#Gameday: Pack in Black

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It is GAMEDAY, but it doesn’t feel like it this afternoon. Every game in which I seem to have any real interest is not actually scheduled until tonight — which, of course means that those games will generally overlap with where I will physically be present in Carter-Finley.

 

In addition to what hopes to be a fun day and night in and around Carter-Finley…it is also a HUGE night/weekend for NC State recruiting. Emmanuel McGirt and Nyheim Hines are expected to be in Raleigh along with 12 to 15 high schoolers from the class of 2015 and another 25+ potential targets from the 2016 class. The two supposedly want to play together and we were able to get McGirt through his visit to Athens, Georgia last weekend without committing. As you can see below, it looks like Hines had a pretty decent night last night…

 

Speaking of football recruiting…look who spent some time hanging out last night?

 

Heading into today, I REALLY liked the Vegas action of NC State minus 16/16.5 points. That is, I really liked until I saw the following:

I’m sorry…I think I still like the Pack to cover tonight!

 

 

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  • 09/06/2014 at 8:49 PM #55658
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    The fact that Doeren hasn’t made chicken salad out of INHERITED chicken shit does not mean he won’t be able to coach the competitive talent he brings in. They are completely different skill sets, and the correlation factor is low.

    09/06/2014 at 8:50 PM #55659
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    Great point BJD. Market indeed spoke. Charlottesville ain’t such a bad place to kick back and relax though. Joke’s on London.

    09/06/2014 at 8:51 PM #55660
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Remember how bad Mack Brown’s first two teams were? Certainly had no correlation to his program building ability.

    09/06/2014 at 8:52 PM #55661
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    Bucks and Turkeys now tied. Heels up on the Aztecs in Saturday night thriller in Chapel Hill.

    09/06/2014 at 8:53 PM #55662
    pakfanistan
    Participant
    BJD95 wrote:

    Remember how bad Mack Brown’s first two teams were? Certainly had no correlation to his program building ability.

    Kryszhe;lkaski was terrible for three years!

    😉

    09/06/2014 at 8:54 PM #55663
    YogiNC
    Participant

    We may cover the spread … DAMN! LOL.

    Smarter than the average bear

    09/06/2014 at 8:54 PM #55664
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    Cocks up 4 on the Pie-Rats at the half. Boy have they fallen, it appears.

    09/06/2014 at 8:55 PM #55665
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    Sparty giving the Ducks the business, but plenty of time left.

    09/06/2014 at 8:57 PM #55666
    pakfanistan
    Participant

    Good lord, McKever looks gigantic.

    09/06/2014 at 8:58 PM #55667
    TheAliasTroll
    Participant

    Are we comparing Mack Brown to Doofus now? Surely the Mack Brown of nearly 30 years ago wasn’t running his team like a video game!

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    09/06/2014 at 8:58 PM #55668
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Haha, I always hate the K analogy too. But you really can fix hoops with one recruiting class, and talent differential is more predictive in football.

    Even then, I would always give a new hoops coach 3 years, minimum.

    09/06/2014 at 9:01 PM #55669
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    I’m saying plenty of program builders have looked clueless with inherited, shit talent.

    Plenty of converse examples, too. Guys who overachieved early with subpar talent, but who couldn’t build a program.

    Brissett has played a very good game today.

    09/06/2014 at 9:03 PM #55670
    TheAliasTroll
    Participant

    I respect what you are saying BJD, but strictly speaking to probability… Mack Brown is what you would consider a pretty significant outlier. Just like coach K was. How many coaches are going to go 2-20 (or whatever his 1st two year record was) and turn out to be a Mack Brown?

    I’ve seen enough besercko play calling to highly suspect Doofus is in quite a bit over his head. We’ll have obviously have to wait a couple more years to begin the real building. Unless we do indeed have ourselves the next Mack Brown.

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    09/06/2014 at 9:03 PM #55671
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    Petrino certainly looks like he has picked up right where he left off. Probably out drinking at the bar scouting his next coed as we speak.

