State Improves NCAAT Resume

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As of this morning, State (17-11) should be squarely in the NCAAT field as a 10-seed. With last night’s win, State’s RPI is 38, SOS is 2 and they are 3-4 vs. Top 25 and 3-5 vs. Top 26-50, with wins over Duke (RPI 4), at Carolina (RPI 17) and at Louisville (RPI 18).

ESPN

Consider this: State’s win in Chapel Hill may actually help the Heels, because now Carolina’s win in Raleigh puts State on their (very weak) quality wins list.

Next up, another must-win: Boston College (Saturday, noon).

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  • 02/26/2015 at 2:41 AM #76072
    Gene
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    Yes, Thursday is the new Friday.

    For all intents and purposes, we’ve basically co-opted the Big East Tournament format, moved it to Greensboro and sprinkled in some ACC schools.

    02/26/2015 at 9:30 AM #76079
    packalum44
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    How many more wins until we have a better RPI (and program) than Butler and Dayton?

    02/26/2015 at 9:44 AM #76080
    Heelh8r
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    packalum44 wrote:

    better RPI (and program) than Butler and Dayton?

    Great question. Doing some quick research:
    Dayton-1 appearance in last 3 years – 15 times in ncaa tournament – 1 final four
    Butler-1 appearance in last 3 years – 12 times in ncaa tournament – 2 final fours
    NC State – 3 appearances last 3 years – 25 times in ncaa tournament – 3 final fours – 2 National Championships

    Who would you say has the better program?

    02/26/2015 at 10:00 AM #76081
    JeremyH
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    Finishing top 4 would be great. And particularly it would be good to avoid the scenario where we have a deep run in the ACC tournament (that requires a high game count) coupled with an immediate “Last Four In” game; I think that was a factor in our elimination game last year.

    02/26/2015 at 12:01 PM #76087
    Texpack
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    Three out of four in last night’s RPI helper games resulted in our RPI going from 38 to 40.

    02/26/2015 at 12:51 PM #76089
    lawful
    Participant

    Is the one on ESPN not the same? They say RPI 35.

    02/26/2015 at 12:57 PM #76090
    VaWolf82
    Keymaster
    Texpack wrote:

    Three out of four in last night’s RPI helper games resulted in our RPI going from 38 to 40.

    Nitpick alert: The RPI RANKING went from 38 to 40.

    I think that the problem with Palm’s “Reader” is that it also needs to include the teams ranked just ahead and just behind you as well. You want that group to lose.

    Another way to think of it is that State’s win on Tuesday could easily have moved them past teams that haven’t had their mid-week game yet. So when you jump something like 15 spots, it’s not hard to imagine that if some of those teams win on Wed-Fri, then they could jump back ahead of State.

    I try to get the RPI rankings on Fri and Mon for the RPI trending graphs to minimize that effect.

    Is the one on ESPN not the same? They say RPI 35.

    There are frequently small differences between the various RPI calcs. I guess you get what you pay for.

    02/26/2015 at 1:24 PM #76091
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    As long as we’re in the 20s with these guys, I’m not sweating the small stuff. FWIW, the bubble usually bursts in the mid 40s, dependent upon what happens in conf tourneys. Also, before anyone has a conniption about our #25 RPI shown here, they use the old RPI formula…but it doesn’t/hasn’t ever affected their accuracy.

    Just win baby (2 out of 3 and we won’t have to sweat the ACCT prayers).

    http://www.unf.edu/~jcoleman/dance.htm

    02/26/2015 at 3:07 PM #76105
    choppack1
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    I would say this…if you’re new RPI, old RPI, sagarin and ken pom are all under 40, you are good to go. I think we need to win 3 of our last 4 to do that. Beating BC makes that much more likely.

    02/26/2015 at 3:16 PM #76107
    Texpack
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    VaWolf82 wrote:

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Texpack wrote:</div>
    Three out of four in last night’s RPI helper games resulted in our RPI going from 38 to 40.

    Nitpick alert: The RPI RANKING went from 38 to 40.

    I think that the problem with Palm’s “Reader” is that it also needs to include the teams ranked just ahead and just behind you as well. You want that group to lose.

    Another way to think of it is that State’s win on Tuesday could easily have moved them past teams that haven’t had their mid-week game yet. So when you jump something like 15 spots, it’s not hard to imagine that if some of those teams win on Wed-Fri, then they could jump back ahead of State.

    I try to get the RPI rankings on Fri and Mon for the RPI trending graphs to minimize that effect.

    Is the one on ESPN not the same? They say RPI 35.

    There are frequently small differences between the various RPI calcs. I guess you get what you pay for.

    I was hoping for this kind of response. I knew I would get it because I actually pulled for Richmond last night. You can tell that even the fan base is focused.

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