7 Suspended against Louisville

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Dave Doeren has suspended seven players for the Louisville game Saturday, as discipline for their participation in the (apparently) increasingly popular game of BB guns sweeping college football recently.

Suspended are two starters (Alston, Fernandez) and five others (Justin Jones, Josh Jones, McKever, Ramos and Stevens).

NC State’s depth chart for the Louisville game has been edited to remove the suspended players and now looks like this As if we didn’t already have enough issues with depth at linebacker we go and lose Jerod Fernandez and replace him with Airius Moore as the starter and Bradley Chubb as back-up. Elsewhere, Joe Thuney is back and has been added as the starter at left guard while Tony Adams and Alex Barr are listed as co-starters at right guard. Monty Nelson is also back replacing Kenton Gibbs as the backup to ever improving BJ Hill.

The good news for State is that Louisville has been getting torched for 15 points per game in their five ACC games. That’s only a touchdown plus two-point conversion more than State has averaged in its past two games.

WRAL:

NC State suspended seven football players for the Wolfpack’s game at Louisville Saturday following a game with BB guns at their off-campus residence last week, head coach Dave Doeren announced Monday.

Sophomore wide receiver Johnathan Alston, redshirt freshman linebacker Jerod Fernandez, freshman defensive tackle Justin Jones, redshirt freshman safety Josh Jones, redshirt freshman defensive end Pharoah McKever, sophomore wide receiver Jumichael Ramos and freshman corner Mike Stevens will sit out Saturday.

“These are good young men who made a mistake in not recognizing that this activity could’ve resulted in someone being injured,” Doeren said. “We’ve discussed this with them and they understand they’re being held responsible for their actions.”

Additionally, redshirt student-athletes Tyler Jones, Kalen McCain, Deyshawn Middleton, Terronne Prescod and Maurice Trowell have been placed on team probation.

“Our players admitted their mistake and we’ll help them learn from it,” Doeren said.

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  • 10/14/2014 at 11:15 AM #58975
    fullmoon1
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    I wonder if it was an actual BB gun or an airsoft gun. Airsoft guns are hot right now and many people refer to them as “bb” guns. They shoot a small plastic pellet and look amazingly real and come in fully automatic and semi automatic. Either way at least it wasn’t a real gun like unc stars.

    10/17/2014 at 10:45 AM #59058
    infinity_hearts
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    The thing is, it was off campus.. Why is it such a big deal..? Its not like those tar heels haven’t done it. They probably just hid it like that scandal going on.

    10/17/2014 at 11:57 AM #59063
    Greywolf
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    VaWolf82 wrote:

    But in the bigger picture, I agree that you need an attacking defense. Whether or not you can successfully attack with our current personnel is a completely different issue.

    Some of us don’t seem to grasp this simple truth. Repeating myself I know but if you have big, fast, aggressive defensemen capable of attacking an offense, it doesn’t much matter what scheme you run. If you don’t have those defensemen, it also doesn’t much matter what scheme you run.

    For all we know Hux may be the best there is at getting the most out of semi-athletic, quasi-fast defensemen who are poor tacklers. Most humans like to have somebody to blame for our failures. Hux fills that role as well as any coach we could hire with the present group.

    11/29/2014 at 11:07 AM #58984
    Daniel_Simpson_Day
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    If I had to choose, I’d rather my college coach be more of a disciplinarian than too lenient. I think the BB gun antics are rather pedestrian, although the actions clearly show a level of immaturity. The real lesson to be taught is how easily these BB guns can be mistaken for actual guns and therein lies the real danger.

    For reference, when I was a kid in high school and college, I helped my father train bird dogs. For this I had one of my Dad’s old “starter” pistol that fired only blanks, no red cap on the end of the barrel to indicate it was not a real gun. Because I was an idiot teenager I kept the thing in my glove box. One night I got pulled by a state trooper in town because of a busted tail light. When I opened the glove box to get my registration the starter pistol dropped out. The trooper was busy running my license on the radio so he didn’t even notice the thing and I quickly tossed it to the back of the glove box, but had he seen it things could have gotten really uncomfortable.

    11/29/2014 at 11:07 AM #58986
    Daniel_Simpson_Day
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    If I had to choose, I’d rather my college coach be more of a disciplinarian than too lenient. I think the BB gun antics are rather pedestrian, although the actions clearly show a level of immaturity. The real lesson to be taught is how easily these BB guns can be mistaken for actual guns and therein lies the real danger.
    For reference, when I was a kid in high school and college, I helped my father train bird dogs. For this I had one of my Dad’s old “starter” pistol that fired only blanks, no red cap on the end of the barrel to indicate it was not a real gun. Because I was an idiot teenager I kept the thing in my glove box. One night I got pulled by a state trooper in town because of a busted tail light. When I opened the glove box to get my registration the starter pistol dropped out. The trooper was busy running my license on the radio so he didn’t even notice the thing and I quickly tossed it to the back of the glove box, but had he seen it things could have gotten really uncomfortable.

    11/29/2014 at 11:07 AM #58988
    Daniel_Simpson_Day
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    If I had to choose, I’d rather my college coach be more of a disciplinarian than too lenient. I think the BB gun antics are rather pedestrian, although the actions clearly show a level of immaturity. The real lesson to be taught is how easily these BB guns can be mistaken for actual guns and therein lies the real danger.
    For reference, when I was a kid in high school and college, I helped my father train bird dogs. For this I had one of my Dad’s old “starter” pistol that fired only blanks, no red cap on the end of the barrel to indicate it was not a real gun. Because I was an idiot teenager I kept the thing in my glove box. One night I got pulled by a state trooper in town because of a busted tail light. When I opened the glove box to get my registration the starter pistol dropped out. The trooper was busy running my license on the radio so he didn’t even notice the thing and I quickly tossed it to the back of the glove box, but had he seen it things could have gotten really uncomfortable.

    11/29/2014 at 11:07 AM #59062
    ncsu1987
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    VaWolf82 said:

    But in the bigger picture, I agree that you need an attacking defense. Whether or not you can successfully attack with our current personnel is a completely different issue.

    Agree completely with this. The bolded part is the key. I don’t know enough about Huxtable to know, but I’d like to: in previous jobs, when he had the personnel, was he aggressive, attacking? That’s what I want to see. But for all I know, Hux would love to do that too, he just knows the personnel better and believes it would be a disaster.

    AlphaWolf said:

    They are guilty of being immature and irresponsible. Nothing more, and nothing less.

    This is all that needs to be said. Compared to what is making headlines at other schools, this is banal stuff. I appreciate that Coach D took action, and I believe the punishment fits the crime. Count me among the population VERY, VERY grateful that I was a dumba$$ teen before the age of smart phones.

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