    09/06/2014 at 9:04 PM #55672
    TheAliasTroll
    Participant

    I’m saying, there is usually some progress at least in the 2nd season with solid rebuilding coaches. It appears we may have somehow actually regressed from the sh!t pile that we were last season.

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    09/06/2014 at 9:06 PM #55673
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    I hear Mack is looking for a place to live. Doeren ought to invite him over to stay for a few weeks. Certainly couldn’t hurt.

    09/06/2014 at 9:07 PM #55674
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    Hey, were going to be 2-0, so the sky isn’t falling, yet. Let’s see if we can win a few more.

    09/06/2014 at 9:08 PM #55675
    pakfanistan
    Participant
    TheAliasTroll wrote:

    I’m saying, there is usually some progress at least in the 2nd season with solid rebuilding coaches. It appears we may have somehow actually regressed from the sh!t pile that we were last season.

    Wat.

    You sure? I’m not sure.

    09/06/2014 at 9:09 PM #55676
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    I wouldn’t say he’s anything like the next mack Brown. Just that we don’t know yet. I do think the sample size is large enough to say there is little correlation between overachieving early and program building.

    You have to do REALLY badly not to get 4 years in football. But of course 0-for-ACC qualifies as really bad. That means he does need to show me something in year 3.

    I am also requiring Doeren to achieve a year ahead of Cutcliffe’s pace at Duke.

    09/06/2014 at 9:10 PM #55677
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    QB play alone is miles better. That ought to be good enough for at least another win or two. Remember, this is the ACC.

    09/06/2014 at 9:10 PM #55678
    TheAliasTroll
    Participant

    Wat.

    You sure? I’m not sure.

    Let me break it down for you. Can you find me another coach that won 1 game in each of his 1st two seasons and went on to be a great coach?

    There might be, but I bet there aren’t many. That’s what a statistical outlier is.

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    09/06/2014 at 9:12 PM #55679
    pakfanistan
    Participant
    TheAliasTroll wrote:

    Wat.

    You sure? I’m not sure.

    Let me break it down for you. Can you find me another coach that won 1 game in each of his 1st two seasons and went on to be a great coach?

    We won 3 last year….I don’t get it.

    And, I’m not saying 3 is great, but still.

    09/06/2014 at 9:13 PM #55680
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    It appears I spoke too fast saying we’d be 2-0. Bahhumbug.

    09/06/2014 at 9:17 PM #55681
    SaccoV
    Participant

    A graphic at the beginning of the game confirms BJD’s point regarding next year being Doeren’s true test. We started the 2nd most freshmen last season. The fact that so many freshmen this year are getting significant playing time tells you that we have a serious talent/depth deficiency. His play-calling is worthy of criticism, but I’m not willing two games into this season to throw in the towel. We have three absolute, dead-on losses coming (FSU, Clemson and UL). Everything else is a toss-up, and a bowl appearance after last season is a sure sign of solid progress.

    Two favorite things in tonight’s game: 1) Angela Mallen’s hot lisp and 2) The ‘Full’ Monte Nelson!!

    09/06/2014 at 9:18 PM #55682
    pakfanistan
    Participant
    SaccoV wrote:

    A graphic at the beginning of the game confirms BJD’s point regarding next year being Doeren’s true test. We started the 2nd most freshmen last season. The fact that so many freshmen this year are getting significant playing time tells you that we have a serious talent/depth deficiency. His play-calling is worthy of criticism, but I’m not willing two games into this season to throw in the towel. We have three absolute, dead-on losses coming (FSU, Clemson and UL). Everything else is a toss-up, and a bowl appearance after last season is a sure sign of solid progress.

    Two favorite things in tonight’s game: 1) Angela Mallen’s hot lisp and 2) The ‘Full’ Monte Nelson!!

    I’m not saying it’s likely, but we had a shot against Clemson last year before the refs screwed us out of a touchdown. We’re better this year than last year.

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