PM #102570
    Wufpacker
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    wolfpack92owen wrote:
    Wufpacker wrote:

    While my earlier post was admittedly a hypothetical created in my own so-called mind, I’m curious to hear why those who would not want him as an AD feel that way. I have no idea if he’d be good at it or not, thus I don’t have a strong opinion one way or another.

    I will flip this around. Why do you think he would be a good AD? His entire career has centered around coaching basketball not learning the nuances of becoming an AD. I doubt its a position that you can learn in a couple of years especially in a p-5 conference. But that just reeks of something NCSU would probably do. Let him have the job because he is a “good guy”.

    I believe what I said was I don’t have a strong opinion either way, but that he might actually be able to be a helluva AD. Good job though with the lack of input in your typey typey.

    Enjoy your sky, Chicken Little.

    04/13/2016 at 3:37 PM #102571
    PackerInRussia
    Participant

    ^^^Nice clip of the Duke flopping drill.

    04/13/2016 at 3:40 PM #102572
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    It is one thing to play high stakes poker over John Calipari and go bust. It is quite another to do so over Joe F-cking Dooley.

    04/13/2016 at 3:45 PM #102573
    StateRed44
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    LOL, little too much pearl clutching for a dang assistant coach. It’s not that big a deal. Big picture is getting someone who will recruit. If Lutz won’t do it he had to go.

    04/13/2016 at 5:30 PM #102575
    ryebread
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    Ehh, let’s see who we end up hiring. It might be Dooley. It might be someone else. I heard other names were in play as well when we hired Pierre.

    One thing that’s struck me as odd about this Dooley thing is why someone would seemingly take a step back from being a head coach to an assistant voluntarily? It would have to be that they’re getting out ahead of the lynch mob, or that they really didn’t want to be a head coach or there would have to be a huge discrepancy in pay. The latter would almost be great ammo in negotiations with the current employer (i.e. I can make double as an assistant to what you’re paying me as a head man).

    04/13/2016 at 6:56 PM #102576
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    While my earlier post was admittedly a hypothetical created in my own so-called mind, I’m curious to hear why those who would not want him as an AD feel that way.

    1. We don’t need anyone in that role that requires on the job training.

    2. I would prefer for the new AD not to have any connections to the status quo in Raleigh, as a fresh look will be needed.

    04/13/2016 at 8:20 PM #102579
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    ^ Interesting. So, it’s not necessarily about any specific traits he has/does not have other than a lack of experience? Which is not to say that a lack of experience is a good thing thing of course. But other coaches have successfully stepped into the AD role at various schools and done pretty good jobs. Some would argue that JTV did a good job. Dick Sheridan sure as hell liked him in that role.

    Monteith….not so much.

    04/13/2016 at 8:21 PM #102580
    pakfanistan
    Participant

    I was very freakin’ confused for a minute.

    04/13/2016 at 8:55 PM #102581
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    Interesting. So, it’s not necessarily about any specific traits he has/does not have other than a lack of experience?

    Correct. As a native Charlottean, I find
    Lutz to be an extremely likeable person. But that does not mean I want him running the show. Maybe he’d be great, who knows. But it is a risk and certainly we are capable of hiring someone more qualified that has proven results. And the whole Sidney Lowe debacle definitely soured my taste for inside jobs. Find the best guy (or gal), period.

    04/13/2016 at 9:55 PM #102582
    TheCOWDOG
    Moderator

    Serious question. Anyone ever grew up with an AD, or close enough to know what a competent AD might look like?

    I mean experienced it with a good take? Without supposition?

    04/13/2016 at 10:03 PM #102583
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    I suspect that Todd Turner’s childhood friends didn’t much care for him. But granted, that’s a bad example.

    04/13/2016 at 10:32 PM #102584
    redisgood
    Participant
    TheCOWDOG wrote:

    Serious question. Anyone ever grew up with an AD, or close enough to know what a competent AD might look like?

    Our previous AD was my neighbor so I know what doesn’t.

    04/14/2016 at 5:38 AM #102585
    Wulfpack
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    I don’t think you have to had grown up with an AD to know what qualities might make a good one. Yes, been around a few.

    They must be able set a vision and establish measurable goals for the whole department. Not all programs are the same – must be able to spot issues and offer solutions.

    They must be a keen and objective evaluator – you don’t keep folks around just because you like them. Results matter. And when it is time to make a change, you make it and bring in the best.

    They must have very strong financial management skills. Your managing a lot of money and facilities too, not just people.

    And they must be a marketer/fundraiser. You’re constantly selling the NCSU brand, and trying to keep/get people to be energized about athletics.

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